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Keramac
06-07-2007, 12:01 AM
Assuming it were a viable option, should pornography be banned? Why or why not?
No. Don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.
Red Dragon
06-07-2007, 01:27 AM
I don't see any reason to ban it, and it just seems like a waste of money to me, so no.
Yushimi
06-07-2007, 03:45 AM
Hey don't go banning porn... what good will that do? XD Its better to sit home and watch porn rather then go out and rape someone, ne? If you don't like it, just stay away from it. *Shrugs*
PatrickHenry
06-07-2007, 04:02 AM
It's kinda funny that prostitution is illegal most places... But if a camera is present, you could be making a legitimate porno movie, heehee.
Why bother to ban it? Stuff like that just creates scofflaws and inordinate profits for those dealing in contraband.
firefox
06-07-2007, 05:44 AM
Sounds good. Relegalize prostitution and keep pr0n legal.
Yushimi
06-07-2007, 05:55 AM
Sounds good. Relegalize prostitution and keep pr0n legal.
Believe it or not, some people have to sell themselves to survive.
Remember what times were like with The Scottsboro Trials. Ruby Bates and Victoria Price HAD to sell themselves and be prostitutes to live.
underdawg
06-07-2007, 07:21 AM
Watching porn is safe sex.
Jaaaman
06-07-2007, 11:28 AM
Pornography directly leads to the objectification and dehumanization of women (and sometimes men). Pornography presents women as objects, sexualized means to gratification. Pornography is not about "sexuality", it has nothing to do with "sex" at all. Pornography is blatant and utter exploitation, plain and simple.
Men who view pornography do not limit the objectification to the woman on the screen/magazine, as though that wasn't bad enough. They take the image and apply it to all women: your sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, etc. Soon, the object becomes a woman at the office, a co-worker, friend, or neighbor. The object becomes you or someone you love.
Pornography's influence is not limited to where it is presented. Those who use it are changed by it. It becomes acceptable in their minds for them to treat all women in the way they see the women in the pornography. It becomes "okay" for them to view women as sexual objects. When men treat women as sexual objects, they do not relate to them on a human to human level. They begin to think it is all right for them to say things to them they would never say to a fellow human being. The respect, the camaraderie is lost.
It is not "okay" for men to view women as sexual objects. Pornography is not "okay". It has proliferated our media, our magazines, our internet, our television. And what about our children? They are seeing this too. Do we really want our children growing up in a world like this? How do you think the children would feel to know how men are viewing their mothers? Their teachers? Their friends? Is this really how we want our world, people? :(
Red Dragon
06-07-2007, 08:44 PM
Pornography, sometimes shortened to porn or porno, is, in its broadest state, the explicit representation of the human body or sexual activity with the goal of sexual arousal and/or sexual relief. Taken from wikipedia
And also pornography raises sexual crimes give me a break. Japan a country who has more pornography in their culture actually has the lowest number of reported rape cases and the highest percentage of arrests and convictions in reported cases of any developed nation. Indeed, Japan is known as one of the safest developed countries for women in the world. If you want to learn more you can go here (http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_rape_jp.html). One thing I've always wondered though is why when we see a person blow up an entire we call it action, but yet we see some expose a part of their body we call it smut. Now I may be wrong about this but I think 99 out of 100 prefer sex over violence. Sex is a natural thing that happens millions of times a day but destroying things with a spectacular explosion is not normal and doesn't happen too often in this country. So why do people pull out their pitchforks and torches when they see people mating but on the media but do nothing when they see horrid acts of violence? Our culture is illogical in that aspect, if I may say so.
Nitrus
06-07-2007, 09:33 PM
Wheres the poll in this thread?????
Men who view pornography do not limit the objectification to the woman on the screen/magazine, as though that wasn't bad enough. They take the image and apply it to all women: your sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, etc. Soon, the object becomes a woman at the office, a co-worker, friend, or neighbor. The object becomes you or someone you love.
Sorry Jaaa........but if they do this, then their problem isn't porn, it's something deeper.
Pornography's influence is not limited to where it is presented. Those who use it are changed by it. It becomes acceptable in their minds for them to treat all women in the way they see the women in the pornography. It becomes "okay" for them to view women as sexual objects. When men treat women as sexual objects, they do not relate to them on a human to human level. They begin to think it is all right for them to say things to them they would never say to a fellow human being. The respect, the camaraderie is lost.
I don't know.......I still have pretty good camaraderie with my husband.
Too much information?:P
AlonzoMourning23
06-07-2007, 10:25 PM
Pornography directly leads to the objectification and dehumanization of women (and sometimes men). Pornography presents women as objects, sexualized means to gratification. Pornography is not about "sexuality", it has nothing to do with "sex" at all. Pornography is blatant and utter exploitation, plain and simple.
Men who view pornography do not limit the objectification to the woman on the screen/magazine, as though that wasn't bad enough. They take the image and apply it to all women: your sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, etc. Soon, the object becomes a woman at the office, a co-worker, friend, or neighbor. The object becomes you or someone you love.
Pornography's influence is not limited to where it is presented. Those who use it are changed by it. It becomes acceptable in their minds for them to treat all women in the way they see the women in the pornography. It becomes "okay" for them to view women as sexual objects. When men treat women as sexual objects, they do not relate to them on a human to human level. They begin to think it is all right for them to say things to them they would never say to a fellow human being. The respect, the camaraderie is lost.
It is not "okay" for men to view women as sexual objects. Pornography is not "okay". It has proliferated our media, our magazines, our internet, our television. And what about our children? They are seeing this too. Do we really want our children growing up in a world like this? How do you think the children would feel to know how men are viewing their mothers? Their teachers? Their friends? Is this really how we want our world, people? :(
So women were treated better before porno was popular?
Jaaaman
06-07-2007, 11:00 PM
So women were treated better before porno was popular?
Yes, I believe they were.
AlonzoMourning23
06-07-2007, 11:03 PM
Weren't women mostly relegated to housework and weren't men in charge of the house? How many women would have been taken seriously as politicians, managers, doctors, ceo's etc? What a golden age to be a woman!
Jaaaman
06-07-2007, 11:23 PM
Weren't women mostly relegated to housework and weren't men in charge of the house? How many women would have been taken seriously as politicians, managers, doctors, ceo's etc? What a golden age to be a woman!
It was not as bad as you are making it out to be. Women can be all of those things and more... but the degrading nature of pornography does nothing to help their image.
AlonzoMourning23
06-07-2007, 11:29 PM
Weren't women mostly relegated to housework and weren't men in charge of the house? How many women would have been taken seriously as politicians, managers, doctors, ceo's etc? What a golden age to be a woman!
It was not as bad as you are making it out to be. Women can be all of those things and more... but the degrading nature of pornography does nothing to help their image.
But could they realistically be those things in most cases? You argued they were treated better before pornography was popular.
But, second, some porn is degrading and there are issues of enforcement that need to be addressed (ie. people being told one thing but something else happens when filming starts). But, at the same time, there are porn films that don't do such things. There are even porn films directed by women.
NortheastCynic
06-08-2007, 04:15 AM
Pardon me for asking, but Jaaaman, do you have any links/studies that show that men who watch more pornography objectify women more than any other man. While you're on it, do you have any links/studies that show that that causes any actual harm. While you're on it, can you explain to me how it is with the legitimate scope of government to regulate someone watching a consensual porn movie in the privacy of their home?
-NC
Yushimi
06-08-2007, 04:22 AM
Weren't women mostly relegated to housework and weren't men in charge of the house? How many women would have been taken seriously as politicians, managers, doctors, ceo's etc? What a golden age to be a woman!
It was not as bad as you are making it out to be. Women can be all of those things and more... but the degrading nature of pornography does nothing to help their image.
I really don't see what the big deal is. Even though I am underage [and yes teenagers do this so don't get all piped up about the law] I watch porn. Alot . XD and its better than me going out and having sex, its not harming anyone and the actors get money.
Unless we're talking about rape videos when father's tie their daughters up, but thats something DIFFERENT.
Women really AREN'T that degraded in porn. All porn really is is people having sex XD And SURE they do some wierd acts to fill that need but it wouldn't be any different in a bedroom.
People who just think of other people around them have some OTHER mental thing going on
underdawg
06-08-2007, 05:38 AM
Pornography directly leads to the objectification and dehumanization of women (and sometimes men). Pornography presents women as objects, sexualized means to gratification. Pornography is not about "sexuality", it has nothing to do with "sex" at all. Pornography is blatant and utter exploitation, plain and simple.
Men who view pornography do not limit the objectification to the woman on the screen/magazine, as though that wasn't bad enough. They take the image and apply it to all women: your sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, etc. Soon, the object becomes a woman at the office, a co-worker, friend, or neighbor. The object becomes you or someone you love.
Pornography's influence is not limited to where it is presented. Those who use it are changed by it. It becomes acceptable in their minds for them to treat all women in the way they see the women in the pornography. It becomes "okay" for them to view women as sexual objects. When men treat women as sexual objects, they do not relate to them on a human to human level. They begin to think it is all right for them to say things to them they would never say to a fellow human being. The respect, the camaraderie is lost.
It is not "okay" for men to view women as sexual objects. Pornography is not "okay". It has proliferated our media, our magazines, our internet, our television. And what about our children? They are seeing this too. Do we really want our children growing up in a world like this? How do you think the children would feel to know how men are viewing their mothers? Their teachers? Their friends? Is this really how we want our world, people? :(
I totally disagree with everything you just said. Porn is totally about fantasy. When ever you have a crush on someone you tend to imagine yourself with this other person. It is a totally normal thing. When you actually look at porn , you are just providing yourself with added visual or perhaps audio material for fantasy. And as far as women being sexual objects, I would say... yeah, so? If women were not the object of men's sexual interest then there would be no desire to get together for sex. It seems to me that Christianity has made people fear sex except for being used for procreation. I think that the Christian view of sex is totally unnatural.
PatrickHenry
06-08-2007, 05:53 AM
It seems to me that Christianity has made people fear sex except for being used for procreation. I think that the Christian view of sex is totally unnatural.
Please don't stereotype christians. There is no doctrine limiting sex to procreation in my wing of the christian faith...
underdawg
06-08-2007, 05:57 AM
I apologize. It is actually the evangelicals that I meant to direct my post upon.
It seems to me that Christianity has made people fear sex except for being used for procreation. I think that the Christian view of sex is totally unnatural.
Please don't stereotype christians. There is no doctrine limiting sex to procreation in my wing of the christian faith...
PatrickHenry
06-08-2007, 08:47 AM
It is true that the Bible tells believers not to engage in illicit sex. That would be sex outside of marriage. But I think even evangelicals have fun with their wives and husbands and don't just try for children...
Is it totally passé to confine oneself solely to sex in a marriage relationship? I mean, do you think I am just being foolish to remain faithful to my wife for the past twenty-three years?
Truth_and_Power
06-08-2007, 02:10 PM
It is true that the Bible tells believers not to engage in illicit sex. That would be sex outside of marriage. But I think even evangelicals have fun with their wives and husbands and don't just try for children...
Is it totally passé to confine oneself solely to sex in a marriage relationship? I mean, do you think I am just being foolish to remain faithful to my wife for the past twenty-three years?
Nope, that's a sign that you have respect and morals. Three cheers for the faithful..
Professor
06-16-2007, 02:48 AM
Don't ban porn!!!
While I do think porn does objectify women it also objectifies men or anyone else in it. It's about meaningless sex. The people are objects.
Wow. I think I may be the only person on this site who has never watched porn... *ick sex*
However, I agree with the above speakers about the fact that, the whole concept of porn does objectify humans, that deserve to be looked upon as more than just objects. Whether or not we accept it, porn has changed our world (I believe, in a negative way.) Though I disagree with it completely, I also don't believe it should be banned. Just because I disagree with it, doesn't mean other people don't get a lot of pleasure from it. If I don't want to view it, I can stay away from it. I believe the issue comes, when porn enters the Internet scene and children have access to it. If you search "girls.com" on your computer, you are at a PORN site. Children shouldn't be able to stumble across it that easily, when they're still innocent and wouldn't understand what they were watching.
micfranklin
06-19-2007, 11:14 PM
Assuming it were a viable option, should pornography be banned? Why or why not?
No. If someone wants to get horny from watching videos then let them. No one's business but their's.
Mayberry
06-19-2007, 11:33 PM
The problem with this would be that people's definition of "porn" varies widely. To some hard core Christians, a tasteful nude portrait constitutes pornography. Folks are too preoccupied with banning things nowadays. It doesn't work.
underdawg
06-20-2007, 07:20 AM
I really don't see what the big deal is with porn. When I was living with my boyfriend, we both enjoyed watching a porn together. Did we look at other guys as objects? Sure, I suppose. We could walk down the street together and see a cute guy pass by. He might say, Hey, look at that cute guy. I would say, Oh yeah, he's totally my type. Then we would just walk on. He would be an object at that moment, just because we didn't know him.
I have a dear old heterosexual girlfriend from college who came to visit a few years ago. I came home from work one day and to my shock and embarrassment I found her watching one of my porn movies I had supposedly hidden. The first thing she said was, "Dude, those are some awesome porns. Could you make a copy of some for me?"
I really don't see anything wrong at all as being seen as a sex object. The really sad part is when you are no longer seen as a sex object. Thats when you know you are finally over that hill.
PatrickHenry
06-20-2007, 09:20 AM
I really don't see anything wrong at all as being seen as a sex object. The really sad part is when you are no longer seen as a sex object. Thats when you know you are finally over that hill.
How true, brother...
Marley
06-20-2007, 03:01 PM
How the hell can you "ban" what can't be defined?
You know the old quote "know it when you see it."
Salim
06-27-2007, 03:39 AM
pornorgapchy should be banned to a certain extent, little children (you) would get exploited by older people and get themselves but on internet so that anyone that can read and type could see it. pornographic sites should have better security so minors (me) cannot see it as much (as much as we want to). and by security i dont mean "if you are over 18 click this link!" if not then click this tiny box in the corner that no one pays attention to if there is a naked girl in the front
preservanation
06-27-2007, 05:03 AM
pornorgapchy should be banned to a certain extent, little children (you) would get exploited by older people and get themselves but on internet so that anyone that can read and type could see it. pornographic sites should have better security so minors (me) cannot see it as much (as much as we want to). and by security i dont mean "if you are over 18 click this link!" if not then click this tiny box in the corner that no one pays attention to if there is a naked girl in the front
559 views. go figger.
Hooo boy!~
Men who view pornography do not limit the objectification to the woman on the screen/magazine, as though that wasn't bad enough. They take the image and apply it to all women: your sister, mother, wife, girlfriend, etc. Soon, the object becomes a woman at the office, a co-worker, friend, or neighbor. The object becomes you or someone you love.
Sorry Jaaa........but if they do this, then their problem isn't porn, it's something deeper.
Pornography's influence is not limited to where it is presented. Those who use it are changed by it. It becomes acceptable in their minds for them to treat all women in the way they see the women in the pornography. It becomes "okay" for them to view women as sexual objects. When men treat women as sexual objects, they do not relate to them on a human to human level. They begin to think it is all right for them to say things to them they would never say to a fellow human being. The respect, the camaraderie is lost.
I don't know.......I still have pretty good camaraderie with my husband.
Too much information?:P
Absolutely ... I would be havin' so much less fun if my partner only viewed me with respect and I always had to preserve my dignity ...:D
And, btw, my partner is a woman, so women look too! :)
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