Why are liberals above the law?

[Rightlane]

Mary Landrieu threatens to punch President Bush
Cynthia McKinney punches Capital Hill officer
Bill Clinton assaults a campaign workerI thought these people were members of the "peace generation."Â*Â*You know, "Make love, not war."Â*Â*"Give peace a chance." Etc.

What's going on with these liberals?Â*Â*Hmmm ...

There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear.

;)

[Labrocca]

Another double standard. This type of thing is media controlled. I am still flabbergasted that Cynthua McKinney wasn't arrested. They should release the video tape.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Forget this stuff, it's minor.

I want to know why Clinton wasn't hauled in for allowing Loreal to transfer satellite and rocket technology to China that is dual use for nuclear weapons programs.Â*Â*I'd like to know why Algore wasn't charged with accepting illegal campaign funds at a Buddhist temple then cried "No controlling legal authority." as if that okayed it.Â*Â*I'd like to know why Harry Reid isn't called on the carpet for shaking down the same indian tribes Jack Abramoff went and had give money to Republicans too.Â*Â*I'd like to know why Barbara Boxer is so in favor of union rights and benefits yet her and her husband's business holdings forbid union membership.Â*Â*I'd like to know why Democrats bitch about the price of oil and haul in industry executives and humiliate them for being capitalists yet refuse domestic drilling in ANWAR, 120+ miles off the Florida coast and production of oil shale in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado that would produce more oil than Saudi Arabia has.Â*Â*Attached to that I'd like to know why we have 35+ grades of gasoline nationwide instead of one environmental standard, can't build any refineries and can't get approval for new nuclear power plants.

Last but not least on my rant about energy. If liberals care so damn much about the price of oil why not suspend or lower the 45 cents a gallon in federal taxes? The American people go without or make tough financial choices but the hogs in congress never think that government should be faced to make the same financial decisions we do every single day.

I could write a book on all the laws Congress has exempted themselves from that they impose on the rest of us. Let alone their pay, benefit and entitlement/retirement packages lavished upon themselves.

Yes, liberals are the horses ass all around.Â*Â*No ifs, ands or buts but the small things you listed are nothing compared to the civilization destroying things they're either against or endorse.

[sbannon]

First, to complain about liberals blocking new drilling efforts is simply a short sited perspective, though I rarely see better from the right.

Putting aside the environmental impacts of both drilling and then burning fossil fuels, what practical sense does it make to continue depending upon an energy source that is going to run out (no doubts about this, it's a limited supply substance) -- and can be replaced with other renewable and reusable sources?

This isn't a political debate, it's not 'evil liberals' attacking good conservatives and big business, it's basic math and common sense. Oil is a finite resource, when it's reduced to zero there will be no more. Why stay on such a collision course when doing so ensures that the inevitable switch down the road will be rushed and thus more costly to everyone, and in the mean while continues to support terrorism around the globe?

Oh, I know why, for profits...

And just for kicks, lets be fair and acknowledge that the most vocal Senator in the PR campaigns against the oil companies has been and still is (I saw him on the news again tonight) Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania.

[Alonzo]

I'd like to know why Algore wasn't charged with accepting illegal campaign funds at a Buddhist temple then cried "No controlling legal authority." as if that okayed it.Â*

There were two separate arrangements that day but due to time constraints they were made into one. Gore was not informed of this. There were no solicitations at the event and no mention of fundraising activity was made in gore's presence.



The tribes gave money to abramoff because abramoff promised the tribes that he could get beneficial results for tribe. One was essentially a bribe, one was not. Simply recieving funds from the tribe was not the issue.

[quote]Â*I'd like to know why Democrats bitch about the price of oil and haul in industry executives and humiliate them for being capitalists yet refuse domestic drilling in ANWAR, 120+ miles off the Florida coast and production of oil shale in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado that would produce more oil than Saudi Arabia has.Â*

You act as if only one issue is ever important. There's a lot of things you can do if you adopt a "damn the consequences" approach. But such drilling raises tremendous environmental issues and infringes upon another position strongly held by many liberals. Â*

Attached to that I'd like to know why we have 35+ grades of gasoline nationwide instead of one environmental standard

I don't think liberals would mind have one, national, strict environmental standard.

can't build any refineries and can't get approval for new nuclear power plants.

That damn environment again.

If liberals care so damn much about the price of oil why not suspend or lower the 45 cents a gallon in federal taxes?Â*Â*The American people go without or make tough financial choices but the hogs in congress never think that government should be faced to make the same financial decisions we do every single day.

We are in debt as it is, taking that much out of taxes will make it worse. And besides, it's a short term solution. We need to cut back our use of oil, dropping the price 45 cents will simply increase the demand for oil.

Yes, liberals are the horses ass all around. No ifs, ands or buts but the small things you listed are nothing compared to the civilization destroying things they're either against or endorse.

The term Anti-Christ would have summed up that entire statement.

[Alonzo]

Mary Landrieu threatens to punch President Bush

A popular boston area onservative talk show host Jay Severin once called for the execution of bill clinton, while clinton was in office. He had previously worked for the GOP. If you remember clintons days in office, that wasn't such a unique comment.

Cynthia McKinney punches Capital Hill officer

If I remember correctly, they are investigating whether to charge her, and the report lists it as an assault on an officer. They aren't required to officially charge everyone, and they don't.

Bill Clinton assaults a campaign worker

?

[Rightlane]

Another double standard.Â*Â*This type of thing is media controlled.Â*Â*I am still flabbergasted that Cynthua McKinney wasn't arrested.Â*Â*They should release the video tape.


She should have been arrested on the spot. Who hits an officer and walks away?

[Rightlane]

Bill Clinton assaults a campaign worker?
Juanita Broaddrick in 1978

[Alonzo]

I don't think you want to talk about clintons past, considering all the free passes prominent republicans got in their younger days. The list grows when we get into things bush was accused of, which is what the broaddrick incident is. It's an unsubstantiated accusation. She even filed a sworn affidavit stating that this event never happened during the paula jones case, and can't even name the month it occured.

Besides, if you accept that then you have to wonder why Reagan got a free pass too. He was accused of raping Selene Walters in 1952.

All these things could have happened, but no one will ever know. And after experiencing things such as satanic ritual abuse, and watching families torn apart needlessly, we must be very skeptical whenever accusations occur about events that occured long ago. Quite often the accuser genuinely believes it's true, but that doesn't mean it is.

Also I want to apologize for accidentally editing your previous post. I accidentally hit edit instead of quote. I believe I returned it to its original state.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

4 sentenced to jail for tire slashings

Tossing aside a plea agreement that called for probation, Milwaukee Circuit Court Judge Michael Brennan sentenced four Democratic Party workers today to jail for slashing the tires of 25 vans rented by Republicans to take voters to polls for the 2004 presidential election.

Calling the vandalism more than harmless hijinks, Brennan admonished the four men, including the sons of two prominent Milwaukee politicians, for disenfranchising voters. The judge said he had received letters from Milwaukee County citizens upset over the crime.

"They see you tampering with something they consider sacred and that's the ballot box," Brennan said during a two-hour sentencing this morning.

Michael Pratt, 33, and Lewis Caldwell, 29, were each sentenced to six months in jail while Lavelle Mohammad, 36, got five months and Sowande Omokunde, 26, got four months. Each was also fined $1,000. They will be eligible for work release and were allowed to surrender to begin their sentences within two weeks.

Pratt is the son of former Acting Mayor Marvin Pratt and Omokunde is the son of U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.)

A plea deal was reached in January as a jury appeared deadlocked in a case that received national attention. Four of the five defendants agreed to plead no contest to misdemeanor charges instead of the original felony property damage counts. A fifth Kerry-Edwards staffer accused of crippling Republican vans, Justin Howell, 21, turned down the last-minute deal and was acquitted by the jury.
Link (http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=4/26/2006&id=5299)

Looks like the Milwuakee tire slashers are actually going to serve time. I thought they'd be brushed off with a fine and community service.

Funny how this incident took 16 months to work it's way from arrest to conviction.

[Rightlane]

Notice Democrats don't want to talk about the money THEY have taken from Abramoff.Â*Â*

So for those not aware of the Democrats' involvement, see the list here --

http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=6089

[Alonzo]

Reid is also on record of opposing positions abramoff supported. Reid aided abramoffs clients, there's nothing illegal in that. You can't say anyone associated with the tribes was engaged in illegal activity, as working with the tribes is not the issue.

Though you might want to use less biased sources, things like gop, frontpageman, indymedia, counterpunch etc. are little more than entertainment. They repeatedly skew reality beyond recognition.

[sbannon]

Okay, folks on the right have to quit grabbing for these straws... the facts are out there and the difference between Democrat's dealings with Abramoff as opposed to Republican's was that there are direct connections between 'gifts' and legislation/votes with Republicans that doesn't exist with the Democrats. Not one.

I'm not saying Democrats are innocent do-gooders in Washington by any means, but in this case there isn't a single piece of evidence that Abramoff influenced any Democratic legislation or votes.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

So they just took his cash and gave him no consideration?

Dude, you have no idea how Congress works.

Go back to never neverland, or democraticunderground.com, where people will believe that Democrats are pure as the wind driven snow when it comes to special interest money and it's the Republicans that are corrupt.

[Alonzo]

So they just took his cash and gave him no consideration?

Dude, you have no idea how Congress works.

Go back to never neverland, or democraticunderground.com, where people will believe that Democrats are pure as the wind driven snow when it comes to special interest money and it's the Republicans that are corrupt.


Show where there is evidence reid was involved in illegal activity, and not just a relationship with the same client. .

[sbannon]

Dude... I have a vast understanding of how government works, and yes, they took gifts without reciprocating. That happens with about half of lobbyists' efforts in Washington.

On every issue there are special interest groups on both sides trying to sway legislation and votes in their favor, politicians are courted by lobbyists of those groups from both sides all the time but ultimately can only go one way or the other. So, when they go left, the groups from the right have provided gifts for nothing in return and vice-versa.

If you'll bother to read and comprehend my previous post you'll see that I in-fact said Democrats aren't innocent and pure, they're just not guilty in this specific case.

If you have a single fact to prove otherwise I'd love to see it.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

They all took money from Abramoff. Democrats and Republicans. Harry Reid included.

If you want to talk "culture of corruption" fine, the Democratic leader on the Ethics Committee had to step down due to.... alleged corruption.

Pointing out one lobbyist, one issue where someone has the upper hand is ridiculous and disingenuous. The amount of corrupting money flowing through Washington is obscene.

Is it illegal? No, Congresss made it very easy for them to take money. Is it corrupting, absolutely.

Whether the special interest group is the NEA, AFL-CIO, AFGE, Teamsters etc. It makes matters of money more important than what's right and wrong for the country and the average citizen.

There's no point arguing the merits of one lobbyist. Take for example the fact that over 80 Congresscritters "ammended" their travel records when it looked like someone was getting grilled over who paid for what trip there.

If you want to anally examine one guy giving money and proclaim widespread guilt for one political party you're looking through the money problem with myopic vision and blue colored glasses.

[Alonzo]

They all took money from Abramoff.Â*Â*Democrats and Republicans.Â*Â*Harry Reid included.

Yet there's only evidence for illegal activity on the republican side in this case.

If you want to anally examine one guy giving money and proclaim widespread guilt for one political party you're looking through the money problem with myopic vision and blue colored glasses.


Who made broad comments about republicans and corruption?

[Old Corps Gunny]

Ya know, this sounds like the kind of prank(?) that would be committed by teenagers. I was shocked when I read the ages of the offenders. Maybe they should have pleaded "not guilty by reason of arrested development." I can't help but compare these actions to the accusations made by the Democrats accusing the Republicans in Miami "disenfranchising" the black voters and costing Kerry the election. That accusation was found to be without merit, however.