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CheesyMuslim
05-25-2007, 12:35 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But we own Taiwan folks.
2. After defeating Japan, we own it!
3. Its time we stand up for what's ours!
4. And except our position as *Protectorate* of Taiwan.
5. Here's a link:
http://www.filipinoexpress.com/21/20_op-ed.html#lariosa
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Taiwan, A U.S. Territory?



CHICAGO, Illinois – It’s amazing how unity and money can buy.

The class action suit filed by a thousand Taiwan residents who pooled resources to bring a lawsuit before the United States District Court of Columbia in Washington may yet end their longings for identity.

They would like to be declared U.S. nationals because they are part of the U.S. territory.

In an effort to settle their status whether they are a “sovereign” or a province of the Mainland China, a group of Taiwanese residents called Taiwan Nation Party, led by Dr. Roger C.S. Lin of Gaoxiong City, filed a complaint for Declaratory Relief, asking the court to declare that when Japan, which owned Taiwan prior to World War II, surrendered after the war, Japan gave up its territorial rights over Formosa (now Taiwan) and Pescadores (a group of 90 small islands covering an area of 141 square kilometers near Taiwan) and entrusted these islands to the Allied Powers, led by the United States.

China owned Taiwan in 1683

In 1683, Formosa (Taiwan) was part of Chinese Empire, following the fall of the Ming Dynasty and rise of the Qing Dynasty. After the 1894 war between Japan and China, Japan defeated China and the two countries signed a peace treaty known as the Treaty of Shimonoseki on April 17, 1895. In this treaty, China ceded Formosa (Taiwan) and nearby islands (Pescadores) to Japan “in perpetuity and full sovereignty” and held title to its territory.

Since Taiwan and Pescadores were never turned over to any country, including Mainland China, by the Allied Powers (composed of the United States, China, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union) after World War II, these islands are now trust territories of the United States because the U.S. is still “the Principal occupying Power” of Taiwan under the Treaty of Peace with Japan signed on Sept. 8, 1951 in San Francisco, California.

MacArthur’s order

The plaintiffs cited the General Order No. 1 issued by Gen. Douglas MacArthur as Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers on Sept. 2, 1945, under which, according to United States Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, the “Republic of China was entrusted with authority over [Formosa and the Pescadores] as agent for the Allied Powers. Such trust on behalf of the Allied Powers remains in effect today.” The Order never gave China “full sovereignty” over Taiwan and Pescadores.

According to the lawsuit, the “Allied Powers originally intended to give China sovereignty over Taiwan but they later affirmatively changed their intention.”

It said the drafts dated Aug. 5, 1947, and Jan. 8, 1948, provided: “Japan hereby cedes to China in full sovereignty the island of Taiwan (Formosa) and adjacent minor islands (Pescadores).”

Missing in final draft

But in the final draft of the Peace Treaty, the lawsuit contends, “full sovereignty” over Taiwan and the Pescadores Islands was never transferred from Japan to China. Instead, Art. 23 of the Treaty “designated the United States as the ‘principal occupying Power” with respect to the territories covered by the Treaty, including ‘Formosa and Pescadores.’

For its part, the Defendant United States asked the court to dismiss the complaint because the matter is a “non-justiciable political question” that belongs to the executive, not judicial branch of government, to decide; plaintiffs lack standing that their alleged “legal limbo” is not caused by any unlawful action by the United States; none of the statutes cited by the plaintiffs waive the United States sovereign immunity; and that General MacArthur’s order “did not create a private right of action.”

And the nationality case filed Fr. Prisco Entines also in the same court asking the court to declare all Filipinos born in the Philippines during the American Occupation of the Philippines as U.S. citizens or nationals like Puerto Ricans can benefit from Taiwan’s lawsuit. Father Entines can cite identical legal precedents in this case filed by the Law Offices of Charles H. Camp in Washington, D.C. on behalf of the Taiwan Nation Party.
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Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

bobbylien
05-25-2007, 01:47 PM
The term protectorate is extremely vague. You must also understand the major political implications of declaring Taiwan to be a US territory. China would likely consider it an act of war.

stannis
05-25-2007, 01:58 PM
The term protectorate is extremely vague. You must also understand the major political implications of declaring Taiwan to be a US territory. China would likely consider it an act of war.


Indeed they would, as they regard it part of their own integral territory.

Survivor
05-25-2007, 07:56 PM
The solution is to cease trade with China because we are paying them for illegal workers in the sweat shops which helps bolster their economy. Have you looked around at Walmart lately? Mostly eveything there is manufactured in China. It is like the parable of the "slowly boiling frog."

jafar00
05-25-2007, 08:10 PM
The solution is to cease trade with China


Isn't your economy on shaky ground already? That wouldn't be intelligent.

Survivor
05-25-2007, 08:14 PM
My dear Chinese friend:

I have no knowledge the economy of the United States is on shaky ground.