The next step in environmental politics

[Anti-Racism]

We all know that if our society is to survive, we need to get rid of global warming.

But what brought us global warming? Industry brings profit to businesses, and individuals "feel" better about themselves for making money. They're afraid of cultural consensus against reckless profit, because it might leave them without a reason to feel proud of themselves.

Even more, modern life is tedious. You no longer grow up to a safe position in a society that has a values system whatsoever. Now, you're fodder for competition in the corporate culture, and have to struggle to keep your head above water.

And the environment? As humanity expands, and each wants a car and house and color TV, the amount of free land decreases and pollution increases. It will never end, because there's no leadership that has the guts to say "stop."

Our leadership of course is terrible, because it's a popularity contest, and people vote by what they see in 30-second clips on TV. No complex issues are discussed.

We have either a future of cultureless, rootless, brainless corporate slavery, or a chance to reverse the process, but I don't believe it's going to happen through organizations whose only active concern is global warming. Rather, we need a mainstream movement that wants to remake society entirely.

We're not liberals. We're not conservatives. We're elements of both. Even more, it's time to come out of the closet and take on all these issues, not just global warming. And when we take on environmental issues, we should use the honest argument: we want to preserve our culture because culture is all that saves us from the imperialism of the marketplace.

Environmentalism in itself isn't a new social design, or a plan. We need a clear plan that we can communicate through mainstream politics and get others on board. Thinking people who care about the environment are still a majority in this country. We should stop feeling sorry for ourselves, stop being "revolutionaries" on internet message boards, and start speaking plainly in the public light.

(Written by Alex Birch of CORRUPT (http://www.corrupt.org/goal) organisation.)

[Labrocca]

Even more, modern life is tedious. You no longer grow up to a safe position in a society that has a values system whatsoever. Now, you're fodder for competition in the corporate culture, and have to struggle to keep your head above water.

I don't see how life is any worse than it was 200 or 500 years ago when much of the world was still in the class system and people were slaves. There was royalty and peasants in most places not too long ago. So today we are born in America with a chance to rise above all that.

I am not sure how old you are but environmentalism isn't something new. When I was a kid in the 70s there was a lot of commercials devoted to the environment with kid friendly bears like "Smokey" and his slogan "Only you can prevent forest fires". IMHO it's my generation that grew up with this ideal that we must protect the environment. The 60s generation was all about free love and peace. The 70s were pretty much a hangover from the 60s. Then the 80s came and the kids that grew up from F-up high dysfunctional parents of the 60s wanted more out of life than "peace and love" because that's just bullcrap. The 80's and 90's raised kids to be corporate out of rebelliousness (odd as that sounds). I can't speak for the kids of today (except for my own) but they seem at odds with their surroundings (I realize that can describe every generation).

Liberals are shaping a generation back into a hippie mentality that anything goes sexually, that drugs are acceptable, and that we must protect the environment above all else. I predict in 15-20 years again...there will be a price to pay for that mentality. This time it's not vietnam...this time it's more serious. Iran is headed toward nukes..I wonder how good our environment will be after a couple go off in our back yards. Now that's global warming!

One thing I do agree on is that the environment isn't a conservative or liberal issue...however the politicians use the environment to score political points (Al Gore anyone?).

We all know that if our society is to survive, we need to get rid of global warming.

I don't believe that as true...I don't like when I am spoken for. I have my own voice. We all do not know that to survive we need to rid ourselves of global warming. As far as I can tell a few degrees has only raised my energy costs to run my AC...it's hasn't killed me and I don't feel my survival nor my 4 childrens survival depends on it. There is also the assumption that we can even do something about global warming. It assumes we as humans are the cause hence we humans can correct it. Neither imho is true.

[Stoner]

We all know that if our society is to survive, we need to get rid of global warming.



Global warming was hear before man and will be here after man. The earth gets warmer and cooler naturally. Man has little to no affect on it.

So, "we" don't need to do anything but sit back and enjoy life.

[bobbylien]

Global warming was hear before man and will be here after man. The earth gets warmer and cooler naturally. Man has little to no affect on it.

So, "we" don't need to do anything but sit back and enjoy life.

For the 50th time... nobody has suggested that global warming was anything new. The principle argument of the man-made global warming theory is that our fossil fuels have/are contributing to the problem. Though I am suprised you have stopped denying its existance entirely.

One thing I do agree on is that the environment isn't a conservative or liberal issue...however the politicians use the environment to score political points (Al Gore anyone?).
If the conservatives were doing anything at all for the environment, Al Gore wouldn't have such a monopoly on it. It is downright shameful to waste our national resources the way we do.

Modern Republicans are taking the conserve out of conservative. Look at Teddy Roosevelt, he was one of the great environmentalists of the 19th century. Now we have politicians who only care about themselves.