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CheesyMuslim
08-03-2007, 01:34 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But at least Obama knows that we have to fight Islamic forces.
2. And I agree with him on this one issue.
3. Son of a Bitch wants to nuke freaking Islam in, Pak, and Afag.
4. I say good for him!
5. Read this action:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3441342&page=1

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Presidential Race Goes Nuclear
Clinton Implies Obama's Comments Were Careless
Sens. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., sparred over foreign policy as the former first lady implied that the first term senator's comments on the use of nuclear weapons were careless and unpresidential. (AP) By JAKE TAPPER
Aug. 2, 2007
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Share The leading Democratic candidates for president sparred with each other over the issue of nuclear weapons Thursday and the result was pure heat.

In another broadside indicating the increasingly heated race for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., implied Thursday that comments made by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., were careless and unpresidential.

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Sen. Clinton was referring to Obama's statement earlier in the day that he had ruled out using nuclear weapons against al Qaeda targets in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Clinton also suggested Obama's high-profile speech earlier in the week in which he said would be willing to invade Pakistan to attack high-profile al Qaeda targets, given actionable intelligence, was inappropriate, further evidence that she is painting her challenger as unprepared for the job of commander in chief.


Democratic Race Goes Nuclear
Regarding terrorist targets in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region, Obama told The Associated Press Thursday: "I think it would be a profound mistake for us to use nuclear weapons in any circumstance." He then added: "Involving civilians."

Seeming to think twice about his response, Obama then said, "Let me scratch that. There's been no discussion of nuclear weapons. That's not on the table."

Clinton, asked about his remarks Thursday afternoon, took issue with them.

"Presidents should be very careful at all times in discussing the use or nonuse of nuclear weapons," Clinton said. "Presidents since the Cold War have used nuclear deterrence to keep the peace. And I don't believe that any president should make any blanket statements with respect to the use or nonuse of nuclear weapons."

On Wednesday, Obama delivered a major anti-terrorism speech in which he essentially threatened the government of Pakistan that as president he would attack al Qaeda targets in the country with or without the permission of President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf will not act, we will," Obama said.


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Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

NortheastCynic
08-03-2007, 01:50 AM
What a left-winger Chess is...

:P

-NC

Jaaaman
08-03-2007, 02:09 AM
Hillary is way ahead in the most recent poll... I don't think Obama has much of a chance against her...

And yes, I would much prefer Obama over Hellary.

ViolaLee
08-03-2007, 05:54 AM
Just when I thought chess got a grip on reality.

But then he told the lie about Obama wanting to nuke people.

Oh well, it was too good to be true.

preservanation
08-03-2007, 06:57 AM
I am rooting for the dem who has the best chance of losing.

ViolaLee
08-03-2007, 07:05 AM
You should be rooting for a republican then.

;)

preservanation
08-03-2007, 04:46 PM
VoilaLee,
you would have to agree that Gravel, lets say, has a slimmer chance to win the General election than, say, Hillary?
Well....
Go Gravel!

Socialism will destroy this nation from within and crumble it's infrastructure to the point of collapse.

ViolaLee
08-03-2007, 04:47 PM
My father wants to vote for Gravel.

LOL!

My father hates the government and Gravel seems to as well.

micfranklin
08-03-2007, 04:51 PM
Hillary is way ahead in the most recent poll... I don't think Obama has much of a chance against her...

And yes, I would much prefer Obama over Hellary.


I can agree that I like him over her. He's new to the game so he has a chance to learn something.

LOL@Hellary.

NortheastCynic
08-03-2007, 04:53 PM
Gravel scares me.

Particuarly with his "National Initiative for Democracy".

http://www.gravel2008.us/national_initiative

-NC

CheesyMuslim
08-03-2007, 10:34 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But there is more efforts coming forth to deter Islamic attacks on America.
2. Tom Tancredo, said some very interesting things.
3. He said:

"Tancredo told about 30 people at a town hall meeting in Osceola, Iowa, on Tuesday that he believes that a nuclear terrorist attack on the U.S. could be imminent and that the U.S. needs to hurry up and think of a way to stop it.

"If it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy sites in Mecca and Medina. Because that's the only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what they otherwise might do," he said. "

4. I think we should already have a constitutional law put in place if we are ever attacked by a nuclear device from Islam.
5. Make it public, and let them know just what we shall take out afterwards.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

ViolaLee
08-03-2007, 10:45 PM
I'm sure they already know we'd flatten them if they nuked us.

It's obvious to me what our retaliation would be.

My issue is - we shouldn't be the first strikers.

We have a DEFENSE department.

Not an offense department. Not a genocidal maniac nuke department.

If we have evidence that our enemy has nukes, we should bomb their nukes. Not nuke their civilians.

micfranklin
08-04-2007, 12:47 AM
Gravel scares me.

Particuarly with his "National Initiative for Democracy".

http://www.gravel2008.us/national_initiative

-NC


Eh, Gravel gives me the illusion that he's not on his meds but I do think he is one of the smarter candidates.

CheesyMuslim
08-04-2007, 11:44 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But this topic is about Barack (Hussien) Obama, and Hillery.
2. Please refrain from topic changing.
3. Gravel may be a worthy topic of discussion, but make another thread folks.
4. If we have to have a Democratic President, I want (Obama),(The Mad Muslim) this guys got balls!
5. As long as he's willing to defend this Nation!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

preservanation
08-05-2007, 12:41 AM
My father wants to vote for Gravel.

LOL!

My father hates the government and Gravel seems to as well.

Gravel certainly livens up the debate. Most dems want him to go away.
He is the dem version of Paul.