The Mystery Of The 9/11 Car Bombs

[jafar00]

A much underreported aspect of the 9/11 attacks is one that concerns transmissions, sightings, reports and statements alluding to multiple mysterious suspects in different vans packed with explosives that were stopped and detained in New York while the towers were burning and in the aftermath of the attacks.

Some evidence even suggests that some of these vehicles actually exploded, and at least one was reported by mainstream media sourcing the FBI as having been parked at the base of one of the towers when it exploded and aided the collapse of the tower.

Read more and watch the videos ...

http://infowars.net/articles/april2007/230407vans.htm

[Nitrus]

Im not buying it.

[jafar00]

Well there were a lot of explosions going off that day. Did you see the one where the firemen where on the phone and then a massive explosion is heard down the street?
How about 9/11 Eyewitness where you can hear a lot of explosions and smoke from them billowing out from between the buildings?
Numerous eyewitness reports of explosions are out there, and you can't deny, even from mainstream media that the Israelis with the vans were kinda suspicious.

[Pookie]

I'm not buying it either. Ooooo and that from a gun-toting tree-hugging liberal. Ooops!
LOL!
Purrs,

[BoogyMan]

I love fiction Jafar00, I didn't know you did too? :D

Consider this one 'unsellable.'

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Yeah the Jews did it.
2. That's what all Islam wants you to think.
3. Islam is doing things like this, and did 911.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[jafar00]

Sorry bout that,

1. Yeah the Jews did it.
2. That's what all Islam wants you to think.
3. Islam is doing things like this, and did 911.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Israelis in vans with explosive residue within jumping and dancing in celebration were even reported on the mainstream news you know and love. I guess they were Israeli Jewish/Zionist Muslims?
Can't you see the evidence even when it smacks you in the face?

[Stoner]

I bet Bigfoot planted the car bombs. Maybe he even used that "special" thermite that Abaddon claims can burn perfectly straight.

[bobbylien]

I bet Bigfoot planted the car bombs. Maybe he even used that "special" thermite that Abaddon claims can burn perfectly straight.

Way to add to the thread stoner, I don't know if this forum could get along without you. You come to the conspiracy theories forum and make fun of a thread for being a conspiracy theory. :D

[Mayberry]

gun-toting tree-hugging liberal An oxymoron?:P Way to add to the thread stoner, I don't know if this forum could get along without you. It couldn't. Besides, aren't conspiracy theories just made to be made fun of? It's all pretty far fetched.

[jafar00]

Besides, aren't conspiracy theories just made to be made fun of? It's all pretty far fetched.


Conspiracy theories without any evidence to back them up are there to be picked apart and debated sure. However, this particular issue is not a theory, it's a fact.
A fact that isn't talked about all that much in the hope that it will go away and be forgotten.

[wonder cow]

jafar00, what would it take for you to believe that, for the most part, the "official" story of 9/11 is correct?

[Labrocca]

I was there...didn't happen. Trust me.

[wonder cow]

I was there...didn't happen. Trust me.

Hahaha...

[jafar00]

jafar00, what would it take for you to believe that, for the most part, the "official" story of 9/11 is correct?


An independent and properly funded inquiry that fills in the gaping holes in the current fairy tale.

[wonder cow]

An independent and properly funded inquiry that fills in the gaping holes in the current fairy tale.

Ok. Enjoy your hobby.

[Labrocca]

I was there...didn't happen. Trust me.

Hahaha...


That's a bit morbid of you to laugh at my experience. It's something that will haunt me forever. I think that's the problem with 9/11...too many people saw it on TV which makes it less real. 9/11 was very real. It happened on US soil. It happened in our biggest city. Thousands died that day from a massive terrorist attack. Many other lives were negatively effected. NYC was brought to it's knees that day. NYC has millions for a population. That night finally getting home I remember standing on the train platform and looking back at Manhattan. It was smoldering and burning as it did for days. It was a terrible site to see a could of smoke over Manhattan. This was no ordinary cloud either. It was of immense size and move with a furor. It was as if the devil himself was breathing it out from the earth. It was apparent that things will never again be the same for the city or me.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I will never be the same either.
2. I will always tell the truth about how pure evil Islam is, because of 911.
3. I got fuel for centuries.
4. If I live that long.
5. But anyway, I shall indeed live forever.
6. It will take decades for me to cool down.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[jafar00]

2. I will always tell the truth about how pure evil Islam is, because of 911.


You mean the evil of those who act contrary to the religion they twist and distort in order to justify what they do?

[Pookie]

Bah, CWN's just here to stimulate debate, remember that. Take it or leave it. Pfffffftttt!
Purrs,

[abaddon]

theres numerous testimony to explosions and also a lot of video and seismic evidence to back it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3su9mWta-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Wrnj8IBOI&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rETQrDWNW2U

[Mayberry]

Explosions. I'm sure there was no natural gas in the building, right? Gas go boom.

[jafar00]

Explosions. I'm sure there was no natural gas in the building, right? Gas go boom.


So why would natural gas be going boom seconds before the first plane hit?

[Labrocca]

If the Arab world wants to believe that we did this to ourselves then Osama Bin Laden is just an American pawn right? So are all the Arabs as a matter of fact...this is all just for that oil right? Now that oil is so cheap it all makes perfect sense. Now that America has a terrible reputation globally it all makes sense. This was a plot by our own government for America to suffer financially and politically. Yes...that's right. We want to look stupid and then have Iran build nuclear weapons and to attack us so we can start WWIII. Yup..that's the plan.

WTF...your conspiracy theories make no sense!

[wonder cow]

That's a bit morbid of you to laugh at my experience.

Uhmm..When you said, "I was there..didn't happen", I thought you were talking about 9/11, thus my "haha" was at what I thought was you being sarcastic.

[Labrocca]

That's a bit morbid of you to laugh at my experience.

Uhmm..When you said, "I was there..didn't happen", I thought you were talking about 9/11, thus my "haha" was at what I thought was you being sarcastic.


I was there. I wasn't being sarcastic.

[abaddon]

Auxiliary Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr.Paul, along with many other firemen, is very upset about the obvious cover-up and he is on a crusade for answers and justice. He was stationed at Engine 10, across the street from the World Trade centre in 1998 and 99; Engine 10 was entirely wiped out in the destruction of the towers. He explained to me that, “many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.” Paul further elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks. “There were definitely bombs in those buildings,” he told me. He explained to me that, if the building had ‘pancaked’ as it’s been called, the falling floors would have met great resistance from the steel support columns, which would have sent debris flying outward into the surrounding blocks. I asked him about the trusses, and quoted the history channel’s ‘don’t trust a truss’ explanation for the collapses. He responded in disbelief, and told me, “You could never build a truss building that high. A slight wind would knock it over! Those buildings were supported by reinforced steel. Building don’t just implode like that; this was a demolition.”

Just after the disaster, Firefighter Louie Cacchioli said, “We think there were bombs set in the building.” Notice he said ‘we’. At 9:04, just after flight 175 collided with the South Tower, a huge explosion shot 550 feet into the air from the U.S. Customs House known as WTC 6. A huge crater scars the ground where this building once stood. Something blew up WTC 6 - it wasn’t a plane; it must have been a bomb of some sort.

[wonder cow]

I was there. I wasn't being sarcastic

Right. Cripes...

Not about "being there". I thought you were saying 9/11 didn't happen at all, in a sarcastic way. Like this:

"Guys I was in New York on 9/11, and 9/11 did not happen"

When instead, now I understand you to have said:

"I was in New York. The car bombings or whatever conspiracy nonsense they are talking about in this thread didn't happen."

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Islam did this and owns it, no amount of cr@p being flung unto this story will ever change the facts.
2. Some 20 Arabs from Saudi Arabia, the home land of Islam did this.
3. And Mecca will be no more some day because of it.
4. You watch.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[abaddon]

If u check my posts u will see theres more than enough evidence that Islam had nothing to do with 911. Theres no way Bin Laden could have put van bombs in the basement and why would Bin Laden wanna frame the palestinians for it ????

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I, *The Great CWN* checked it, and I found nothing.
2. Face Islam did it.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[jafar00]

2. Face Islam did it.


Go ahead and prove it then.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But prove it eh?
2. We had phone calls from all the planes, those on board said goodbye to their loved ones, and said that the terrorists were the normal suspects, muslims.
3. There need no other proof on earth, but the words of a innocent victim before they died.
4. The Face of Islam is Evil, and Islam owns 911.
5. Not to mention that they were all on these planes, and had taken flight school to learn to do it.
6. Islam doesn't want to own this now, but they own it, and they will always own it, its there's.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[jafar00]

2. We had phone calls from all the planes, those on board said goodbye to their loved ones, and said that the terrorists were the normal suspects, muslims.


A witness cowering in the back on an airplane making an impossible to make cellphone call is suddenly an expert on Islam? Surely you can do better than that CWN.


5. Not to mention that they were all on these planes, and had taken flight school to learn to do it.


You forget to mention that the same flight schools said these students were barely competent enough to fly a single engine Cessna, yet all of a sudden developed the skills to fly a complicated passenger jet and pull off manouvers that would make a seasoned jet fighter pilot proud.

[Mayberry]

making an impossible to make cellphone call How do you figure? You forget to mention that the same flight schools said these students were barely competent enough to fly a single engine Cessna, yet all of a sudden developed the skills to fly a complicated passenger jet and pull off manouvers that would make a seasoned jet fighter pilot proud. Ever heard of "sandbagging"?

[jafar00]

making an impossible to make cellphone call

How do you figure?

The experts are also baffled as to how such good quality and long lasting signals were able to be maintained at altitude and at high speed.

wireless communications networks weren't designed for ground-to-air communication. Cellular experts privately admit that they're surprised the calls were able to be placed from the hijacked planes, and that they lasted as long as they did. They speculate that the only reason that the calls went through in the first place is that the aircraft were flying so close to the ground.
http://www.elliott.org/technology/2001/cellpermit.htm

Technology was developed several years after 9/11/2001 to enable people to make cellphone calls from aircraft because it's not supposed to work.

FORT WORTH, Texas and SAN DIEGO — July 15, 2004 — QUALCOMM Incorporated (Nasdaq: QCOM), pioneer and world leader of Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) digital wireless technology, and American Airlines, the world’s largest carrier, today successfully demonstrated in-cabin voice communications using commercially available CDMA mobile phones on a commercial American Airlines aircraft. Through the use of an in-cabin third-generation (3G ) “picocell” network, passengers on the test flight were able to place and receive calls as if they were on the ground.

The proof-of-concept demonstration flight originated out of the Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. During the approximate two-hour flight, passengers were able to place and receive phone calls and text messages on their mobile phones. Passengers included members of the media and government representatives.

http://www.qualcomm.com/press/releases/2004/040715_aa_testflight.html

You forget to mention that the same flight schools said these students were barely competent enough to fly a single engine Cessna, yet all of a sudden developed the skills to fly a complicated passenger jet and pull off manouvers that would make a seasoned jet fighter pilot proud.

Ever heard of "sandbagging"?


No. You will have to explain that particular American slag to me ;)

[Mayberry]

The experts are also baffled as to how such good quality and long lasting signals were able to be maintained at altitude and at high speed.
My understanding of cell communication is that is it a "line of sight" type system, much like VHF marine radio. The prolifetation of cell towers seems to confirm this. That being the case, it is advantageous to be at some altitude, as it increases the line of sight between the two antenna. This benefit would be negated after a point due to the low transmission power of a cell phone. Speed is irrelevant because the signal travels much faster than the aircraft. But as your quote stated, the aircraft was at a low altitude, which probably explains why the calls went through, with good quality. You will have to explain that particular American slag to me Sandbagging means holding something back. Probably dates back to early forms of racing where someone literally had sand bags, or some form of weight, to slow them down early on, to allow the wagers to raise the odds in the opponent's favor, then release the weights near the end and rush to victory.

[abaddon]

250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns'

http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

Demolition the truth of 911

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/poll_only_16_percent_believe_gov_on_911.htm

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But Islam owns every bit of 911.
2. I would think that many cars and trucks blew up during 911.
3. From fiery debris falling from the building, catching them on fire, and exploding.
4. That would explain some explosion sounds people heard during 911.
5. Also after the first tower fell, it of-course did over lay many cars and trucks, which blew up afterwards, which could of been heard, and thought to have contributed to the second towers fall.
6. Islamic Terrorists did 911, and Islam rejoiced that day, you Islamic Bastards own 911.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Saigio]

Sorry bout that,

1. But Islam owns every bit of 911.
2. I would think that many cars and trucks blew up during 911.
3. From fiery debris falling from the building, catching them on fire, and exploding.
4. That would explain some explosion sounds people heard during 911.
5. Also after the first tower fell, it of-course did over lay many cars and trucks, which blew up afterwards, which could of been heard, and thought to have contributed to the second towers fall.
6. Islamic Terrorists did 911, and Islam rejoiced that day, you Islamic Bastards own 911.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Chess, I would expect a car to blow up after being hit by a chunk of burning building!

[abaddon]

chesswarsnow ffs engage your brain !!

you say fiery debris falling on cars . what about the explosions at different levels within the towers before they collapsed as reported by the fireman and the explosions in the basement that completely destroyed a 50 ton press also numerous reports of van bombs being in the underground car parks below the towers. if u watch the video bob and bri u can clearly see an explosion on one of the sky lobby levels. in this video u can hear high explosives going off and the time is 10.20am what caused this ?????????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD4NOlUF3A4

[Achilles]

chesswarsnow ffs engage your brain !!


Abaddon, dont waste your energy on CWN. Take a look at his other threads; he doesn't back anything up, he has a thread completely devoted to "how the great CWN is always right", his words are empty shells.

Like I said, not worth your time.
Just ignore him.

[Pookie]

Well, if a bunch of burning debris landed on my car, it might blow up too. After all, I keep GAS in it. Um...sometimes. I'm trying to wean the damn thing off gas but it doesn't seem to work.
Purrs,

[abaddon]

A reported 1400 vehicles were damaged on 9/11.These vehicles had peculiar patterns of damage and some were as far away as FDR Drive (about 7 blocks from the WTC, along the East River). Vehicles had missing door handles for example, windows blown out, window frames deformed, melted engine blocks, steel-belted tires with only the steel belts left, and vehicle front ends destroyed with little or no effect on the back end of the vehicles. What could have caused such extraordinary damage? Portions of cars burned while paper nearby did not.

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam5.html

looks to me like the thermite got blown all over lower manhatten by the bombs.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911-beginners.php

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Yeah,, ( I ), *The Great CWN*, has concluded and it is FINAL, Islam did 911.
2. Its over.
3. Get over it.
4. Case closed.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[AlonzoMourning23]

Chess, where were you on 9/11?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Texas, where I live.
2. Most the time.
3. Islam will pay for 911 thousands of times over.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[AlonzoMourning23]

Sorry bout that,

1. Texas, where I live.
2. Most the time.


This is what has me concerned. Do you have any proof of that? You seem so adamant on insisting everyone else is to blame, where were you at the time?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. I was sitting in-front of a laptop in my old house, in Texas, DFW area, sipping coffee, when the phone rang.
2. My dear mother was screaming on the phone, she said to me, "Jimmy there has been a plane crash into *The World Trade Center*, buildings".
3. I said what?
4. She said, "Turn on the TV."
5. I'm still sipping my coffee, being half awake still, then I see the TV News.
6. Smoke coming from the building.
7. Then I had stopped watching the TV, went back to the computer, as I still had Mom on the phone.
8. I forgot what I was looking at online, then Dear Mom screams in my ear, "They did it again!"
9. I said what?
10. "Look at the TV, they did it again," she says.
11. "Aren't you watching the TV?"
12. "I said not just then"
13. Sure enough I missed it, Zo probably thinks seeing I didn't see the second tower being hit, I must of known it was about to happen again, eh Zo?
14. I said, "Its those Gawd Damned Terrorists Bastard Muslims!"
15. She said, "Yeah"
16. My sister calls me right after I hang up with Dear Mom.
17. She's screaming at the top of her lungs!
18. She used to live in NYC.
19. She's yelling, " Those Gawd Damned Muslims", " We need to go over there and blow the MFer's to hell!"
20. So no Zo, I wasn't in NYC, or even within 1000 miles of it, and I don't belong to a terrorist organization.
21. I hate Islam with a perfect passion, because I know the truth.
22. I sometimes live in my summer home in the Philippines.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[AlonzoMourning23]

Then I'm sure you have some evidence of that?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Hahahahahaha,..........
2. Zo can you prove where you were yesterday?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[AlonzoMourning23]

Yes, just give me till thursday when my paycheck comes out. My IP address will also verify that, as will my cell phone calls. Plus the receipts too.

Yet you can't do the same. Hm... maybe we need someone to question you. You got nothing to hide, right?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But you want to provide proof with cell phone records?
2. I got em.
3. I keep all cell phone bills.
4. And I use my cell phones everyday.
5. I'm 100% sure I can prove I was in Texas on 911, Zo.
6. No problem.
7. Just what are you getting at anyways?
8. After all my unbridled rants towards Islam, you think in the dark recesses of you're mind, that, ( I ), *The Great CWN* had something to do with 911?
9. Man, you have flipped you're lid dude-a-rooney.
10. Hehehehehehehehe,........
11. Perhaps in reality, we need to have the CIA, take a look at you, and where you were during 911???

Regards,
SirjamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

Seems like Chess was involved in 911 afterall.

[AlonzoMourning23]

Yes, he does seem very defensive. I wonder if he's ever going to show proof he was in Texas.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But don't hold you're breath.
2. Hehehehehehe,......

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[AlonzoMourning23]

Sorry bout that,

1. But don't hold you're breath.
2. Hehehehehehe,......

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


I get the feeling that if we looked into your history we'd find an unused plane ticket.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But ( I ), *The Great CWN*, thinks that you are perhaps Islamic.
2. And have ties to Al Qaeda.
3. Seeing you want to cross examine me.
4. Maybe, its you?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[AlonzoMourning23]

You didn't hold any suspicions until someone questioned you. It's a little late for that. Would you believe a murderer who suddenly accuses a cop of murder when he's arrested?

[jafar00]

Sorry bout that,

1. But ( I ), *The Great CWN*, thinks that you are perhaps Islamic.
2. And have ties to Al Qaeda.
3. Seeing you want to cross examine me.
4. Maybe, its you?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


You are so Anti-Islam I almost think YOU are Al Qaeda Chess :p

[lily]

Nailed it!:D

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. If anyone that's an American who could closely identify with attacking this Nation, its a Neolb.
2. Timmy McVeigh was one, look what he did!
3. Look at Rosie, she was constantly attacking American interests.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Achilles]

Sorry bout that,

1. If anyone that's an American who could closely identify with attacking this Nation, its a Neolb.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Ya know chess, theres no such thing as a neoliberal

[quiet man]

couldn't be farther out than if bonds hit it.

[lily]

Sorry bout that,

1. If anyone that's an American who could closely identify with attacking this Nation, its a Neolb.
2. Timmy McVeigh was one, look what he did!
3. Look at Rosie, she was constantly attacking American interests.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Well, since your meaning of neolib keeps changing to suit your needs, I thought neolibs don't serve in the army and aren't interested in guns?

[jafar00]

3. Look at Rosie, she was constantly attacking American interests.


Actually Rosie is trying to defend American interests by attacking those who's policies are bringing the once great nation to it's knees.

[Labrocca]

3. Look at Rosie, she was constantly attacking American interests.


Actually Rosie is trying to defend American interests by attacking those who's policies are bringing the once great nation to it's knees.


And which knee is that?