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07-20-2007, 02:23 PM
White House preparing to stage new September 11 - Reagan official
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20/ 07/ 2007
WASHINGTON, July 20 (RIA Novosti) - A former Reagan official has issued a public warning that the Bush administration is preparing to orchestrate a staged terrorist attack in the United States, transform the country into a dictatorship and launch a war with Iran within a year.
Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, blasted Thursday a new Executive Order, released July 17, allowing the White House to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies and giving the government expanded police powers to exercise control in the country.
Roberts, who spoke on the Thom Hartmann radio program, said: "When Bush exercises this authority [under the new Executive Order], there's no check to it. So it really is a form of total, absolute, one-man rule."
"The American people don't really understand the danger that they face," Roberts said, adding that the so-called neoconservatives intended to use a renewal of the fight against terrorism to rally the American people around the fading Republican Party.
Old-line Republicans like Roberts have become increasingly disenchanted with the neoconservative politics of the Bush administration, which they see as a betrayal of fundamental conservative values.
According to a July 9-11 survey by Ipsos, an international public opinion research company, President Bush and the Republicans can claim a mere 31 percent approval rating for their handling of the Iraq war and 38 percent for their foreign policy in general, including terrorism.
"The administration figures themselves and prominent Republican propagandists ... are preparing us for another 9/11 event or series of events," he said. "You have to count on the fact that if al Qaeda is not going to do it, it is going to be orchestrated."
Roberts suggested that in the absence of a massive popular outcry, only the federal bureaucracy and perhaps the military could put constraints on Bush's current drive for a fully-fledged dictatorship.
"They may have had enough. They may not go along with it," he said.
The radio interview was a follow-up to Robert's latest column, in which he warned that "unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the U.S. could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran."
Roberts, who has been dubbed the "Father of Reaganomics" and has recently gained popularity for his strong opposition to the Bush administration and the Iraq War, regularly contributes articles to Creators Syndicate, an independent distributor of comic strips and syndicated columns for daily newspapers.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20070720/69340886.html
ViolaLee
07-20-2007, 04:10 PM
Didn't Ron Paul say that recently too?
The Bush Admin are some scary crime loving bunch, that's for sure.
I'm not all that sure this rumor is true, especially given the source for the article is a Russian newspaper. . .
jafar00
07-20-2007, 07:57 PM
What's the difference between a Russian and a US based news source? Can you say Paul Craig Roberts didn't suggest this?
It's no secret that governments stage false flag events to give them the power to do as they please. Germany had the Reichstag fire, the US had The Gulf of Tonkin incident to go into Vietnam and fight the communists (The terrorists of the time). Some say Pearl Harbour was a false flag or at least allowed to happen to bring the US into WWII. The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was a failed false flag operation, clumsily covered up as an accident when the sordid details were leaked. 9/11 was also another false flag.
What will the next one be to allow Emperor Bush to take control as supreme dictator?
AlonzoMourning23
07-20-2007, 08:23 PM
It amazes me how easily otherwise sensible people buy into this conspiracy crap.
If any one of these "The government attacked us and blamed al qaeda" conspiracies ever has proof then I'll eat my computer.
Mayberry
07-21-2007, 12:25 AM
Jesus H Christ, you'll believe anything, won't you? This is beyond ridiculous. :rolleyes:
Labrocca
07-21-2007, 12:34 AM
Haha...Russian website..haha...omg.
December you have reached a new low sir. Great job.
Skeletor Chertoff has been gazing into his crystal ball again....Dirty Bombs in LA and San Francisco!!! (http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/07/chertoff-predicts-simultaneous-lasan.html)
Also, The Constitution of the USA has been shat upon...again, by none other than our Nazi Occupier in chief ...
http://www.rense.com/general77/asset.htm
Bush Outlaws War Protest -
Citizens Face Full Asset Seizure
From Dave Livingston
7-20-7
WELL IT HAS HAPPENED. THIS MANIACAL SON OF A BITCH HAS OUTLAWED ALL WAR PROTEST AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
PASSED INTO LAW JULY 17TH. SINCE CONGRESS IS TOO WEAK-KNEED TO STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING, PERHAPS IT WILL BE LEFT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WILL THIS BEGIN THE CIVIL WAR HERE IN THE UNITED STATES PREDICTED BY JOHN TITOR? READ THE ARTICLE BELOW, "Bush Outlaws All War Protest In The United States"..........best of luck.........dave livingston
Bush Outlaws All War Protest In United States
By Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
7-19-7
In one of his most chilling moves to date against his own citizens, the American War Leader has issued a sweeping order this week outlawing all forms of protest against the Iraq war.
President Bush enacted into US law an 'Executive Order' on July 17th titled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq", and which says:
"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,
I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004."
According to Russian legal experts, the greatest concern to the American people are the underlying provisions of this new law, and which, they state, are written 'so broadly' as to outlaw all forms of protest against the war. These provisions state:
"(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or
(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.
(c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.
All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken."
To the subsection of this new US law, according to these legal experts, that says "...the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit...", the insertion of the word 'services' has broad, and catastrophic, consequences for the American people in that any act deemed by their government to be against the Iraqi war is, in fact, supporting the 'enemy' and therefore threatens the 'stabilization of Iraq'.
In an even greater affront to the American people are the provisions of a law called The Patriot Act, and that should they run afoul of this new law they are forbidden to allow anyone to know about it, and as we can read as reported by the Seattle Times News Service:
"The [Patriot] act also expands the use of National Security Letters, which are a kind of warrant that the Justice Department writes for itself, authorizing its agents to seize such things as records of money movements, telephone calls and Internet visits. Recipients of a National Security Letter are not allowed to tell anyone about them, and so cannot contest them."
It is interesting to note, too, that this is not the first time that the United States has unleashed the brutal power of their government against its citizens to further their war aims and stifle domestic dissent, as during the European conflict of World War I they enacted a law called The Sedition Act of 1918 and which "...forbade Americans to use "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, flag, or armed forces during war."
It is curious to note that after the enactment of this new law there has been no protest by any of the other political leaders in the United States, with the exception of the only Muslim member of the United States Congress, Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, and who compared President Bush to the Nazi War Leader Adolph Hitler by stating the attacks upon the World Trade Center could be likened to the burning of the Reichstag.
Today, as the United States faces an imminent economic collapse, while at the same time its war bill has reached the staggering amount of $648 billion, one of the last freedoms the American people have had to protest their leaders actions against them, and other peoples in the World, has now been taken away from them, the freedom to speak and write in opposition to what is being done to them.
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.", said the great British writer George Orwell, but, and sadly, liberty has been lost to the once free people of the United States who are no longer allowed to tell their leaders, or each other, what they don't want to hear.
With this being so, the American people should, likewise, contemplate their 'new' future, and as, also, stated best by George Orwell, "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."
Pity if he were to die on the operating table tomorrow...LOL.
BoogyMan
07-21-2007, 05:21 AM
You are kidding, right Dang? Russian legal experts?
Your post would be funny except for the bone chillingly disgusting death wish at the end followed by LOL.
jafar00
07-21-2007, 10:04 AM
It amazes me how easily otherwise sensible people buy into this conspiracy crap.
If any one of these "The government attacked us and blamed al qaeda" conspiracies ever has proof then I'll eat my computer.
You better keep your current PC aside after you upgrade, perhaps soaking in a tenderising marinade? The truth eventually gets leaked concerning these false flag operations just like truth has come out about the Gulf of Tonkin and USS Liberty incidents.
You are kidding, right Dang? Russian legal experts?You and Labrocca picked one small comment out of an over-reaching dictatorial statement..... trying to negate the danger of the the entirety of the EO. This: WH press release (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-4.html)
Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act
Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq
<snip>
My new order takes additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315 by blocking the property and interests in property of persons determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people.A broad interpretation of the underlined part above could criminalize citizens who call for an end to our occupation in a civil war zone of a foreign country... could be deemed "threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government ", (when, in fact it would be the beginning of peace for them; albeit the end to the US attatchment of all that oil).
I am concerned about the language of this EO because of other fascist acts by this admin. The secret letters sent by the government that you arent allowed to show anyone (including an atty) the end of Habeas Corpus,
Paul Craig Roberts was on American radio (Thom Hartmann show... archives are no longer free.. but they are available)this week speaking of these new dictatorial powers. The point here is that Amerikkan newspapers are not reporting this. Half of this country is opposed to this war.... their assets can now be seized if they so much as say; "I wish this war was over"... If you have a bumper sticker from Move-on your car, it may be seized as the kings property.
Chertoff is a Russian legal expert...are you protesting HIM? Your property will be seized this afternoon. Chertoff translates to "of the Devil". Remember that little known fact.... it will become increasingly more obvious.
Your post would be funny except for the bone chillingly disgusting death wish at the end followed by LOL.Nothing funny about it. When bush announced this EO he started with: "By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America".... odd that he would preface wiping his ass with the Constitution AND a colonoscopy with that phrase! It would be poetic justice for a hemmohroid like him, to die with his ass jutting into the heavens. Remember what happens to traitors... bush has priors, too he was a wartime deserter. I would not shed a tear for his demise.
This post does not promote violence... shit and complications happen.
Remember how King Edward II died?
I hope I am wrong about all this. Our country was built on political dissent.
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." (http://www.bartleby.com/73/1641.html)
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Labrocca
07-21-2007, 06:27 PM
property and interests in property
Words are not property. Try to touch them if you don't believe me.
Mayberry
07-21-2007, 06:43 PM
Finkelstein has hatched another conspiracy theory. From Russia With Love. :P
property and interests in property
Words are not property. Try to touch them if you don't believe me.
The EO is stating that property and interests can be seized from those who oppose the war. Nobody said your words can be seized.... but, they CAN silence you with no rhyme or reason. Arrest you with no rights to an atty. and no right to a hearing...indefinitely.
Just because your neighbor reports you as a critic of the war policy.
Mayberry
07-21-2007, 07:14 PM
If you'll buy that, I got a bridge I'll sell ya. It leads to my ocean front property in Arizona. :cool: Let's test your theory: The war in Iraq sucks, it needs to end now, Bush and Cheny are destroying this country, impeach them now, bring our troops home........ Nope. No CIA agents beating down my front door. Maybe I'll donate 10 bucks to Move On.Org with my credit card and see if that works. :rolleyes:
jafar00
07-21-2007, 08:33 PM
This post does not promote violence... shit and complications happen.
Remember how King Edward II died?
I hope I am wrong about all this. Our country was built on political dissent.
I think Americans could learn something from the great French tradition of Revolution and storm the White House before this all goes too far (which it already has imho) and have a good old fashioned king/president hanging.
Labrocca
07-21-2007, 09:27 PM
This post does not promote violence... shit and complications happen.
Remember how King Edward II died?
I hope I am wrong about all this. Our country was built on political dissent.
I think Americans could learn something from the great French tradition of Revolution and storm the White House before this all goes too far (which it already has imho) and have a good old fashioned king/president hanging.
We don't need to do that. We just reelect a new president in 14 months.
Nobody said your words can be seized.... but, they CAN silence you with no rhyme or reason. Arrest you with no rights to an atty. and no right to a hearing...indefinitely.
And exactly where do you get this notion from?
We don't need to do that. We just reelect a new president in 14 months. Or we may have to pry the power from their cold, dead fingers. They can postpone all elections simply by creating a national emergency (Iran strike would bring very real, fatherland insecurity). Dont put it past them.
Nobody said your words can be seized.... but, they CAN silence you with no rhyme or reason. Arrest you with no rights to an atty. and no right to a hearing...indefinitely.
And exactly where do you get this notion from?The Patriot act.
Thats old news, though.
This new EO paves the way for theft of assets. Read section (i) very carefully...
(i) (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:
....you dont really have to do ANYTHING wrong, before they seize everything you own. They dont have to prove a crime was committed... you can be declared an enemy combattant, merely at the word of (and the paranoid suspicions of) the fascist presitard.
This is pre-emptive justification for crimes to come.
Can the class say: "Over-reaching executive"?
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