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Alonzo
05-26-2007, 04:01 AM
ATLANTA -- An anti-drunken driving organization and a mother who lost a son to a drunk driver are livid after finding out Ben Hill Package Store, in southwest Atlanta, has been selling liquor and cups of ice through its drive-through, reported WSB-TV in Atlanta.

State regulations clearly show it is a state violation for package stores to sell anything but bags of ice. That means cups of ice are not allowed.

"To give somebody a cup of ice along with the sale of alcohol, there's something wrong about that," said Latresse Snead, Georgia's executive director of Mothers Against Drunk Driving.


Snead said it is clear customers plan to drink and drive when buying a cup of ice and alcohol, especially when purchasing cups at the drive-through.

"They don't know if that person that they just sold that alcohol to has kids in the car," said Snead.

Someone phoned Snead about the store selling cups of ice and liquor through the drive-through, and she told WSB-TV.

WSB-TV sent a television station employee through the drive-through and videotaped him buying a cup of ice for 15 cents and a bottle of liquor. The station showed the video to State Alcohol Enforcement Chief David Dyal.

"They can't do that, and then you have people drinking in the open, which is a violation of the open-container law," said Dyal.

Dyal sent agents to the store. After noticing an ice cooler for the to-go cups, the store was told to get rid of it and received a warning for the violation.

The store's owner said he had no idea he couldn't sell cups of ice. He said no one informed him.

The Georgia Alcohol Dealer's Association disputes the state's interpretation of the regulation banning cups of ice. It thinks stores can sell cups of ice as long as there are lids on the cups, which it thinks would make the cups packaged.

The Revenue Department said the Dealer's Association is wrong and only bags of ice can be sold.

An employee at Ben Hill Package Store told WSB that it is an American right for people to buy liquor and a cup of ice to drink on their way home.

Chris Melton said he is not happy state alcohol agents are forcing the store to stop selling cups of ice.

"These cats, they have a hard day at work, they come to the liquor store, buy a cup of ice," said Melton. "Most people -- I'm not saying all of them. Before they get home, they're gonna drink and drive."

He said a message on the store's cash register urges customers not to drink and drive, but he said the ice cup prohibition won't change his customers' habits.

"They're going to do it the American way and have a drink while they're driving," he said.

Donzella James was appalled to hear the store has sold liquor and cups of ice. James' 18-year-old son was killed not far from the liquor store by a five-time drunken-driving offender who had open containers in his truck.

James reacted to Melton's comments.

"I wish you had asked him, 'What if your child gets killed or your loved one gets killed because of somebody who buys a cup in here and has a drink in here on the way home?'" said James.

http://www.nbc4.com/news/13376904/detail.html

Wow, the more time passes the more I realize how anti-american I am.

Here's the video: http://mfile.akamai.com/12904/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2007/0523/13377215.200k.asx

ViolaLee
05-26-2007, 04:12 AM
There was a market for it, so he sold it. Then he found out it was against the law. Charge him with the crime, put him on trial and if he's found guilty, sentence him.
The end.

Yushimi
05-26-2007, 06:55 PM
There was a market for it, so he sold it. Then he found out it was against the law. Charge him with the crime, put him on trial and if he's found guilty, sentence him.
The end.

Labrocca
05-26-2007, 08:14 PM
Personally I don't see what's illegal about selling a cup of ice. If anything...smart cops should be hanging around there and trying to catch idiots drinking because open containers of alchohol in a car is illegal. It's a nice big fine. Good income for the city imho.

quiet man
05-26-2007, 09:06 PM
having cops hanging around almost becomes entrapment. if they did have an approach to hanging out in the vicinity. the city revenues would go up nicely. we have the drive through liquor stores here in big D as well. very nice summer time experience as well.

Alonzo
05-26-2007, 10:39 PM
Personally I don't see what's illegal about selling a cup of ice. If anything...smart cops should be hanging around there and trying to catch idiots drinking because open containers of alchohol in a car is illegal. It's a nice big fine. Good income for the city imho.


Who would buy a cup of ice to take home with them?

As for the fines, they should allow dangerous drivers on the road to make money?

lily
05-26-2007, 11:45 PM
Who would buy a cup of ice to take home with them?




Um......that would be me Zo. I love to chew ice. I even stop at McDonalds, pay for the pop and just get the ice. I hear Sonic has the best ice....but we don't have one around here.......do you know there are forums on the internet that just discuss ice??? Man, I thought I was bad, until I read some other people.

.......but back on topic. What about coke? Should they stop selling that also, because someone is going to put rum in it? While I can understand the drinking and driving thing, I can't see outlawing a glass of ice.

Alonzo
05-26-2007, 11:47 PM
Lily, you're going to a liquor store and buying ice with your liquor. Even the people working there say most are using it to drink and drive.

Labrocca
05-26-2007, 11:54 PM
Lily, you're going to a liquor store and buying ice with your liquor. Even the people working there say most are using it to drink and drive.


Ice doesn't MAKE them drink it..do you really think if they couldn't get a cup of ice they wouldn't drink? Why not outlaw brown paper bags too since that's the choice to hide your bottle or can?

I really can't see how selling a cup of ice is illegal. What if they also sold straws?

micfranklin
05-26-2007, 11:58 PM
Forgive me, but I'm not actually sure what problem selling a bag or cup of ice can cause. It just sounds stupid.

Alonzo
05-26-2007, 11:58 PM
Giving someone a cup of ice in a car would make them more likely to drink while driving. It encourages that behavior.

Honestly I think the idea of drive through liquore stores are ridiculous. I didn't even know they existed until I heard of them on the internet. I always thought the liquor stores at rest areas on highways in new hampshire were bad enough.

lily
05-27-2007, 12:00 AM
Lily, you're going to a liquor store and buying ice with your liquor. Even the people working there say most are using it to drink and drive.



Well actually I'm not...just like I don't buy a Big Mac.......I can see where you are coming from, though. I just don't approve of another government restriction........but then we don't have drive through liquor stores. It's a state law according to the article, so the store has to obey.

Labrocca
05-27-2007, 12:25 AM
Honestly I think the idea of drive through liquore stores are ridiculous.


Now that's a valid gripe.