Is Presidential candidate Ron Paul The Man With The Plan

[qwerty]

Videos,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9GkpwFY5Mw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvrrPCkHKLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8


Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.




http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

[bobbylien]

I was watching an interview with him on C-Span on Sunday. I'm really thinking about voting for him now. Thank god for C-Span, Fox and CNN would have showed a select 10 seconds of the interview. Heres to short attention spans and fear!

[qwerty]

If you are not sure yet, watch this video. It will give you reasons to vote RON!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d_e9lrcZ8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eronpaul2008%2Ecom%2F

[preservanation]

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the Dems.

[NortheastCynic]

That's absolute nonsense, Preseranation...C'mon. How many Dems want to abolish the Dept. of Education? How many Dems support a flat tax? How many Dems are pro-life? How many Dems refer to inflation as "the inflation tax"? Ron Paul is no liberal, he's a libertarian and is the most fiscally conservative candidate on either party's roster. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the Constitution.

-NC

[preservanation]

That's absolute nonsense, Preseranation...C'mon. How many Dems want to abolish the Dept. of Education? How many Dems support a flat tax? How many Dems are pro-life? How many Dems refer to inflation as "the inflation tax"? Ron Paul is no liberal, he's a libertarian and is the most fiscally conservative candidate on either party's roster. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the Constitution.

-NC

I understand.

My point is that it will serve only to syphon votes away from the Republican front runner,( in the General election), thus anointing Hillary to ascend her throne. Or divide the Reps in the primaries.

I have no truck with Paul, per se.

[NortheastCynic]

Ah, I see. In my view, the only thing stopping Ron Paul from winning the Presidency is the Republican Primary. I firmly believe that if he were to win the primary [which isn't going to happen], he would win the Presidency easily. Every libertarian in the country would vote for him [15% of the population according to the latest poll I can find] and college aged voters, who are normally dormant during elections would flock to him...Sadly he has zero chance of winning the primary.

-NC

[preservanation]

I'd like to think you are right, I would vote for any candidate we put up over any one the dems have.

[qwerty]

If you want to talk with Ron Paul supporters, visit

www.ronpaulforum.com

www.ronpaulforums.com

[Mayberry]

I like Ron Paul from what I've seen so far. But he'll never get the nomination. Sad.

[Alonzo]

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the Dems.


Then why would I vote for a republican over him?

[preservanation]

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the Dems.


Then why would I vote for a republican over him?

I give up.
Why?

[micfranklin]

Over the past few days I've noticed some things. On other forums people don't seem to like Paul because they think he's "insane" for wanting to get rid of government and for wanting to eliminate Homeland Security and the IRS.

They also seem to think all his supporters are internet bots.

[qwerty]

Over the past few days I've noticed some things. On other forums people don't seem to like Paul because they think he's "insane" for wanting to get rid of government and for wanting to eliminate Homeland Security and the IRS.

They also seem to think all his supporters are internet bots.


Yes, we are bots. :cool:

Like the 22,725 people on the Ron Paul MeetUp groups,
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/about/

Here´s one example how the RonPaulBots work,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFSCXIffv1s

:cool:

[qedtanya]

Those of you who say "I like Ron Paul but he'll never get the nomination" are part of the problem! If you like Ron Paul then support him! The more supporters he has, the more votes he'll get and the more chance he has of getting the nomination! HE CAN WIN if you help him! Don't just say, "I like him but...." make sure it happens! Prove to yourselves and others that money is not the deciding factor in the elections, the people's votes are! That's what this country is all about or at least it's supposed to be. A Democracy that means we have the right to put into office whomever we want, and we DO have the power to do it! You've just got to make your decision, do you support Ron Paul or are you going to sit on your butt like a slug and let one of the other socialist, lying, CFR members take it away from him???? Huh?? I SUPPORT RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT AND AM DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, HOW ABOUT YOU????????

[preservanation]

I'm holding out for Newt.
No kidding.

[qedtanya]

I'm holding out for Newt.
No kidding.


Another CFR member? No thanks :)

[qednick]

Over the past few days I've noticed some things. On other forums people don't seem to like Paul because they think he's "insane" for wanting to get rid of government and for wanting to eliminate Homeland Security and the IRS.

They also seem to think all his supporters are internet bots.


Yes, we are bots. :cool:

Like the 22,725 people on the Ron Paul MeetUp groups,
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/about/

Here´s one example how the RonPaulBots work,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFSCXIffv1s

:cool:


I'm apparently one of the "bots" too. :cool:

[Mayberry]

Unfortunately, money does run the show, and I don't know if Ron Paul can raise enough. Especially running as a Republican.

[jafar00]

If I could vote, I would vote for him. He's the only one making any sense.

[micfranklin]

Unfortunately, money does run the show, and I don't know if Ron Paul can raise enough. Especially running as a Republican.


Well he's got McCain down for the count...

[qwerty]

I like Ron Paul from what I've seen so far. But he'll never get the nomination. Sad.


Don´t take that attitude, he´s message is spreading SO fast!

:cool:

[Alonzo]

I often wonder about the "Ron Paul can win" people. Most of those I've met who think that either weren't old enough to vote, or didn't care enough to vote in the last election. I'm not talking about supporters, I'm talking about the ones who really believe he might win.

His views simply are not capable of gaining significant mainstream support. They are are far out of the main stream And, besides that, he lacks the party structure of support to do so (even Perot failed miserably if only count winning as a goal).

[ECW]

Too much of what America was built on runs contrary to what Paul espouses. We are the world's most generous nation precisely because we do not follow the kinds of positions that Paul believes. Props to him for not being a sell out to the corporate master but that isn't enough.

[micfranklin]

I don't know how many times this has been said but if the media pays a lot more attention to him like they do the "big candidates," then his chances for winning will go up a bit.

[Dr. Debate]

I liked Ron Paul, slightly, until I fou out about his racist past.

Fred Thompson '08.

[NortheastCynic]

Again, all accusations of Ron Paul's "racist past" that I have seen have been debunked here or elsewhere.

-NC

[Drocket]

Wherein 'debunked' means 'claims he was only pretending to be racist in order to make money.'

[NortheastCynic]

Not so much. Debunked as in, he did not write the racist material nor was he aware of its existence; and he has openly denounced said material as it and all kinds of "isms" [racism, sexism, etc.] run in full contrast to libertarian ideology.

-NC

[Alonzo]

I'm not sure how having personal racist beliefs run in contract to libertarian ideology. As long as you don't create laws that harm people due to those principles, I'm not really sure why racism is against libertarianism.

[NortheastCynic]

Because it divides people into groups as opposed to treating them as individuals, Zo. Individualism is a key characteristic of a libertarian. Racism is, as Dr. Paul said, "the ugliest form of collectivism".

-NC

[Drocket]

Debunked as in, he did not write the racist material nor was he aware of its existence;

He personally paid a man to write it, then published it under his name in a magazine that he personally owned and operated. There's absolutely nobody else he can blame. This is the "I'm not guilty of murder: I was just standing there innocently holding a gun pointed at someone's head and the gun went off all on it's own! I wasn't involved at all!" defense.

[micfranklin]

Well in case anyone is interested I found an article on Ron Paul and his "newsletter:"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul#Newsletter_article_controversy

[NortheastCynic]

Drocket, how many people do you think write letters for Dr. Paul?

One?

No, right; probably slightly more than that.

Do you think that a political candidate knows the content of everything that every one of his employees writes and publishes for him?

No, right; he probably has to trust that they don't write ridiculous and offensive things like what was written.

Paul's staffer acted on his own, Ron Paul did not tell him to write what he wrote and does not stand by what he wrote.

Looking at it in a manner so simplistic as "he paid someone to write for him, that person wrote something racist" is as unfair as it is simplistic.

-NC

[Drocket]

Do you think that a political candidate knows the content of everything that every one of his employees writes and publishes for him?
One little problem with this theory is that Ron Paul was the sole publisher and editor at the time. He started his magazine back when he was a poor nobody as a home business. He saw EVERYTHING that was published because he was the one doing the publishing. This wasn't a magazine published when he was rich and had employees he could fob the blame off onto: there was him doing the publishing, and a couple of people he paid to ghostwrite articles for him.

[qedtanya]

Drocket, I have to say prove it because if you check out every single article on this subject, you'll find that this is not the case.

As many of us have seen, some years ago one of RP's aids, a worker on his news letter penned an article that was overtly racist in nature. Unfortunately, this was attributed to the good doctor. Ron Paul wasn't aware that these words were written because he was out of town at the time and hadn't reviewed the article. It was too late. It went out in circulation and many people of color got rightfully offended. The further we get into this campaign, the more about this unfortunate chain of events we will have to answer to in defense of a good and honest man.

Below is a list of some articles that Ron Paul has written on the matter of racism.

Government and Racism by Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html

What really Divides Us? by Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html

None Of Your Business by Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul192.html

The Consistent Constitutionalist
http://www.lewrockwell.com/raskin/raskin10.html

The Trouble With Forced Integration by Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html

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