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Stoner
03-18-2007, 10:29 PM
This is an op-ed piece from Michael Reagan. I couldn't agree more with it. He is 100% on target.


Who Hates America



If you believe the media and the cry-baby left, the entire world hates the United States of America. I don’t believe that. The reality of it is they don't hate us; they just love our money and wish they could get their hands on more of it. That's all the rest of the world ever cared about.

Sure, a lot of the French hate America, but they hate every nation that isn’t France.

Lefties across the globe hate America because they are insanely jealous of our prosperity and our standard of living, but they are not anything like a majority.

Ask yourself this: If America is so hateful, why does half the world want to come here to live in such a hateful country?

If you really want to know who really hates America don’t look abroad. Look right here in the United States for the real hate-America crowd; look at the left-wing crazies who run the Democrat party.

Think about it. America is at war. Tens of thousands of Americans in the armed forces are fighting that war, and more than three thousand of them gave their lives battling the terrorists sworn to destroy this nation.

Yet aside from Osama bin Laden and his crew of merciless killers, the people most dedicated to seeing the United States defeated in a battle for the future of the world are the liberal Democrats now feebly trying to run the Congress.

You really have to hate America and its people to lust after the defeat of your own country.

Sure, they don’t come right out and say it. They cover their tracks by calling a headlong – and shameful -- dash for the exits a “redeployment,” their way of saying cut and run. They say they fully support our troops, while they mutter about cutting the funding for them and leaving them defenseless far away from home.

As the new strategy for winning the war in Iraq begins to take hold, they refuse to recognize any of the signs of progress. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and the despicable John Murtha announce to the nation that we are losing the war, and moreover, can’t possibly win it.

You really have to hate America to stand on the sidelines, root for an enemy triumph and do everything you can to make sure we lose a war.

If you want to know who really hates America look at the Democrats who jumped on the media bandwagon to attack Walter Reed Army Medical Center charging that they have not given good medical care to our wounded troops coming back from a Iraq when they are fully aware that these wounded heroes have received the finest medical care ever a given to anyone, soldier or civilian, in the entire history of the world.

Thousands of wounded members of our armed forces who would have died of their wounds in previous wars are alive today as a result of the medical care available at Walter Reed and other armed services hospitals.

But what do we hear from the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid? Praise for the great care the Army and Navy have provided for the wounded and disabled? No.

Instead we hear allegations that slyly suggest that the conditions in substandard living quarters are in actuality symptoms of poor medical care being given to our troops. That's a flat-out lie, and you have to hate America to tell it.

The fact of the matter is that those veterans forced to live in substandard quarters and receiving extraordinary medical care were victims, not of the Army, but of the federal bureaucracy which operates under rules and restrictions dictated by the Congress when it was under the control of the Democrats.

Moreover it was the Congress which allowed Walter Reed medical center to be scheduled to shut down in 2010 -- just three years from now -- putting it in that category to deprive them of adequate funding.

You really have to hate America to attack -- for purely political reasons -- a system of medical care that is saving huge numbers of Americans. They have no shame.

lily
03-18-2007, 10:52 PM
Think about it. America is at war.

According to this article, Michael Reagan is pitting American against American. Nice job!

CheesyMuslim
03-18-2007, 11:10 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. I agree, the Neolibs want to lose this war at all costs, and its pure insanity.
2. I have been saying all along that the Neolibs have got to be out of their ever loving minds!
3. How in the H_LL can a governing body, like the Democrats ever agree to lose a war?
4. The only reason we lost in Vietnam was the undertoeings of this Neolib mentality, that came forth from the 1960's pot heads.
5. People like Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, who are supposed to be two married people, and to each other, are total nutbags, and why in the H_LL do they have different last names?
6. Its insane to listen to these two nutbags, as it is to allow ourselves to lose a war for some nutbag Democratic Party.
7. This is the worst I have ever seen them, they all need to move to another country.
8. It is a sworn statement when you are an elected official, *To Defend and Protect*, the United States of America.
9. When you become a citizen, you have to swear by the same oath.
10. This is a total break down of governmental policy, and or American Laws.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Stoner
03-18-2007, 11:14 PM
I agree, Chess. As a former soldier I get ill to my stomach when I see the libs rooting for us to lose the war. It's even sicker when the libs eagerly root for soldiers to die (like they did with the 3,000th) just so they can politicize it.

Disgusting.

Thirdparty
03-18-2007, 11:36 PM
Yes, Stoner, that is true. There is an extreme element in the left that does that. However, I think there is a difference between that and those who sincerely disagree with the war but support our troops.

Most Americans don't root for those of us who have been in the sandbox or are there to die. Most want us to win, or at least leave without leaving Iraq in worse shape. There are a few nutballs in every group, however. I respect healthy disagreement, no war in our history, even world war 2, was agreed upon by everyone. That is what we have to be careful to do...as much as the right gets stereotyped, so does the left.

Thirdparty


I agree, Chess. As a former soldier I get ill to my stomach when I see the libs rooting for us to lose the war. It's even sicker when the libs eagerly root for soldiers to die (like they did with the 3,000th) just so they can politicize it.

Disgusting.

Elrathin
03-19-2007, 12:17 AM
I agree, Chess. As a former soldier I get ill to my stomach when I see the libs rooting for us to lose the war. It's even sicker when the libs eagerly root for soldiers to die (like they did with the 3,000th) just so they can politicize it.

Disgusting.


The only thing disgusting is the lies you spew forth Stoner. Show me ONE LIB on this board that has ROOTED for soldiers to die and actually back it up with proof.

Will look forward to you running away again from debates.

The only one I have seen cheer for deaths here is Chesswarsnow with him calling on the death of one of our posters by being in one of the buildings in 9/11 when the plane struck it.

Stoner
03-19-2007, 12:23 AM
Most want us to win, or at least leave without leaving Iraq in worse shape.

I hear you but respectfully disagree. I see almost every lib rooting for the next death so they can politicize it. It's sickening to me. And in my humble opinion it is not just a select few. It's the vast majority.

Red Dragon
03-19-2007, 12:28 AM
Would you care to back up that claim with some evidence, or am I asking for too much?

Buck Laser
03-19-2007, 12:47 AM
Most want us to win, or at least leave without leaving Iraq in worse shape.

I hear you but respectfully disagree. I see almost every lib rooting for the next death so they can politicize it. It's sickening to me. And in my humble opinion it is not just a select few. It's the vast majority.


Respectfully my ass.

lily
03-19-2007, 01:02 AM
It's even sicker when the libs eagerly root for soldiers to die (like they did with the 3,000th) just so they can politicize it.

Disgusting.


Sort of like you and J316 thinking the deaths of American soldiers was funny here? (http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=3960)

Elrathin
03-19-2007, 01:13 AM
I hear you but respectfully disagree. I see almost every lib rooting for the next death so they can politicize it. It's sickening to me. And in my humble opinion it is not just a select few. It's the vast majority.


Show some proof then slick, show the MAJORITY are this way. Oh that's right, you can't back up your partisan comments, only spew bullshit.

You make your party look dumber and dumber everyday, thanks.

CheesyMuslim
03-19-2007, 01:35 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. Its pretty obvious that the Neolibs want more coffins.
2. Every sense this war started we been getting a body count, and how its *The Presidents* fault, for lying and getting America into this war for no good reason.
3. Face it folks, you have been secretly turned into America haters.
4. You still don't even notice it.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Elrathin
03-19-2007, 01:46 AM
Sorry Chess, but I've seen you as the one who's been wishing people dead around here.

CheesyMuslim
03-19-2007, 02:06 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But I heard Osama Obama saying how dreadful it was we lost over 3k soldiers recently, and how proud he was he was against this war from the begining.
2. Oh the pride of not wanting to defend your country.
3. He is so proud, proud, proud,..I think he's a jerk!

Regards,
SirjamesofTexas

underdawg
03-19-2007, 02:24 AM
I find it amusing that the right constantly accuses the left of hating America and not being patriotic. The truth is that the right and left hate America equally just as much as they love it. They just hate and love different things about this country. Personally I love the country, the constitution. I just hate the way our president was drunk with power and arrogance and everything he touches turns to crap. I hate that part of our population felt it was better to surrender freedom for a false sense of security. I hate that a certain part of our population think it is okay to deny ceratin rights to other citizens because of bias and hatred.

I find it a bit silly that Christians would accuse the left of hating America, when they seem to hate this world and the environment so much that they can't wait till this Earth is destoyed so they can go to heaven.

Pookie
03-19-2007, 04:44 AM
I think it's shameful that some people accuse others of being unpatriotic when they refuse to listen to us or even try to understand how we feel.
Try this: We support our troops by taking up collections of food, diapers, money, etc., etc. for the soldiers' families.
This goes to the USO and the families get it all.
More often than not, the doors that have been slammed in my face when I go to ask for donations are Republicans. They have those stickers on their cars in the driveways.
They don't have time. They won't give anything to support our troops. One lady brushed me off, saying, "It's not MY problem."
How dare anyone say the left hates America. This is just sick.

ECW
03-19-2007, 04:56 AM
The only people that hate America are those that tell people to shut up when they express their opinions about how to try to make America a better place to live.

Mike Reagan is too much of a retard to offer a cogent opinion much less the difference between the "Democrat" Party and the Democratic Party.

And don't count on seeing any proof, El. He hasn't brought any to the table yet. It's all his opinion, nothing more.

Elrathin
03-19-2007, 05:04 AM
The ones that are truly dividing this country are those that think in absoulte terms such as "You are either with us or against us". Gee I wonder what President said that?

I've watched many, including myself, that do not agree with the war, but support the troops. Why do we support the troops? For the simple reason they do not get to determine where and when we do the mission. They are the ones that are ORDERED to the battlefield by our Commander and Chief Bush.

They do not have a say so in whether we stay or leave. They have no say so when they have to leave their family or their jobs to go and fight the battle and die that this administration wants them to.

Supporting the troops is easy, they have no say so in where they go. Just because people don't support the way this administration has used our troops, does not mean they don't hope the troops a safe return.

The problem is retarded conservatives don't know the difference. I don't even call them neocons, because that would require they have intelligence which they don't. Retarded conservatives think that those that don't support this administrations policies don't support the troops.

Pookie
03-19-2007, 05:13 AM
Thank you, El. I may not agree with whatever, but the fact is, our troops are there, and their little families are here and I am doing all I can to help them. I do not believe that that makes me unpatriotic or hateful.

wonder cow
03-19-2007, 06:28 AM
People who exaggerate and fabricate intelligence in order to justify an unnecessary war that leads to disastrous consequences because it causes us to take our eye off the true war on international Islamic terrorism hate America.

(By the way, has Al Qaeda been destroyed yet? I know it took, what, 4 years to destroy the NAZI war machine, so surely almost 6 years after 9-11 Al Qaeda is no longer out there making threats against our country? Right?)

People who have a total disregard to a document that generations of Americans consider sacred, the Constitution, hate America.

People who bend over backwards to destroy the balance of power in our country, subvert the rule of law, and throw our POW's to the dogs by ignoring the Geneva convention hate America.

People who use the fear of terrorist attacks to consolidate political power and quell dissent hate America.

People who question the patriotism of past American warriors and at the same time use current American warriors as a shield for their incompetent, unprecedented, and absurd foreign policy hate America.

CheesyMuslim
03-19-2007, 01:45 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. Then the whole world hates American, and at the same time they would murder their spouse to get here.
2. Yeah, the whole UN decided Saddam was a terrorist threat, and they supported the war, back then 4 years ago today.
3. And the entire UN would trade countries if they could.
4. And the Neolibs within this Nation say we are hated so bad by folks all over the planet, okay hate us and stay the hell out of this Nation then!
5. How's about we do a poll of all Nations, and then which ever ones that say they *Hate America*, those we deny all *Visa's*.
6. Those who say they like us, we supply with those countries visa quotas who hated us.
7. That will end the whole we hate you issue.
8. And when the next country that gets rocked by a massive natural disaster, if they are on the, *We Hate You* list, then we don't go and pull them out of the muck.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

lily
03-19-2007, 11:38 PM
In other words buy love, Chess?

Anti-Racism
03-20-2007, 04:16 AM
We can sell them Coca-Cola.