Cindy Sheehan's stepping down

[ViolaLee]

"Good Riddance Attention Whore"
by CindySheehan
Mon May 28, 2007 at 09:57:01 AM PDT
I have endured a lot of smear and hatred since Casey was killed and especially since I became the so-called "Face" of the American anti-war movement. Especially since I renounced any tie I have remaining with the Democratic Party, I have been further trashed on such "liberal blogs" as the Democratic Underground. Being called an "attention whore" and being told "good riddance" are some of the more milder rebukes.

CindySheehan's diary :: ::
I have come to some heartbreaking conclusions this Memorial Day Morning. These are not spur of the moment reflections, but things I have been meditating on for about a year now. The conclusions that I have slowly and very reluctantly come to are very heartbreaking to me.

The first conclusion is that I was the darling of the so-called left as long as I limited my protests to George Bush and the Republican Party. Of course, I was slandered and libeled by the right as a "tool" of the Democratic Party. This label was to marginalize me and my message. How could a woman have an original thought, or be working outside of our "two-party" system?

However, when I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode and the "left" started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used. I guess no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue of peace and people dying for no reason is not a matter of "right or left", but "right and wrong."

I am deemed a radical because I believe that partisan politics should be left to the wayside when hundreds of thousands of people are dying for a war based on lies that is supported by Democrats and Republican alike. It amazes me that people who are sharp on the issues and can zero in like a laser beam on lies, misrepresentations, and political expediency when it comes to one party refuse to recognize it in their own party. Blind party loyalty is dangerous whatever side it occurs on. People of the world look on us Americans as jokes because we allow our political leaders so much murderous latitude and if we don’t find alternatives to this corrupt "two" party system our Representative Republic will die and be replaced with what we are rapidly descending into with nary a check or balance: a fascist corporate wasteland. I am demonized because I don’t see party affiliation or nationality when I look at a person, I see that person’s heart. If someone looks, dresses, acts, talks and votes like a Republican, then why do they deserve support just because he/she calls him/herself a Democrat?

I have also reached the conclusion that if I am doing what I am doing because I am an "attention whore" then I really need to be committed. I have invested everything I have into trying to bring peace with justice to a country that wants neither. If an individual wants both, then normally he/she is not willing to do more than walk in a protest march or sit behind his/her computer criticizing others. I have spent every available cent I got from the money a "grateful" country gave me when they killed my son and every penny that I have received in speaking or book fees since then. I have sacrificed a 29 year marriage and have traveled for extended periods of time away from Casey’s brother and sisters and my health has suffered and my hospital bills from last summer (when I almost died) are in collection because I have used all my energy trying to stop this country from slaughtering innocent human beings. I have been called every despicable name that small minds can think of and have had my life threatened many times.

The most devastating conclusion that I reached this morning, however, was that Casey did indeed die for nothing. His precious lifeblood drained out in a country far away from his family who loves him, killed by his own country which is beholden to and run by a war machine that even controls what we think. I have tried every since he died to make his sacrifice meaningful. Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months while Democrats and Republicans play politics with human lives. It is so painful to me to know that I bought into this system for so many years and Casey paid the price for that allegiance. I failed my boy and that hurts the most.

I have also tried to work within a peace movement that often puts personal egos above peace and human life. This group won’t work with that group; he won’t attend an event if she is going to be there; and why does Cindy Sheehan get all the attention anyway? It is hard to work for peace when the very movement that is named after it has so many divisions.

Our brave young men and women in Iraq have been abandoned there indefinitely by their cowardly leaders who move them around like pawns on a chessboard of destruction and the people of Iraq have been doomed to death and fates worse than death by people worried more about elections than people. However, in five, ten, or fifteen years, our troops will come limping home in another abject defeat and ten or twenty years from then, our children’s children will be seeing their loved ones die for no reason, because their grandparents also bought into this corrupt system. George Bush will never be impeached because if the Democrats dig too deeply, they may unearth a few skeletons in their own graves and the system will perpetuate itself in perpetuity.

I am going to take whatever I have left and go home. I am going to go home and be a mother to my surviving children and try to regain some of what I have lost. I will try to maintain and nurture some very positive relationships that I have found in the journey that I was forced into when Casey died and try to repair some of the ones that have fallen apart since I began this single-minded crusade to try and change a paradigm that is now, I am afraid, carved in immovable, unbendable and rigidly mendacious marble.

Camp Casey has served its purpose. It’s for sale. Anyone want to buy five beautiful acres in Crawford , Texas ? I will consider any reasonable offer. I hear George Bush will be moving out soon, too...which makes the property even more valuable.

This is my resignation letter as the "face" of the American anti-war movement. This is not my "Checkers" moment, because I will never give up trying to help people in the world who are harmed by the empire of the good old US of A, but I am finished working in, or outside of this system. This system forcefully resists being helped and eats up the people who try to help it. I am getting out before it totally consumes me or anymore people that I love and the rest of my resources.

Good-bye America ...you are not the country that I love and I finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice, I can’t make you be that country unless you want it.

It’s up to you now.http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/28/12530/1525

She did her part.

I have also been frustrated by the different peace groups not working together.

She paid her dues. Now it's up to us.

[Achilles]

She was brave indeed, however, did she think she could change the country all by herself? That would be a great feat especially in the manner she was doing it.

She was also correct on many points. The war in Iraq, blind faith in your party, the two party system, etc.
I have no idea how we solve these problems she stated. We can't do anything about the War until we have a new administration. We can't convince anyone to think on their feet rather than take their politican's word. And were we to create more political parties, they would be just as successful as the Knights party (Ku Klux Klan political party).

[Labrocca]

So does she realize now that indeed she was only a tool for the left to smear Bush?

Here is the saddest part...her name is more famous (infamous) than her son that actually sacrificed for this country. She should have worked on getting him the recognition for his bravery but instead she trashed his memory. As she states..he died for nothing...but not because the war is meaningless but because his own mother denounced what he died for. His own mother never honored him for his bravery. His own mother distanced herself from the brave men and women that fought along side her son and people that were brothers in arms.

Shame on you Cindy Sheehan for doing that to Casey whom I have a feeling would not be too pleased by your actions.

I failed my boy and that hurts the most.

[wonder cow]

Labrocca, I'm not a big Sheehan fan, but your take on the whole thing is erred.

It is basically this:

We don't want to think that these servicemen and women are dying needlessly, so don't fight against the Bush administration's absurd ass policy, that would dishonor the troops.

Hell, I think keeping quiet and letting them go over to Iraq to possibly die (for what?) pretty much dishonors the shit out of them.

I think using the slogan "support the troops" to quell dissent dishonors these soldiers.

How many more is it going to take? Almost 60,000 US service men died in Vietnam. Maybe if those assholes in the Bush administration had not skipped out on that war, they would have learned a little about the nature of war and we would not be in this mess.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Is this a Real Estate add, or a letter of defeat?
2. Or an end of stupidity?
3. I wonder how much she's asking for the 5 acres?
4. She wasn't the *Face*, of the Anti-War Movement.
5. She was the a$$ end of it.
6. Look, I remember when she was still the attack dog of the neolibs, and she had that book signing.
7. No one came.
8. That should of been her first sign that she was being the a$$ not the head.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Truth_and_Power]

Never doubt the ability of the small minded to ruthlessly slander someone who has given everything in search of peace. Only a lack of knowledge of history or a bit of the head-in-the-sand disease could have kept her from seeing it coming. This is just a prelude to our forthcoming choice between two great evils in 2008.

[NortheastCynic]

Sadly, it's very, very, very hard to feel sorry for Cindy Sheehan anymore. My sympathies go out to her family and I feel badly for what happen to her son BUT...
If you go on national TV and say that you'd rather live under Hugo Chavez, if you visit Cuba and have nothing but good to say about it after refusing to hear from Cuban dissidents or if you claim that the President is a worst terrorist than Osama Bin Laden and you don't expect to be called "slurs"...you're among the dumbest people to walk this Earth. Cindy Sheehan just isn't very smart, period. The woman wanted to meet with the President...he met with her...twice, most people on this planet cannot say they've had two meetings with the President of the United States. If she wanted to continuously protest the war she could have done that without saying the aforementioned items, thereby preserving some degree of respectability. The women was an attention/media whore on top of being not very bright...So now she's "stepping down"...I'll try not to lose sleep at night that such a respectable and intellectual defender of the anti-war position no longer fights against the forces of evil.

-NC

[loosecannon]

[quote]She did her part.

I have also been frustrated by the different peace groups not working together.

She paid her dues. Now it's up to us.


Thanks for posting this Viola

Cindy finally got it spot on in the end. Even the democrats turn visciously on their own when a person speaks truth and not the party line. Her point about right vs wrong rather than right versus left and the corrosive effects of the 2 P system are bullseyes.

But really there is a bigger picture than Just Cindy. The dem party just sold 70% of the nation down the river when they capitulated fully to GWB demands that he get the supplemental on his terms.

Cindy wasn't the only former dem to finally withdraw suppoert for the dem party. I am one myself. And polls I have posted on other boards indicate it is a watershed.

The dems blew it, big time, proved themselves to represent something and some base that I can not even recognize.

Maybe Good riddance is what we should be saying to all of the politicians from BOTH parties who refuse to listen to and represent the people of the democracy.

[Waffletush]

Held to high esteem by the Democrats so long as she ripped Republicans. Once she held Democrats to the same standards, they turned on her.

And this is a revelation to her because...?

[bobbylien]

I'm sorry Cindy but you should have stuck to the anti-war movement. Going out and giving your opinion on something else was your biggest mistake. Whats amazing to me is that she doesn't know why the democratic leaders had to sideline her. They just can't be seen with someone who calls Bush a bigger terrorist than Osama.

[Survivor]

So, she decided, after losing her husband and whatever credibility she might have had, to spend time with her children and retire. Where did she get the money to travel everywhere while she was dissing the United States Government? I hope the IRS nails her .

[lily]

Survivor I beleive Code Pink was her supporter.

[Labrocca]

We don't want to think that these servicemen and women are dying needlessly, so don't fight against the Bush administration's absurd ass policy, that would dishonor the troops.

Hell, I think keeping quiet and letting them go over to Iraq to possibly die (for what?) pretty much dishonors the shit out of them.


No...I believe it's a matter of proportion. She was so anti-Bush and used by the left in such a manner that she became the focus. Her message was drowned out actually. The left loved her criticism of Bush...the right denounced her as a leftist pawn. Her first wrong step was aligning herself with guys like Michael Moore to begin with. If she has used her mouth as an opponent of the war vs and opponent of Bush maybe someone would have listened. Instead she helped the Dems get power in the election which they didn't do crap on the war issue. She obviously has come to the conclusion she was duped and she is right.

Sometimes it's not just the message that's important but HOW you get that message heard. Protesting at Bush's ranch house in Texas was NOT the proper thing to do. She should have been in Washington yelling her ass off at every politician she could find that voted for the war. She incorrectly blamed the GOP for the war. The war was brought forth by the right but the Dems certainly gave it the nod.

[Waffletush]

Wow, not a single person who has Democract/Liberal as their party affiliation has touched this thread. Not a one. Even those who supported Sheehan are now dead quiet.

[Achilles]

Wow, not a single person who has Democract/Liberal as their party affiliation has touched this thread. Not a one. Even those who supported Sheehan are now dead quiet.


I dont think they that they think that they need to. Cindy basically summed up everything the Libs believe as of today.

[ViolaLee]

Wow, not a single person who has Democract/Liberal as their party affiliation has touched this thread. Not a one. Even those who supported Sheehan are now dead quiet.


Hmmm maybe you should read the first page, or even this one! I'm a Liberal Democrat and peace supporters are posting here. How did you miss them all?

[Labrocca]

You list your affiliation as Green Party...so technically he is correct.

[ViolaLee]

You list your affiliation as Green Party...so technically he is correct.
He's incorrect. There are Sheehan supporters posting in this thread.

[BoogyMan]

Not one of the posters in this thread so far has listed Democrat as their affiliation.

[Waffletush]

You list your affiliation as Green Party...so technically he is correct.
He's incorrect. There are Sheehan supporters posting in this thread.


Can you show me one who has Democract/Liberal listed as their party affiliation? Just one...

[NortheastCynic]

As far as I can tell, no one has their political affiliation set as "Democrat" or "Liberal". That is not to say that liberals haven't posted here...Two Green Party members [would you call them conservative or moderate?] and two liberal independents have expressed their opinions here...So I'm not seeing your point Waffle.

-NC

[ViolaLee]

Not one of the posters in this thread so far has listed Democrat as their affiliation.





You list your affiliation as Green Party...so technically he is correct.
He's incorrect. There are Sheehan supporters posting in this thread.


Can you show me one who has Democract/Liberal listed as their party affiliation? Just one...


There ya go boys. A democrat. Are you happy now?

What a strange point to pursue in a Cindy Sheehan thread. What happened you big tough Republicans got tired of bashing a woman who lost her son in the war?

[Survivor]

Survivor I beleive Code Pink was her supporter.
That may very well be the case, Lily. However, she collected thousands of $'s on a 501C3 non-profit corporatoion status and failed to file the papers with the Secretary of State as legally required. Not very smart. She paid $50,000 for Camp Casey and now puts it on the market. Not very smart. She played "tootsie" with Hugo Chavez and Jesse Jackson. Not very smart. She criticized the president's policies while she was in another country. Not very smart.

[December]

Quote:

"I was saddened by Cindy Sheehan’s resignation from the peace movement. Her effort showed how a small group of committed people can make their voices heard with miniscule funding. Unfortunately, the roar of the pro-war machine in this country successfully shouted Sheehan down.

"Good-bye America ...,” wrote Sheehan in her Daily KOS diary, “you are not the country that I love and I finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice, I can't make you be that country unless you want it. It's up to you now."

Sheehan’s right. America is no longer the same place that like-minded progressives embraced".

http://www.mytown.ca/sakin/

http://www.conservativethinking.com/files/cindy-sheehan-arrested-02-thumb.jpghttp://www.conservativethinking.com/files/cindy-sheehan-arrested-01.jpg

http://www.globaljusticeecology.org/imgs/news/sheehan1.jpg

[Labrocca]

What happened you big tough Republicans got tired of bashing a woman who lost her son in the war?

I don't believe I can ever tire of that.

Sheehan is a joke pawn of leftists and she finally has realized that. Yeah Sheehan was wrong from day one about America. Most Americans do support the troops despite her insistence that we do not. Sheehan has disgraced all soilders who are now fighting for HER freedoms. Sheehan has disgraced the memory of her own son that had died for this country.

Sheehan will forever be remembered as a pawn to gain political power for the left. What has she changed? What has she accomplished that she set out to do? NOTHING.

I used to feel bad she lost her son in the war but now...I just feel bad he died and for her I feel nothing..no pity, no sorrow...and I am even disgusted be her actions.

She really isn't stepping down either. She held no position..no post. She has simply walked away from the game that she realized was irrelevent anyways. She is a loser...has been since day one.

No I will NEVER get tired of bashing this woman...ever.

[lily]

Survivor I beleive Code Pink was her supporter.
That may very well be the case, Lily. However, she collected thousands of $'s on a 501C3 non-profit corporatoion status and failed to file the papers with the Secretary of State as legally required. Not very smart. She paid $50,000 for Camp Casey and now puts it on the market. Not very smart.

Well, I'm sure as much as she's hated, the IRS will come after her. If she owes the money she should pay.

She played "tootsie" with Hugo Chavez and Jesse Jackson. Not very smart. She criticized the president's policies while she was in another country. Not very smart.

Like it or not, none of it is illegal.

[lily]

Sheehan is a joke pawn of leftists and she finally has realized that. Yeah Sheehan was wrong from day one about America. Most Americans do support the troops despite her insistence that we do not. Sheehan has disgraced all soilders who are now fighting for HER freedoms. Sheehan has disgraced the memory of her own son that had died for this country.

Yes I will agree that she was a pawn and as a full grown woman should have known that she was being used. I think more by the right as look at this crazy woman........but I'm curious....just what freedoms of her's or any American's for that matter are we fighting for in Iraq?

Sheehan will forever be remembered as a pawn to gain political power for the left. What has she changed? What has she accomplished that she set out to do? NOTHING.

If nothing else she was one of the most vocal spokespersons for the end of this war.

I used to feel bad she lost her son in the war but now...I just feel bad he died and for her I feel nothing..no pity, no sorrow...and I am even disgusted be her actions.

Well, Labrocca.......I don't know about you and luckily enough I haven't lost a child, but I would never tell someone how to grieve.



No I will NEVER get tired of bashing this woman...ever.

........as I said........more of a tool for the right.

[Labrocca]

...just what freedoms of her's or any American's for that matter are we fighting for in Iraq

Maybe if someone would have responded to this you would know my answer.

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=5331

[ViolaLee]

Where's my last post about the people who bash our soldier's mothers? I didn't break any rules. Why was it deleted?

[Labrocca]

Where's my last post about the people who bash our soldier's mothers? I didn't break any rules. Why was it deleted?


It was split into Fools Paradise..not deleted. You can continue in there if you wish but to continue in this thread please stay on-topic.

And for the record. Cindy Sheehan is bashed NOT because she is a soldiers mother. She is based for being a leftist pawn. As a standard for bashing you certainly feel our President is fodder. I don't see how bashing Cindy Sheehan as a political figure is any different. She stopped being a soldiers mother when she became a political activist.

[ViolaLee]

Where's my last post about the people who bash our soldier's mothers? I didn't break any rules. Why was it deleted?


It was split into Fools Paradise..not deleted. You can continue in there if you wish but to continue in this thread please stay on-topic.

And for the record. Cindy Sheehan is bashed NOT because she is a soldiers mother. She is based for being a leftist pawn. As a standard for bashing you certainly feel our President is fodder. I don't see how bashing Cindy Sheehan as a political figure is any different. She stopped being a soldiers mother when she became a political activist.


Thanks, I found it. I wrote that from the heart, so I was a bit disturbed that it was removed. I was completely on topic and it was moved anyway. (?) Here it is again.

People that bash the mother who lost her son in the war because she fights to end the war set me off the same way. It's unbelievable to me, how mean and nasty the republicans are to the mother of a soldier. Put the yellow ribbons on your cars and impune the character of a dead soldier's mother. That's the republican party.

And in addition, to answer your post, how can a mother such as Cindy Sheehan stop being a mother?

I think that's a ridiculous concept you've got going there Labrocca. I think you're probably ashamed of yourself for bashing her and you're trying to pretend she isn't a mother who lost her son.

But she is. And you Republicans are brutal.

[Labrocca]

That's why I addressed the bashing...to give you another opportunity to respond and bring your opinion back in.

I feel ZERO shame for my comments on Sheehan. She doesn't get a pass for 2 years because she mothered a soldier that died. She has done nothing but disgrace this country which is exactly what her son was fighting against. The Hugo Chavez crap was way over the top for her.

Dems/Libs can be just as brutal especially with their commentary to our commander-in-chief. btw...I don't believe Cindy Sheehan reads this site so I don't in any way feel bad for expressing my opinions of her here. If I was face to face with her...I would give her due respect as I would anyone. I would assume you would do the same if you met the President.

This site is almost a fantasy...we can say a LOT of things we normally wouldn't have the courage to say to someones face.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I would tell her what happened to her.
2. So then she would at least know how the Neolibs raped her, and the media prostituted her.
3. She was nothing but a neolib prostitute, who even till this day doesn't know it.
4. And the fact that her son died, in *The USA Military*, changes nothing to her benefit.
5. She was used, and every-time she turned around, some one else was using her.
6. I think she finally had a friend tell her.
7. *Great Job Banning Loosecanon!* that guy had a lot of stupid nerve, kinda like Sheehan.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[ViolaLee]

That's why I addressed the bashing...to give you another opportunity to respond and bring your opinion back in.

I feel ZERO shame for my comments on Sheehan. She doesn't get a pass for 2 years because she mothered a soldier that died. She has done nothing but disgrace this country which is exactly what her son was fighting against. The Hugo Chavez crap was way over the top for her.

Dems/Libs can be just as brutal especially with their commentary to our commander-in-chief. btw...I don't believe Cindy Sheehan reads this site so I don't in any way feel bad for expressing my opinions of her here. If I was face to face with her...I would give her due respect as I would anyone. I would assume you would do the same if you met the President.

This site is almost a fantasy...we can say a LOT of things we normally wouldn't have the courage to say to someones face.

My comment could have been left here in the first place.

We shouldn't talk behind people's backs about things we wouldn't say straight to their faces.

If I met President Bush I would turn my back to him.

[Labrocca]

We shouldn't talk behind people's backs about things we wouldn't say straight to their faces.

If I met President Bush I would turn my back to him.

I don't understand? You say a LOT of crap about Bush...yet if you had the chance you would turn your back? I thought you just said you shouldn't say things you wouldn't say straight to their faces? Wow...

And Cindy Sheehan is a political figure now. She is a fair game as an activist. When you step into the limelight as she has...you don't get to pick and choose what things people can say about you. She is no different than a senator or political commentator like Rush Limbaugh. She has decided to live a PUBLIC life and to garnish attention for her cause. She can't choose for it only to be positive.

Your theory is that I shouldn't say things that are mean about her.

My theory...you shouldn't tell me what I can and can't say because that's censorship.

[ViolaLee]

We shouldn't talk behind people's backs about things we wouldn't say straight to their faces.

If I met President Bush I would turn my back to him.

I don't understand? You say a LOT of crap about Bush...yet if you had the chance you would turn your back? I thought you just said you shouldn't say things you wouldn't say straight to their faces? Wow...

And Cindy Sheehan is a political figure now. She is a fair game as an activist. When you step into the limelight as she has...you don't get to pick and choose what things people can say about you. She is no different than a senator or political commentator like Rush Limbaugh. She has decided to live a PUBLIC life and to garnish attention for her cause. She can't choose for it only to be positive.

Your theory is that I shouldn't say things that are mean about her.

My theory...you shouldn't tell me what I can and can't say because that's censorship.
Turning one's back to the President is a HUGE statement in itself. Do you think that in a crowd if he were shaking hands I could actually get a word in edgewise before he went to shake the next hand? Please....

Turning one's back is the statement.

I'm not saying you shouldn't say whatever you want to say about Sheehan or anyone else. But when you bash the mother of a dead US soldier who fought in Iraq, don't pretend you support the troops at the same time.

[Labrocca]

I just think you are not recognizing the double standard you are portraying here. On one hand you say I should respect the mother of a dead soldier but on the other you say it's perfectly acceptable to disrespect the President of our country? The COMMANDER of those troops...talk about not supporting. :rolleyes:

[ViolaLee]

I just think you are not recognizing the double standard you are portraying here. On one hand you say I should respect the mother of a dead soldier but on the other you say it's perfectly acceptable to disrespect the President of our country? The COMMANDER of those troops...talk about not supporting. :rolleyes:
The commander guy, the decider, does not deserve respect after sending our troops to war based on lies to die fighting for Iraqi oil. I support the troops, not the asshole moron president who lied us into war.

[Labrocca]

As I said..you don't recognize the double standard...but that's fine. I just want to know the type of person you are. It helps me in debates. Now I know exactly how you think and how pointless it is to argue with you about certain things.

Goodluck on that hatred thing.

I support the troops, not the asshole moron president who lied us into war.

Talk about towing the party line...where exactly did you copy and paste that from?

[ViolaLee]

As I said..you don't recognize the double standard...but that's fine. I just want to know the type of person you are. It helps me in debates. Now I know exactly how you think and how pointless it is to argue with you about certain things.

Goodluck on that hatred thing.

I support the troops, not the asshole moron president who lied us into war.

Talk about towing the party line...where exactly did you copy and paste that from?


Wow, after a few hours of discussing issues now you know exactly how I think. That's freakin amazing. You should go on TV with that talent!

/sarcasm.

Copy and paste? Please.....you've got to be kidding.

Open your eyes man. You'd rather decide to cast me aside than see the truth. Hey, it's a free country. Good luck.

[Labrocca]

You'd rather decide to cast me aside than see the truth.

Ugh..no...I just would rather not bother wasting my time with someone that believes in absolutes. Lots of grey in this world but the type of person to see it all as black and white is normally not someone I care for.

Wow, after a few hours of discussing issues now you know exactly how I think.

You have yet to make a single statement I have not heard dozens of times right here on DF. If you think you are some type of original person with your very own opinions and ideas I suggest you open your eyes and look around. And no...I don't think I am any more original than you. I am just more accepting of differences in opinion. You have your ideals and opinions and I have mine.

[ViolaLee]

You'd rather decide to cast me aside than see the truth.

Ugh..no...I just would rather not bother wasting my time with someone that believes in absolutes. Lots of grey in this world but the type of person to see it all as black and white is normally not someone I care for.

Wow, after a few hours of discussing issues now you know exactly how I think.

You have yet to make a single statement I have not heard dozens of times right here on DF. If you think you are some type of original person with your very own opinions and ideas I suggest you open your eyes and look around. And no...I don't think I am any more original than you. I am just more accepting of differences in opinion. You have your ideals and opinions and I have mine.


Labrocca. Take it back and get a refund. Your crystal ball is broken.