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Dear Republican Chairman Ray Hoffmann of Iowa, Republican Chairman Paul Willis of Nevada, Republican Chairman Katon Dawson of South Carolina and Republican Chairman Fergus Cullen of New Hampshire,
As the new president of Air America, I'd like to offer to host or co-host one of your upcoming presidential debates.
Why us? First, this would allow your debate to reach many voters. Combining our 2 million radio audience, along with our satellite, internet and web audiences, means that some 2.5 million Americans would hear or read about the debate..
Second, it would allow Republicans to differentiate themselves from Democrats - embracing a debate hosted by a progressive media outlet after Nevada Democrats canceled a debate scheduled to be hosted by the conservative Fox Cable News Channel. The MoveOn organization spurred 265,000 people to complain about the original plan, calling Fox a "mouthpiece for the Republican Party." In reply, Fox's Mort Kondracke called the Nevada Democratic Party's rejection of Fox a "Stalinist" violation of "free speech and free debate." So should you accept Air America's offer, Republicans would both embrace free debate and stick it to Stalin at the same time.
Third, our offer permits you to include any other national media company as a co-host -- like Fox. For example, a panel with Fox representing the conservative viewpoint and Air America the progressive viewpoint would make for a very "fair and balanced" debate -- not to mention that Fox's viewers per evening are coincidentally comparable to our 2.5 million listeners, meaning that several million unique people would hear your debate (assuming next to no overlap between our two disparate audiences).
We would be honored not only to co-host such an event; but also to broadcast it live without commercial interruption on the day that you choose.
I look forward to your response and to working with you on this important event.
Yours,
Mark Green
President, Air America Radio
Hey, if Fox is good enough to host a debate for Democrats then Air America can host one (or more) for the Republicans.
Stoner
03-14-2007, 01:13 PM
Air America Offers To Host GOP Debates
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
CheesyMuslim
03-14-2007, 01:38 PM
Sorry bout that,
1. But Air America is just that, *HOT AIR*.
2. They stole money from the girl scout cookie funds.
3. What a bunch of jerks they are.
4. And why would the Republicans or Democrats want to sully their names with being on their station.
5. They need to die off as soon as possible.
6. And also 2.5 million people is just a drop in the bucket of our population, who in their right mind would want to be seen or heard, by such a minisquel audience?
7. What a freakin, *Joke Air America*, is.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
BoogyMan
03-14-2007, 04:35 PM
Since ECW seems to think that Air America and Fox are somehow equated by posting this silly garbage, I will be glad to embrace his newfound sensibility and recommend that Rush Limbaugh now be allowed to to host several DNC debates at EIB.
Sounds like an idea just as good as ECW's.
Stoner
03-14-2007, 05:22 PM
Great idea, Boogy. Maybe we can even get Hitler to ask the "random audience" questions.
The difference between Air America and Fox is that AA never portrays itself as anything other than what it is: media outlet for Liberals.
The hypocrisy here is so clear: Fox is good enough to host a Democratic Party debate in Nevada but, according to our three forum Neocons, AA isn't good enough to host a Republican debate.
Thanks for biting on the bait, fellas.
Stoner
03-14-2007, 05:26 PM
I think ECW is off his meds again.
Increase the dosage, son...increase the dosage.
I think ECW is off his meds again.
Increase the dosage, son...increase the dosage.
Spoken like the resident drug addict that you are.
BoogyMan
03-14-2007, 08:40 PM
The difference between Air America and Fox is that AA never portrays itself as anything other than what it is: media outlet for Liberals.
The hypocrisy here is so clear: Fox is good enough to host a Democratic Party debate in Nevada but, according to our three forum Neocons, AA isn't good enough to host a Republican debate.
Thanks for biting on the bait, fellas.
Air America ISN'T good enough ECW. It is liberal hit radio. I truly appreciate you validating my impression of your political ideology by posting this article. When I saw this in the media the other day the first thing that went through my mind was how long it would take you to post it. You came in very much quicker than I expected.
potter
03-14-2007, 09:32 PM
Air America Offers To Host GOP Debates
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
Afraid they might ask some uncomfortable questions?
Bet the GOP can't handle it and wimps off.....
Buck Laser
03-14-2007, 10:20 PM
The difference between Air America and Fox is that AA never portrays itself as anything other than what it is: media outlet for Liberals.
The hypocrisy here is so clear: Fox is good enough to host a Democratic Party debate in Nevada but, according to our three forum Neocons, AA isn't good enough to host a Republican debate.
Thanks for biting on the bait, fellas.
Air America ISN'T good enough ECW. It is liberal hit radio. I truly appreciate you validating my impression of your political ideology by posting this article. When I saw this in the media the other day the first thing that went through my mind was how long it would take you to post it. You came in very much quicker than I expected.
Boog, are you suggesting by this that Fox ISN'T a conservative hit medium? It surely seems to me that that's what you're implying. Or am I out of context again?:D
BoogyMan
03-14-2007, 11:20 PM
Boog, are you suggesting by this that Fox ISN'T a conservative hit medium? It surely seems to me that that's what you're implying. Or am I out of context again?:D
I think you ARE out of context again Buck and I will tell you why. Fox News has a tilt to the right, but they do present both sides of an argument. They don't hide anything or lie. Air America doesn't try to present anything other than the liberal side of the argument and they hire personalities who say things like the quote below:
Sept 2, 2005: This President is never gonna do the right thing. I think somewhere deep down inside him he takes a lot of joy about losing people, if he thinks that they vote Democrat or if he thinks they're poor, or if he thinks they're in a blue state, whatever his reasons are not to rescue those people who are (planning?) for their safety.
Elrathin
03-15-2007, 01:54 AM
They don't hide anything or lie.
Um they aired segments from the Swift Boat Veterans that Was not proven Boogy. You should know that one.
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 02:03 AM
They don't hide anything or lie.
Um they aired segments from the Swift Boat Veterans that Was not proven Boogy. You should know that one.
The swift boat vets got airtime on many networks El. They may not have shown everything, but they were on many networks. Is Fox News the only network to be held to this standard El? You and I both know that isn't fair.
I was watching CNN just a while ago and Wolf Blitzer was swearing up and down that the attorney firings were political, that hasn't been proven. Are you also going to hold CNN to this standard?
That having been said, all networks have some kind of bias and it really is of little value to the discussion of the debate over the debate. (Like that wording?)
Elrathin
03-15-2007, 02:04 AM
Is Fox News the only network to be held to this standard El? You and I both know that isn't fair.
I never said that all I am saying is your "Fox Never lies or hides anything" is trumped.
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 02:07 AM
I think you may be stretching my commentary to be something not intended El. I said:
Fox News has a tilt to the right, but they do present both sides of an argument. They don't hide anything or lie.
Can they get it wrong? Yes. I don't believe that the network would intentionally lie.
Elrathin
03-15-2007, 02:11 AM
I don't believe that the network would intentionally lie.
I have a bridge in Iraq to sell you as well for only $1000, please send the money to my address then :D
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 02:12 AM
I don't believe that the network would intentionally lie.
I have a bridge in Iraq to sell you as well for only $1000, please send the money to my address then :D
All I have on me in my swim trunks is a quarter, can I still get that bridge?
Elrathin
03-15-2007, 02:38 AM
All I have on me in my swim trunks is a quarter, can I still get that bridge?
No, but under the big business organizations you can work 80 hours a week with all your pay being put on the bridge for 40 years and then at the end of that you can own it. Sound good? :D
I think you ARE out of context again Buck and I will tell you why. Fox News has a tilt to the right, but they do present both sides of an argument. They don't hide anything or lie. Air America doesn't try to present anything other than the liberal side of the argument...
I sure like the Fox runner underneath the shot of the courthouse where the Libby trial was taking place where Fox displayed the banner "Libby Innocent" after the verdict was announced and in the scroll they trumped the fact he was innocent of lying to the FBI but completely ignored the other four charges he was guilty of. That's your Fair and Balanced network for ya.
Like I said before, if Fox was good enough in conservatives' eyes to broadcast a Democratic Party debate, then Air America is good enough to broadcast a Republican one.
As for my ideology, Boogy, there is nothing here that would suggest I am anything than a Liberal, a fact I am damn proud of. You will continue to see that in fact and in evidence in the weeks, months and years to come. hang around. I am just getting started.
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 02:48 AM
I think you ARE out of context again Buck and I will tell you why. Fox News has a tilt to the right, but they do present both sides of an argument. They don't hide anything or lie. Air America doesn't try to present anything other than the liberal side of the argument...
I sure like the Fox runner underneath the shot of the courthouse where the Libby trial was taking place where Fox displayed the banner "Libby Innocent" after the verdict was announced and in the scroll they trumped the fact he was innocent of lying to the FBI but completely ignored the other four charges he was guilty of. That's your Fair and Balanced network for ya.
Like I said before, if Fox was good enough in conservatives' eyes to broadcast a Democratic Party debate, then Air America is good enough to broadcast a Republican one.
As for my ideology, Boogy, there is nothing here that would suggest I am anything than a Liberal, a fact I am damn proud of. You will continue to see that in fact and in evidence in the weeks, months and years to come. hang around. I am just getting started.
I never saw that one ECW, it couldn't be part of a banner that changed every few seconds could it? As a matter of fact, I watch Fox News and remember banners such as Libby Guilty 4 out of 5 Charges, etc.
Air America is in no way comparable to Fox News. Air America is more along the lines of a 24 hour Rush Limbaugh show.
Stoner
03-15-2007, 02:50 AM
Air America is just complete crap. This is why the ratings constantly suck and it's been on the brink of bankruptcy forever.
yeah, people really give a flying fuck what these loonys have to say.
Fox News has a tilt to the right, but they do present both sides of an argument. They don't hide anything or lie. Air America doesn't try to present anything other than the liberal side of the argument and they hire personalities who say things like the quote below:
Sept 2, 2005: This President is never gonna do the right thing. I think somewhere deep down inside him he takes a lot of joy about losing people, if he thinks that they vote Democrat or if he thinks they're poor, or if he thinks they're in a blue state, whatever his reasons are not to rescue those people who are (planning?) for their safety.
You really don't want me to start pulling out things that the puke bucket O'Reilly said on the other side of the aisle that were just as partisan, if not more so, that what Randi Rhodes said, do you? You wanna make it into a "He Said, She Said" kind of thread?
The facts are simple: Fox is an outlet for the right, AA is an outlet for the left. What's good for one is good for the other. In terms of audience, there is no question that Fox way outstrips AA but that's not the issue here. They are both media outlets.
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 03:03 AM
ECW, Oreilly is NOT news, he is commentary and analysis. You know this as fact. Analysis and commentary are NOT part of the news.
Air America is not news at all, they are ALL opinion/analysis/commentary just as is Limbaugh and Hannity.
I never saw that one ECW, it couldn't be part of a banner that changed every few seconds could it? As a matter of fact, I watch Fox News and remember banners such as Libby Guilty 4 out of 5 Charges, etc.
Air America is in no way comparable to Fox News. Air America is more along the lines of a 24 hour Rush Limbaugh show.
Link for Fox Banner (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/6/13482/03023)
AA is nowhere near the level of diatribe, vitrol, and obfuscation that Windbag Limbaugh is. Ed Schultz, Sam Seder, Rachel Maddow and the Yourg Turks all have more class in their pinky than Limbaugh had in his body when he was 400 pounds. Nice try, but no cigar.
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 03:12 AM
I never saw that one ECW, it couldn't be part of a banner that changed every few seconds could it? As a matter of fact, I watch Fox News and remember banners such as Libby Guilty 4 out of 5 Charges, etc.
Air America is in no way comparable to Fox News. Air America is more along the lines of a 24 hour Rush Limbaugh show.
Link for Fox Banner (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/6/13482/03023)
AA is nowhere near the level of diatribe, vitrol, and obfuscation that Windbag Limbaugh is. Ed Schultz, Sam Seder, Rachel Maddow and the Yourg Turks all have more class in their pinky than Limbaugh had in his body when he was 400 pounds. Nice try, but no cigar.
Thanks for the link. So with your screenshot we see that they showed all sides of the story. Is it possible that someone could take a single screenshot from a 24 hour channel and spin a tale around it that isn't quite factual? I think that is probably the case here ECW. That is not the totality of Fox News coverage of the Libby verdict.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgnZ0Nd--U4
Watch the scroll.
I have listened to Air America and have to disagree whole heartedly ECW. The difference is you agree with Air America and don't see the vitriol. They are the same kind of entertainment ans Limbaugh only tailored to the left.
Elrathin
03-15-2007, 03:12 AM
Air America is not news at all, they are ALL opinion/analysis/commentary just as is Limbaugh and Hannity.
Wrong, the commentary on AA may be, but AA is not in itself. There were quite a few news stories that it ran that even Fox news ran along side of it. That shows that AA is not all commentary. Maybe some of the hosts were, but AA was not.
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 03:18 AM
That is news to me El. What were the news shows?
Discussion shows are not news. Is that what you are talking about?
"Was the Libby Prosecution A Witch Hunt?"
Followed by commentary from Bob Novak, the person who outed Valerie Plame. That's the totality of Fox. I can't even call them a "news channel" because all I see is the same rightwing propaganda you claim is filling the AA airwaves on the left. Thanks for proving my point.
potter
03-15-2007, 09:05 PM
Link for Fox Banner (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/6/13482/03023)
*gasp* is that another liberal web site? :rolleyes::shy::P
potter
03-15-2007, 09:10 PM
"Was the Libby Prosecution A Witch Hunt?"
Followed by commentary from Bob Novak, the person who outed Valerie Plame. That's the totality of Fox. I can't even call them a "news channel" because all I see is the same rightwing propaganda you claim is filling the AA airwaves on the left. Thanks for proving my point.
I blocked Fox. It seems like all of their political and social commentators are hateful and really nasty mean. In line with Ann Coulter. I think this says a lot about those who enjoy Fox programming.
The world is mean enough without purposely absorbing it as "infotainment".
BoogyMan
03-15-2007, 09:29 PM
"Was the Libby Prosecution A Witch Hunt?"
Followed by commentary from Bob Novak, the person who outed Valerie Plame. That's the totality of Fox. I can't even call them a "news channel" because all I see is the same rightwing propaganda you claim is filling the AA airwaves on the left. Thanks for proving my point.
I hate to have to once again correct you ECW, but Novak is interviewed on networks such as CNN, MSNBC, etc.
This is little more than another logical fallacy on your part.
So does that mean that CNN and MSNBC are rightwing propaganda outlets as well? I don't think so.
How dare the media allow someone with whom you disagree to present an opposing view is the idea I am getting based on your commentary.
Novak hasn't been back to CNN since he left in a huff over being questioned about his involvement with the Plame scandal so that point is moot. Novak has been on MSNBC but only as a guest on Meet The Press which is an NBC show rerun on MSNBC. He hasn't been on any of the MSNBC talk shows for quite some time.
My point stands. Novak is a shill of Fox and that's where he was the morning they found Libby guilty and Fox tried to paint the rosy picture of Libby's innocence.
Fox is a media outlet and so is AA. That is my point. Plain and simple.
Stoner
03-16-2007, 05:13 AM
Fox is a media outlet and so is AA. That is my point. Plain and simple.
8 year-olds in Pee Wee football are football players. Those in the NFL are football players.
So by your logic 8 year olds should be allowed to play in the NFL?
Strike 3,936.
You're right. We should never have considered letting Fox host a debate. They are nothing but a bunch of 8 year olds who aren't really a news outlet but rather an entertainment channel.
TOUCHDOWN!
BoogyMan
03-16-2007, 10:32 AM
What Fox News should actually do is to refuse to cover democrats at all. The democrats, on a daily basis, evidence an irrational and dishonest hatred for the network so I am truly sure they wouldn't mind being completely ignored by such a horribly partisan entity.
Egads, I can hear the whining already.
Stoner
03-16-2007, 12:31 PM
They are nothing but a bunch of 8 year olds who aren't really a news outlet but rather an entertainment channel.
Oh, you mean like that circus known as CBS with the former ringleader, Dan "rather be making stuff up" Rather."
Yeah, they were real entertaining."
CBS - "Give it up, Dan. We've got nothing."
Rahter - "But...but...but..."
CBS - "It's over, Dan."
Rahter - "But we can continue our witch hunt against Bush with these."
CBS - "Those aren't even authentic."
Rather - "I know but it's worth the risk to bash Bush again!"
CBS - "Awwww shoot....ok, go ahead and run with it."
Rather - "YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!"
What Fox News should actually do is to refuse to cover democrats at all. The democrats, on a daily basis, evidence an irrational and dishonest hatred for the network so I am truly sure they wouldn't mind being completely ignored by such a horribly partisan entity.
Egads, I can hear the whining already.
Actually, because of the slanted coverage that they do exhibit both Obama and Edwards refuse to do any interviews with the Fox entertainment people. It's a first step. Dr Dean, on the other hand, is more than happy to step up to the plate and whip out the party line to the unsaved whenever they ask him to appear.
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