View Full Version : McCain shoots himself in the foot again
AlonzoMourning23
04-20-2007, 02:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
Bless you Zo.......I was in the kitchen when they played this on the news and I missed it.
CheesyMuslim
04-20-2007, 02:17 AM
Sorry bout that,
1. But I always disliked John McCain.
2. What a loser.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
NortheastCynic
04-20-2007, 02:28 AM
McCain is an idiot and socially inept, this isn't a surprise. What is a surprise is that Chess hasn't blamed this incident on the Muslims...
-NC
He's betting his entire campaign on Bush. Considering what has happened in the past, I can't believe he would do this. It's a gutsy call, but then what does he have to lose?
bobbylien
04-20-2007, 01:18 PM
I've been watching him align himself with Bush for months now. I'm really starting to lose faith in him. I liked him mostly because he was still somewhat independent. Also because he might think twice about sending troops into foreign countries being that he actually served in the armed forces.
wonder cow
04-20-2007, 03:12 PM
He's lost his mind.
speedracer
04-20-2007, 03:27 PM
What lily said. Also, what wonder cow said.
Pookie
04-27-2007, 12:53 AM
Oh geez! Way to go, McCain, you dingbat! That's a little scary.
Purrs,
I hope they ask him about this next week in the Republican debates.
Mayberry
04-27-2007, 02:18 PM
McCain is a moron, he'll never get the nomination. Not that any of the other candidates are much better. Sad to say, but I think Fred Thompson is the best chance the Rebublicans have. I might just have to throw my vote away on a Libertarian this time (sorry 'Fox). Juliani (sp?) is no conservative, but at least he seems to have the stones to stand up against the left and finish the job in Iraq. Maybe he'd get my vote just for that reason, but I don't know if that's enough for me.
Labrocca
04-27-2007, 08:22 PM
Giuliani IS a conservative. He ran NYC very very well...he certainly didn't spend tax payer money with impunity. The city prospered under Giuliani.
Drocket
04-27-2007, 10:13 PM
Giuliani IS a conservative. He ran NYC very very well...he certainly didn't spend tax payer money with impunity. The city prospered under Giuliani.
It's pretty questionable as to how well the city 'prospered'. The only area that Giuliani has really been able to point to as a success under his reign was the reduction in crime - except that virtually every other major city in America had a *bigger* reduction in crime than NYC during the same time period. Beyond that, Giuliani's term was pretty much a continuous string of public relations disasters and fraud cases. For a man who 'ran NYC very very well', he's remarkably unpopular there. Quite frankly, I think about 99.9% of his popularity is because of 9/11: much like Bush, he received way more credit than he deserved simply because he was there and made a few speeches. Unlike Bush, and much to his advantage, he's been out of the news enough that most people don't really know much of anything about beyond 9/11, and don't know they don't like him. Yes.
As for his conservative credentials: he recently restated his believe in taxpayer funded abortion. (http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/04/giuliani-stands-by-support-of-publicly.html) Talk about shooting yourself in the foot... When you're running as a conservative Republican, that's more like nuking your campaign from orbit.
AlonzoMourning23
04-28-2007, 12:47 AM
I hope giuliani wins the republican primary. It will demoralize the conservatives base.
Labrocca
04-28-2007, 12:50 AM
Drocket...are you a NYer? Have you lived in the city? I was there for 15 years 1/2 of which was under Giuliani. I was there for his full term. The city did incredibly well financially in those years. The city was a crime ridden broke ass city with ghettos at every corner. He did incredible good for education system there too.
btw..I agree with everything Giuliani said in that CNN article. You have to respect a man that doesn't agree with abortion yet is willing to adhere to the constitution and our laws. I would think would be an important quality in a presidential candidate. Giuliani ran NYC better than any mayor since Laguardia. There was not a single race riot. That alone says a great deal.
Drocket..I read the NY Times every single day during the entire Giuliani administration..he was hated by the left that's true but so is anyone with the R next to their name. He was viewed as nazi by the Village Voice for his crack down on homeless and street vendors. However...it worked. The city became clean once again...then the tourists came...along with money and a better reputation. He handled small crisis very well like the Abner Louima problem which the asshole victim claimed "It's Giuliani Time" but later recanted that as a false statement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima
No riots...bad cops convicted swiftly. Volpe got 30 years for it.
Exactly in your view what was the bad part of his time as mayor?[hr]
I hope giuliani wins the republican primary. It will demoralize the conservatives base.
If that's true then so if Hillary Clinton is she wins DEMS primary. The liberal base will freak out.
I don't agree that the base will be demoralized if Giuliani wins the ticket.
AlonzoMourning23
04-28-2007, 01:07 AM
I think the liberal base is split on hillary. But I also think the liberal base is more willing to compromise than the evangelicals that form the bulk of the republican base.
Drocket
04-28-2007, 02:00 AM
Nope, I don't live in NYC. I do, however, pay attention, and I've noticed that Giuliani hasn't been able to find a single major NYC group that supports him. Probably the most notable was the NYC fireman organization which came out against him. Giuliani immediate claimed that that was because they were some sort of far-left liberal organization - and then someone noticed that they supported Bush in 2000 and 2004. Some far-left liberal organization they got there...
Yes, the economy in NYC went up under Giuliani, and crime went down - but that was true of EVERYWHERE in America. That's just what happens when the economy booms. As I already said, Giuliani has bosted a few times about reducing crime, but the reduction in crime was actually LESS than the reduction in most of the rest of the country. That's not something to boast about, but he doesn't really seem to have anything else...
If Giuliani wins the Republican nomination, I don't think it'll demoralize the Republican base: I think it'll shatter it. The Republican party has for 30 years been the anti-abortion party. The party's core base is the anti-abortion movement. If a pro-choice candidate like Giuliani wins, I think it's going to be considered such a MASSIVE betrayal by so many in the Republican base, it's going to take a decade, or more, to even begin to pull the shards of the party back together. He's not going to win, though - not a chance in hell - so that's not really something to be worthy of real consideration, though.
Regarding Hillary: I find it extremely amusing that how she's portrayed by conservatives depends entirely on how it'll be advantatious to conservatives. Somehow she manages to swing wildly between being a radical leftist idealogue to being a conservative suck-up, often multiple times per day, according to Fox. Whatever.
Marley
06-21-2007, 01:52 PM
RUDY!
RUDY!
RUDY!
I live in the mid-Altantic region and make it to NYC once or twice a year for either business or pleasure.
Rudy turned NYC from "The Jungle" to Disneyland, an incredible feat.
Working uphill all the way I might add, sheer, raw, executive prowess with almost the entire damned entiy under him adverse to him.
Here's the bumper sticker:
IF HE CAN DO FOR THE USA WHAT HE DID FOR NYC, RUDY IS MY MAN.
McCain is a doofus, he exhibits classic "Stockholm syndrom" as a Republican Senator in the Democrat society inside the Beltway, I shutter to think of the truth of his time in Vietnamese captivity.
Marley
06-21-2007, 01:54 PM
And I don't get this "social issue" schtick about Rudy.
I'm voting for President, not Pope.
The Ralph Reed Evangelicals will have to suck it up like Black Americans do with Democrats, what are the Religious Right going to do? Vote for Hitlery instead? LOL
Marley
06-21-2007, 01:56 PM
RE: Hitlery
It's easy, she is indeed a hard leftist.
Think "Stalin."
Buck Laser
06-21-2007, 03:57 PM
RE: Hitlery
It's easy, she is indeed a hard leftist.
Think "Stalin."
Y'know, this looks a lot like the old tactics of the German propaganda machine in the 30s: "repeat a lie long enough and loud enough, and pretty soon, people begin to believe it."
Of course, the right is doing the same thing about global warming, and the results will ultimately be disastrous. But I guess we have to protect the rights of people to kill themselves by destroying their environment. That's the American way after all.
Marley
06-21-2007, 05:29 PM
"It Takes a Village" is pure collectivist socialism, AKA leftist.
It's easy calling another man a liar anonymously over the internet, isn't it?
Buck Laser
06-21-2007, 10:22 PM
"It Takes a Village" is pure collectivist socialism, AKA leftist.
It's easy calling another man a liar anonymously over the internet, isn't it?
Y'know, that's a damned thin justification for calling Sen. Clinton a socialist. Can't you do any better?
I thought not.
And what's this "anonymous" shit?
preservanation
07-16-2007, 08:35 PM
“I want to take those profits and put them into an alternative energy fund that will begin to fund alternative smart energy alternatives that will actually begin to move us toward the direction of independence.â€
-Hillary Clinton
Rings the bell of socialism at my State Fair.
Marley
07-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Mine too!
Mayberry
07-16-2007, 09:37 PM
Hillary is a socialist through and through. Look at her voting record. Listen to her speeches (if you can stand that nag voice long enough), and read anything she's written about her policies. Pure socialism.
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