View Full Version : Whats The Worst Type Of Government In History?
Tyler7940
04-22-2007, 08:52 PM
What type of Government do you believe is The worst in History?If you select other, tell me what the other government is.
micfranklin
04-22-2007, 09:35 PM
A communist government would be the worst, with fascism/dictatorship in close second. More people died under commie governments than ever in history.
Buck Laser
04-22-2007, 10:05 PM
A communist government would be the worst, with fascism/dictatorship in close second. More people died under commie governments than ever in history.
So far as I know, everyone dies, regardless of the government form.:D
I'm not willing to select any form as inherently worst. A great many small societies have, in fact, been pretty successful with forms of communism. And there might even have been a theocracy somewhere that worked.
NortheastCynic
04-22-2007, 10:12 PM
In theory, an absolute monarchy is the worst form of government imaginable. The stability of the government, overall security of the country, the level of individual freedom in a country, the level of economic liberalism, EVERYTHING is dependent on one person who thinks God gave him the right to rule...Scary stuff.
In practice, fascism is the worst form of government for the obvious reason that it not only brings death to its own citizens, but it generally leads to conflict and death in other countries. It is historically the most overtly aggressive ideology in the history of government.
-NC
AlonzoMourning23
04-22-2007, 10:22 PM
I got to choose "Fudalism", since it's such an awesome sounding word!
Fudalism
Fu-dalism
Fu-dA-lism
Fu-Da-Lism
Edit: Seriously though, Fascism or Feudalism. Probably about equal, except Fascism can take more genocidal overtones, but it isn't as bad if it avoids that.
micfranklin
04-22-2007, 10:35 PM
Totalitarianism is also a pretty bad government, if I recall. [/u]
Red Dragon
04-22-2007, 11:46 PM
I'd have to say Plutocracy but fascism comes in pretty close second especially when it one applies that third position.
bobbylien
04-23-2007, 12:12 AM
I think its pretty unfair to communism and fascism that they are brought down by the likes of Hitler and Stalin. Fascism has created some very powerful countries and the cause for communism is sincere. I think their biggest flaw is that they put too much power in the hands of one person. One person just isn't capable of that much power over a long period of time. But in terms of leadership and national morale, they are unmatched. Democracy just doesn't inspire people.
I think that theocracy is absolutely the most dangerous form of government.
jafar00
04-23-2007, 04:52 AM
Fascism for sure is the worst. It leaves the ruling person with too much power and can lead to abuse of that power.
speedracer
04-23-2007, 03:07 PM
I think its pretty unfair to communism and fascism that they are brought down by the likes of Hitler and Stalin. Fascism has created some very powerful countries and the cause for communism is sincere. I think their biggest flaw is that they put too much power in the hands of one person. One person just isn't capable of that much power over a long period of time. But in terms of leadership and national morale, they are unmatched. Democracy just doesn't inspire people.
I think that theocracy is absolutely the most dangerous form of government.
Man, great post.
My only difference is that I think feudalism was the worst. I still can't believe Europe got past it. Talk smack on the capitalists all you want, they deserve credit for mothballing feudalism.
micfranklin
04-23-2007, 05:28 PM
Let me break down a few of these governments for everyone....
Fascism, as told by Dictionary.com, states that it is a government led by a dictator with complete power and forcibly suppresses all opposition and criticism and can emphasize racism. Mussolini's government was like that, and the problem with a fascist government is that there's a pretty much guarantee that power will be abused. Or as they say, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. With that, basic rights like free speech don't exist and a fascist government would actually kill you if you used that right, and throughout history that has proven to be a fact. If you don't agree with the leader, then you're in trouble and you don't want that. Simply put, a fascist government couldn't care less about your rights or principles, it's all about the power and ruling through fear, which is not the way to live in a country.
Communism can be just as bad, if not worse. Communism is a government where there are no poor or rich classes, everyone is pretty much equal. Sure, the "everyone is equal" part sounds great, but then there's also how no one has actual private property, everything is public and belongs to the government. I do believe that everyone is created equal, but when you look at it in this light, then it would seem like no one wants to be more than just average, no one wants to stand out above everyone else. Communist governments, I believe, also give out free money to people, which as much as we would all like that, can be bad because then no one wants to work hard for anything, just be spoon-fed. Also, as I stated earlier a lot of people have died under communist governments, just look at the 73 million killed under Mao Zedong or the other millions killed under Stalin.
Then there's authoritarian governments, the ones where people are under complete surveillance of the state and must obey the state lest they suffer the consequences. The problem with that is plain and simple, everyone has to do what the government says and the government regulates and control everything, kind of like North Korea. You have no rights or liberties, and someone is bound to want to disagree with the state and speak and as a result that person is bound to be killed by the government for being some kind of resistance. And again, many people have been killed under governments like this.
Tyler7940
04-23-2007, 09:00 PM
[quote=micfranklin]
Communism can be just as bad, if not worse. Communism is a government where there are no poor or rich classes, everyone is pretty much equal. Sure, the "everyone is equal" part sounds great, but then there's also how no one has actual private property, everything is public and belongs to the government. I do believe that everyone is created equal, but when you look at it in this light, then it would seem like no one wants to be more than just average, no one wants to stand out above everyone else. Communist governments, I believe, also give out free money to people, which as much as we would all like that, can be bad because then no one wants to work hard for anything, just be spoon-fed. Also, as I stated earlier a lot of people have died under communist governments, just look at the 73 million killed under Mao Zedong or the other millions killed under Stalin.
See...I disagree completely with that statement. Communisim is only bad in it's current form. The ideals of Karl Marx were great ideas however, everyone thought that communism was so great that they rushed into it overlooking some very important things in an attempt to get communisim "Out There" and therefore, they payed the consequences of having everything go wrong. Communisim in it's PURE form, Based on the ideals of Karl Marx, would undoubtedly be one of, If not the greatest form of government ever. Another factor is the leaders. Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong were insane radical dictators. It can happen with any government where one man gets too much power, even Monarchy. There are many places that have flourished under Communisim because they took time to study it and put it into practice effectively.
Stoner
04-23-2007, 09:22 PM
Actually by definition...kakistocracy would be the correct answer for the question posed.
micfranklin
04-24-2007, 03:22 AM
Based on the ideals of Karl Marx, would undoubtedly be one of, If not the greatest form of government ever.
In theory it sounds good, in practice it's terrible.
Red Dragon
04-24-2007, 03:28 AM
Actually a true marxsist goverment has never been tried in pratice. All other froms of communism are mostly based on the ideas and morales of their rulers and not Marx himself.
NortheastCynic
04-24-2007, 04:41 AM
That's because a true marxist economy is impossible to implement given natural human nature.
-NC
firefox
04-24-2007, 07:07 AM
A communist government would be the worst, with fascism/dictatorship in close second. More people died under commie governments than ever in history.
My thoughts as well. They also seem to be the most pervasive in terms of getting a multi-generational grip on their so-called citizens.
Churchel
04-25-2007, 03:11 AM
Actually by definition...kakistocracy would be the correct answer for the question posed.
The bush administration?
My vote is for religious totalitarianism. Or iraq in 5 years.
firefox
04-25-2007, 07:11 AM
Why religious? Personally, I don't care WHY a government does what it does, only that it does it. However, specific means tend to have predictable ends and vice versa.
Buck Laser
04-26-2007, 03:21 AM
Why religious? Personally, I don't care WHY a government does what it does, only that it does it. However, specific means tend to have predictable ends and vice versa.
The world standard for cruelty in religious government was probably established in the 15th century when the Spanish Christians ejected the Muslims from Spain. Then they ejected the Jews, who had been tolerated during Islamic rule. Then they started the Spanish Inquisition, just to make sure the Jews weren't just pretending to have converted.
The protestant reformation wasn't really any better than the Spanish Inquisition, and the Catholics' counter reformation was worse. Theocracies have established themselves firmly and irreplacably as the WORST forms of government. Even anarchy isn't as bad.
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