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Alonzo
04-18-2007, 08:23 PM
E-mails are circulating around the world, claiming the UK has banned the teaching of the Holocaust in schools.
The false suggestion is that the action has been taken by the government to avoid offending Muslim communities.

The source of the rumour may be a report that some history teachers were uncomfortable with sensitive subjects.

In fact the government has reaffirmed that in England, teaching children about the Holocaust is compulsory, and it is not banned elsewhere in the UK.

A number of people have contacted the BBC News website querying e-mails they have been sent.

One example is headed "In Memoriam".

It says: "Recently this week, UK removed The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offended' the Moslem population which claims it never occurred.

It adds: "This is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it."

'Emotive'

The report that may have given rise to the alarm was commissioned by England's Department for Education and Skills from the Historical Association, which promotes the study and teaching of history.

It said: "Teachers and schools avoid emotive and controversial history for a variety of reasons, some of which are well-intentioned.

"Staff may wish to avoid causing offence or appearing insensitive to individuals or groups in their classes.

"In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship."

'Holocaust denial'

The report gave as an example a history department in "a northern city" which "recently avoided selecting the Holocaust as a topic for GCSE coursework for fear of confronting anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils".

The government said there was scope for schools to make their own decisions on what to teach within England's national curriculum.

But a spokesman for England's Department for Education and Skills added: "Teaching of the Holocaust is already compulsory in schools at Key Stage 3 [ages 11 to 14].

"It will remain so in the new KS3 curriculum from September 2008."

He said Education Secretary Alan Johnson himself had stressed this.

There are separate national curriculums in Wales and in Northern Ireland, and 5-14 Guidelines in Scotland.

In those, Holocaust teaching is not compulsory but schools may teach it if they wish and this has not changed recently.

In Northern Ireland, for example, the Holocaust is given as an example of some of the things pupils "should" study.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6563429.stm

wonder cow
04-18-2007, 10:41 PM
Nasty little rumors like this spread so easily, pushed by fear mongers and bigots.

BoogyMan
04-18-2007, 10:44 PM
We had a thread regarding this at:

http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=4267

It was based on a story published by the UK Daily Mail.

Alonzo
04-19-2007, 12:58 AM
It's the result of that topic, but the topic is about the false rumors being spread and the harm it may cause, not about the report itself.

Caravaggio
04-19-2007, 01:59 AM
False reports used to demonize Muslims

Why would we need a "False Report" to demonize them...with suicide bombings and sawing off heads they have made their case clear.

Elrathin
04-19-2007, 02:18 AM
Why would we need a "False Report" to demonize them...with suicide bombings and sawing off heads they have made their case clear.


Yes because that is what ALL Muslims do right? Can your statement be anymore ignorant?

Caravaggio
04-19-2007, 03:02 AM
Why would we need a "False Report" to demonize them...with suicide bombings and sawing off heads they have made their case clear.


Yes because that is what ALL Muslims do right? Can your statement be anymore ignorant?




Oh...I forgot ... the MSM Muslim condemnation of those acts!!!!!

jafar00
04-19-2007, 10:54 AM
Why would we need a "False Report" to demonize them...with suicide bombings and sawing off heads they have made their case clear.


Yes because that is what ALL Muslims do right? Can your statement be anymore ignorant?




Oh...I forgot ... the MSM Muslim condemnation of those acts!!!!!


http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=356773&rel_no=1
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
http://archive.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/2005/9/26/88548.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/28/national/main712548.shtml

Here is just a few random samplings from a simple Google search. Muslims condemning terrorism, suicide bombings etc..
You need to get out more :p

Caravaggio
04-20-2007, 09:37 PM
Why would we need a "False Report" to demonize them...with suicide bombings and sawing off heads they have made their case clear.


Yes because that is what ALL Muslims do right? Can your statement be anymore ignorant?




Oh...I forgot ... the MSM Muslim condemnation of those acts!!!!!


http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=356773&rel_no=1
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
http://archive.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/2005/9/26/88548.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/28/national/main712548.shtml

Here is just a few random samplings from a simple Google search. Muslims condemning terrorism, suicide bombings etc..
You need to get out more :p



If the terrorist were christian`s there would be mass marching in the streets by christians to stop it....the only time muslims gather in the street is to celebrate acts like 9/11.

Alonzo
04-20-2007, 09:40 PM
Yes, because I saw many mass demonstrations by pro-lifers denouncing clinic bombings.

Caravaggio
04-20-2007, 10:02 PM
Yes, because I saw many mass demonstrations by pro-lifers denouncing clinic bombings.


How wide spread is that now...how many legitimate Church leaders condoned it? Your equating some fringe elements of the Christan right to a world wide muslim terrorist campaign is ridiculous. People like you always see a small loop hole to justify plain brute evil in your sad attempt to promote multiculturalism.

Buck Laser
04-20-2007, 10:10 PM
Yes, because I saw many mass demonstrations by pro-lifers denouncing clinic bombings.


How wide spread is that now...how many legitimate Church leaders condoned it? Your equating some fringe elements of the Christan right to a world wide muslim terrorist campaign is ridiculous. People like you always see a small loop hole to justify plain brute evil in your sad attempt to promote multiculturalism.

Ah. So we come to the real root of Carvaggio's worries. multiculturalism:P :D

Alonzo
04-20-2007, 10:37 PM
How wide spread is that now...

More widespread as the pro-life rallies denouncing it were, since they actually happen.

how many legitimate Church leaders condoned it?

Yet you don't even question the legitimacy or reputation of any muslim who says these things.

Your equating some fringe elements of the Christan right to a world wide muslim terrorist campaign is ridiculous.

I see. I didn't know violent pro-lifers, and their supporters, were purely an american phenomenon.

People like you always see a small loop hole to justify plain brute evil in your sad attempt to promote multiculturalism.


Yes, I'm am working hard on gaining support for my evil plan: Muslims marrying Christians. Horrific isn't it?

Caravaggio
04-20-2007, 10:39 PM
Yes, because I saw many mass demonstrations by pro-lifers denouncing clinic bombings.


How wide spread is that now...how many legitimate Church leaders condoned it? Your equating some fringe elements of the Christan right to a world wide muslim terrorist campaign is ridiculous. People like you always see a small loop hole to justify plain brute evil in your sad attempt to promote multiculturalism.

Ah. So we come to the real root of Carvaggio's worries. multiculturalism:P :D



Multiculturalism is a bad thing when it is forced upon a host culture for PC reasons for people that refuse to acknowledge and recognize the culture that they are to assimilate into.

P.S. your party affiliation says Republican..is that a joke?...shouldn`t it be Birkenstock wearing Liberal Weenie!

Buck Laser
04-20-2007, 10:48 PM
Yes, because I saw many mass demonstrations by pro-lifers denouncing clinic bombings.


How wide spread is that now...how many legitimate Church leaders condoned it? Your equating some fringe elements of the Christan right to a world wide muslim terrorist campaign is ridiculous. People like you always see a small loop hole to justify plain brute evil in your sad attempt to promote multiculturalism.

Ah. So we come to the real root of Carvaggio's worries. multiculturalism:P :D

Multiculturalism is a bad thing when it is forced upon a host culture for PC reasons for people that refuse to acknowledge and recognize the culture that they are to assimilate into.

P.S. your party affiliation says Republican..is that a joke?...shouldn`t it be Birkenstock wearing Liberal Weenie!

I guess I yam what I yam. You got a problem with that?

Caravaggio
04-20-2007, 10:52 PM
How wide spread is that now...

More widespread as the pro-life rallies denouncing it were, since they actually happen.

how many legitimate Church leaders condoned it?

Yet you don't even question the legitimacy or reputation of any muslim who says these things.

Your equating some fringe elements of the Christan right to a world wide muslim terrorist campaign is ridiculous.

I see. I didn't know violent pro-lifers, and their supporters, were purely an american phenomenon.

People like you always see a small loop hole to justify plain brute evil in your sad attempt to promote multiculturalism.


Yes, I'm am working hard on gaining support for my evil plan: Muslims marrying Christians. Horrific isn't it?


More widespread as the pro-life rallies denouncing it were, since they actually happen.

How many people were killed in these bombing...were these bombers part of a legitimate Christian Church..name some legitimate Christian leaders that praised them?

Yet you don't even question the legitimacy or reputation of any muslim who says these things.

They are the faces of the Muslim religion as the world sees it now days...why don`t the Muslim Gandhi or Martin Luther King`s speak out against these terrorist..my guess is because there are none,


I see. I didn't know violent pro-lifers, and their supporters, were purely an american phenomenon.

They get most of the press

Caravaggio
04-20-2007, 10:56 PM
I guess I yam what I yam. You got a problem with that?

O.K. Popeye......."I`m no physicist but I knows what matters"

Haaaaaaaa.....Haaaaaaa...