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Stoner
03-15-2007, 03:31 PM
The Great Global Warming Swindle

This was a documentary done in England that debunks the Al Gore man-made global warming myth.

It's over an hour but definitly worth it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU

Elrathin
03-15-2007, 03:43 PM
I'll take a look at it with the wife after I get home from work.

piratemonkey
03-15-2007, 05:10 PM
Because, as we all know, documentaries are more authoritative than 2,500 peer-reviewed scientific studies.

:rolleyes:

Stoner
03-16-2007, 02:16 AM
Because, as we all know, documentaries are more authoritative than 2,500 peer-reviewed scientific studies.




I actually reccomend you don't watch it, monkey. You seem to already have your mind made up.

Once moveon.org gets their grips into fresh meat they rarely think on their own again.

piratemonkey
03-16-2007, 03:28 AM
Again, stoner.

Tell me of one of those 2500 scientific studies that you disagree with. Let's have and honest scientific discussion of the data, rather than trying to use popular culture to justify our claims.

ECW
03-16-2007, 04:38 AM
I'd be interested in reading that debate.

Stoner
03-16-2007, 05:03 AM
Again, stoner.

Tell me of one of those 2500 scientific studies that you disagree with. Let's have and honest scientific discussion of the data, rather than trying to use popular culture to justify our claims.


This thread is about the video. If you would like debate what you saw in the documentary (assuming you watched it).

piratemonkey
03-16-2007, 01:45 PM
This thread is about the video. If you would like debate what you saw in the documentary (assuming you watched it).


I've tried to engage you in a debate of the scientific evidence on easily 5 different threads now.

It seems you always have an excuse why you don't want to examine the facts.

Stoner
03-16-2007, 04:47 PM
I've tried to engage you in a debate of the scientific evidence on easily 5 different threads now.

It seems you always have an excuse why you don't want to examine the facts.


Great! Here's your chance. Debate something in the video. Also give the time on the video for easier locating.

Elrathin
03-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Great! Here's your chance. Debate something in the video. Also give the time on the video for easier locating.


Wait a minute now Stoner, PM has asked you many times to refute the articles he has shown and you refused, now you want him to refute the video your showing?

Stoner
03-16-2007, 04:58 PM
Wait a minute now Stoner, PM has asked you many times to refute the articles he has shown and you refused, now you want him to refute the video your showing?


This thread is about the video. Debate the video. If you're incapable I understand.

Elrathin
03-16-2007, 05:01 PM
This thread is about the video. Debate the video. If you're incapable I understand.


Not incapable, but seeing as you don't engage others that have asked you to refute their sources, why should I bother with yours?

ECW
03-16-2007, 05:08 PM
I guess what goes around, comes around. When you spend most of your time dissing other people's sources, don't be surprised when people diss yours.

Stoner
03-16-2007, 05:08 PM
So does anyone have a quote or section of the documentatry with the exact time they disagree with and why they disagree?

Labrocca
03-16-2007, 06:05 PM
None of us are scientists (that I know of at least) we are average joes chucking mud around based on what OTHERS are saying about Global Warming. It's incredibly difficult to refute science when you are not a scientist. Stoner has grabbed what he feels is a rebuttal to the Gore movie with scientific authorities.

This particular thread is NOT about 5 other threads....It's about the video posted in the original post. Please debate it...and if you can't find any inaccuracies in it or don't want to watch it then you should have very little else to say in this thread.

Elrathin
03-17-2007, 12:12 AM
Please debate it...and if you can't find any inaccuracies in it or don't want to watch it then you should have very little else to say in this thread.


Will look forward to you in the other threads Labrocca saying the same things then. So far Stoner has REFUSED to debate in ANY OTHER THREAD about Global warming. Will look forward to you saying the same things Labrocca in the other threads.

Thank you very much for throwing your weight around in this thread, and I hope you do the same things in the other threads about Global warming when others stray from the topics. Good form Labrocca.

Labrocca
03-17-2007, 12:18 AM
Will look forward to you in the other threads Labrocca saying the same things then. So far Stoner has REFUSED to debate in ANY OTHER THREAD about Global warming. Will look forward to you saying the same things Labrocca in the other threads.


So does this mean you can't debate the video or refute it? I watched the whole thing...some interesting parts of it is that a co-founder of greenpeace is in it as well as an ex UN IPCC member who fought to have his named removed from research they published saying he agreed when he did not. There are a lot of experts in the video and it has some extremely good common sense as well as scientific evidence that Global Warming is related to the Sun. That the entire issue is politicized for power and money. No big shocker there.

Elrathin
03-17-2007, 12:37 AM
So does this mean you can't debate the video or refute it? I watched the whole thing...some interesting parts of it is that a co-founder of greenpeace is in it as well as an ex UN IPCC member who fought to have his named removed from research they published saying he agreed when he did not. There are a lot of experts in the video and it has some extremely good common sense as well as scientific evidence that Global Warming is related to the Sun. That the entire issue is politicized for power and money. No big shocker there.


There are numerous threads by PM on the environmental debate that Stoner refused to refute and I'm glad you through your weight around this thread Labrocca, I am assuming you will do the same in ALL threads by people that post comments without refuting the topic. Good for you is all I'm saying.

I will look forward to your moderation in the other threads of Global warming where PM posting articles and Stoner did not refute them only posting partisan comments. Thank you again Labrocca. I will look for your moderation in the other threads real soon.

Stoner
03-17-2007, 01:04 AM
This is how you win debates with libs. You force them to stay on topic. Libs can't debate on topic. If you take away their ability to detour the conversation with comments like "Oh yeah well Bush did this..." or other non-related issues they're baseless.

If you doubt that...just take a look at this thread. No libs can touch the scientific research and data from the documentary.

The problem libs have is that they can only debate lib talking points. Moveon.org and these other hate-filled political sites have responses libs use in debates. But you take them off that path and they have nothing.

We'll see if our libs that dwell around here are capable of debating scientific fact and research by credible sources or if they continue to discuss everything except the topic at hand like they have thus far.

Elrathin
03-17-2007, 01:27 AM
This is how you win debates with libs. You force them to stay on topic. Libs can't debate on topic. If you take away their ability to detour the conversation with comments like "Oh yeah well Bush did this..." or other non-related issues they're baseless.


This coming form the person who has NEVER refuted ONE of PMs articles and has only commented with liberal bashing comments. This is COMEDY. Thanks for providing us with it Stoner, that has made my day :D

When you choose to refute anyone of PMs articles with proof than maybe you will find that liberals will do the same. Until then, enjoy your own medicine.

But have fun thinking what you will, we have already said that as soon as you refute one of PMs articles we will do the same. Since you do not, then we will not participate in yours.

Elrathin
03-17-2007, 01:28 AM
If you doubt that...just take a look at this thread. No libs can touch the scientific research and data from the documentary.

And you never touch one of the scientific researches and data from one of PMs articles either. Enjoy yourself.

ECW
03-17-2007, 01:37 AM
This is how you win debates with libs. You force them to stay on topic. Libs can't debate on topic.

Classic!

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