Liberal parenting skills at work

[Stoner]

Kind of disgusting to be honest with you. Here's a man who needs to be beaten on the head with a bowling ball about 17,048 times.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwins-threatening-message-to-daughter

[Kallisti]

Conservative values at work

http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Lou_Beres.htm

http://www.armchairsubversive.com/

Oregon Christian leader admitted touching girls, report says

GRESHAM, Ore. (AP) -- The longtime leader of the Oregon Christian Coalition admitted in a newly released police report that he had sexually touched three underage girls years ago, despite denials to a newspaper.

Lou Beres denied sexual molestation allegations when The Oregonian first reported them last October.

But a Gresham Police Department report released as part of a lawsuit said Beres "readily admitted sexually touching" one girl when she was 13 or 14 years old. He also acknowledged sexually touching a 16- or 17-year-old friend of his daughter's in 1976 or 1977.

Last fall, Gresham police investigated allegations Beres had molested underage family members.

But Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Shrunk said the statute of limitations would bar any charges because the allegations occurred so long ago.

In March, Beres, 70, was sued in Multnomah County Circuit Court for $2.1 million by a relative who said he molested her repeatedly between 1963 and 1966.

The Oregonian said Beres did not return a phone call Tuesday. His attorney, John Kaempf, told the newspaper the statements attributed to Beres by the police were not accurate.

Beres told police that he had received counseling through his church and admitted his mistakes years ago, according to the Gresham police report.

However, other relatives expressed concern to police that the abuse continued for several years through more than one generation of the family, according to the report.

In a telephone call with an investigator, Beres "made admissions to three separate victims at three different times," the police report said. "All involved underage females. The offenses ranged from kissing to touching the breast of an underage girl.

Beres identified the victims as his sister-in-law and two friends of his daughters, said one of the investigators, said Detective Lee Gosson of Multnomah County Sheriff's Department.

"It should be noted that Mr. Beres said his activities with the girls were in a playful fashion," Gosson said. "I told him that the acts were sexual and he agreed."

Kaempf said that in addition to disputing the statements in the police report, Beres also denied the allegations in the lawsuit. A hearing is scheduled next month on a motion by Kaempf to dismiss the lawsuit.

Last fall, Beres said he would withdraw from public life while he fought the allegations. However, as late as last week, records show that he signed a $50 check on the Oregon Christian Coalition checking account to renew the group's business registration with the state.

When asked about Beres' relationship with the Oregon Christian Coalition, Kaempf said Beres would ask the coalition to "file the necessary paperwork with the state to formalize Mr. Beres' resignation as its chairman."

Michele Combs, spokeswoman for the national office of the Christian Coalition, told The Oregonian that she would check on Beres' status with the group but failed to provide an answer Tuesday and could not be reached in subsequent phone calls.

The Oregon Christian Coalition shut its office last year and does not appear to have any paid staff here.

Tim Nashif of the Oregon Family Council, another conservative Christian group, said the coalition is "not doing anything" in the state as far as he can see.

Nashif noted that Beres, once active in Republican politics, got almost no support when he tried to win a seat on the Republican National Commi

[Elrathin]

Kind of disgusting to be honest with you. Here's a man who needs to be beaten on the head with a bowling ball about 17,048 times.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwins-threatening-message-to-daughter


Hmmmm so Baldwin's parenting is what ALL liberals do huh? What a r.etarded title you have to this thread. Typical r.etarded conservative venom, but not surprising.

[Labrocca]

This is lunacy. All I see are righties attacking Baldwin over this simply because he is an outspoken liberal. Do I like Baldwin..nope. But as a parent you sometimes get pissed at your kids. I listened to that diatribe at least 5 times. Yeah it's not pleasant but it's not criminal and imho it's not abuse. He isn't threatening her with any violence either.

In all honesty 100% I am sure if this was a Conservative instead of a Liberal many of you would be in reverse positions on this. It's disgusting imho. I am starting to seriously consider dropping my own party affilation to Republicans and just being an Independent. Has all reason and logic simply turned into partisan views?

[ticbeast]

I agree with Labrocca. Threads like this appear to have little intention other than bashing a certain ideology.

[sbannon]

Well said Labrocca! This has nothing to do with liberalism, just as it wouldn't be about conservatism had it been Tom Beringer ranting. It's a guy who 'lost it' with his kid, period.

If we all tried to keep an honest perspective of things it might just lead to more meaningful discussions.

[ECW]

Any parent who hasn't "lost it" with an adolescent child, has a child who is a total brat. If Stoner would have done his homework, he would have discovered that the child was supposed to be by her phone at a set time every week to talk with her dad as per previously arrainged commitments. She failed to be there on numerous occasions giving the lamest of excuses. He had a right to blow up at her.

How come you didn't criticize Ms Basinger and her Liberal politics? She is at fault here as well. How do you think the tape got released? What about her sorry parenting skills?

I think, quite frankly, the bowling ball you mentioned is a metaphor for your head and it is quickly rolling into the gutter. Pathetic.