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PittsburghAfterDark
04-13-2006, 01:55 PM
The Minority Maker
The clever GOP strategy for defeat in November.

Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

If Republicans lose control of Congress in November, they might want to look back at last Thursday as the day it was lost. That's when the big spenders among House Republicans blew up a deal between the leadership and rank-in-file to impose some modest spending discipline.

Unlike the collapse of the immigration bill, this fiasco can't be blamed on Senate Democrats. This one is all about Republicans and their refusal to give up their power to spend money at will and pass out "earmarks" like a bartender offering drinks on the house. The chief culprits are the House Appropriators, led by Committee Chairman Jerry Lewis of California and his 13 subcommittee chairmen known as "cardinals." If Republicans lose the House--and they are well on their way--Mr. Lewis deserves the moniker of the minority maker.

For weeks, the Republican Study Committee, a group of fiscally conservative Members, had been negotiating a spending outline with the House leadership. But when they finally struck a deal last week, Mr. Lewis refused to go along and threatened to defeat the budget on the House floor if Speaker Denny Hastert brought it up. With Democrats opposing the budget as a matter of party unity, GOP leaders gave up and left town for Easter recess without a vote on their budget blueprint for 2007.

Political hardball isn't new to Congress, but what's especially notable here is the utter cluelessness by Mr. Lewis and his friends about how much trouble they're in and how to get out of it. The rank-and-file Members who haven't yet gone native in Washington realize that their biggest problem is the disappointment of Republican voters at Congress's free-spending ways. If those voters stay home in November, Mr. Lewis will soon be known as Mr. Ranking Member.

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/hc_jerrylewis.jpg

Then again, he's been there before and doesn't seem to mind. Mr. Lewis, who is now in his 14th term, was one of those Republicans who were utterly comfortable in the minority before the Gingrich Revolution in 1994. As chairman of the GOP Conference, Mr. Lewis was the No. 4 Republican in the House before Dick Armey challenged him for the post in 1992 and won--in part because Mr. Lewis was a lot less than revolutionary.

Since that defeat, he's hunkered down as one of the GOP's spenders-in-chief, presiding over multiplying earmarks and chopping to bits the party's reputation as fiscal conservatives. When President Bush recently asked Congress to pass a modified line-item veto, among the first to complain was Mr. Lewis. The spending baron told the Rules Committee last month that the line-item veto "could be a very serious error" that threatens the separation of powers. "We are the legislative branch of government."

Translation: Mr. Lewis is opposed to any budget reform that would give the President more leverage to limit his ability to spend tax dollars like there's no tomorrow. On the item veto, this puts him to the fiscal left of John Kerry, Al Gore, and, well, it's hard to get any further left than that.

The reforms that Mr. Lewis objected to can only be called modest in any case. In return for supporting President Bush's $873 billion discretionary spending limit for Fiscal 2007, the conservatives had sought a few budget "process" reforms. Kevin Brady of Texas wanted a floor vote to establish a commission to sunset federal agencies that have outlived their usefulness. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin asked for a floor vote on the line-item veto--just a vote. Mr. Lewis and his band of spenders would still have the chance to try and defeat it on the House floor.

Jeff Flake of Arizona wanted each spending "earmark" to be identified along with the Member who requested it, so perhaps lawmakers might be shamed into using tax dollars more responsibly. He assumed, wrongly as it turned out, that a legislative body that has allowed these pork projects to quadruple in the past five years is still capable of being embarrassed.

Another important reform would have addressed the "supplemental" spending shell game on Capitol Hill, whereby initial spending requests that fall within the limits of a budget blueprint are inevitably augmented by so-called "emergency" spending. And since this "emergency" spending falls outside the budget framework, the sky's the limit. The proposed reform would have set criteria for what constitutes an emergency, established a rainy day fund for when one occurs, and required a House Budget Committee vote to increase spending beyond the amount in the reserve.

All of this is a far cry from a wholesale and much-needed rewrite of the Democratic budget act of 1974, which Republicans once promised to redo if they ever won the House. That passion has faded as the GOP settled into a cushy incumbent status quo. But facing a sudden revolt among their own younger Members this year, the House leadership finally agreed to the small reforms. The problem now is that Mr. Hastert, new Majority Leader John Boehner and Majority Whip Roy Blunt can't seem to exert any leadership over Mr. Lewis. Maybe they're practicing for taking orders from Speaker Nancy Pelosi next year.

A category five political storm is building in GOP precincts around the country, and it is going to blow Republicans right out of the majority in November if they don't soon give their supporters some reason to re-elect them. So far this year they've passed limits on free speech that liberals love, but they haven't been able to extend the wildly successful 2003 tax cuts by even a mere two years. And now they won't even allow a vote on budget reforms that their own President and a majority of their own Members support

At the current pace, a Democratic majority in Congress would be preferable, if only for reasons of truth in advertising.
WSJ Opinion Journal (http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008226)

Drocket
04-13-2006, 03:31 PM
This entire article can be discredited by simply quoting one phrase from it:??wildly successful 2003 tax cuts. What plane of existance was this article channeled from?

PittsburghAfterDark
04-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Of course, our good friend here, Drocket, makes his living as a financial writer for a publication more prestigous and well respected than the Wall Street Journal.

Tell us, oh great one, what publication hired you to form an expert counter opinion? Who's making out checks to you for your fiscal policy wonkishness?

Drocket
04-13-2006, 06:08 PM
No one. I'm sure I could make a fortune if I was willing to whore myself out to special interest groups, much like the writer of this article has.

PittsburghAfterDark
04-13-2006, 07:03 PM
What we have here is the classic example of liberal rebuttal that makes no sense, answers no questions, raises no points, insults, degrades and proves nothing to no one.

Disagree with a writer???He/she is a whore, sell out, beholden to special interests or a hack.

To disparage said writer liberal person must say that they too could make a fortune if only they were whoring for special interests. Meaning of course two things.

1. Liberal person is a noble, principled, righteous, high minded yet.... poor, downtrodden, stepped upon and wronged because their beliefs aren't accepted by the monied crowd or the free market.

2. Liberal person is the only one in the room that gets it and the rest of the people that collect paychecks are sell out hacks that only benefit in life because they've chained themselves to the "special interests".

Next, liberal person gets angry and throws out horrible epithets designed to degrade anyone that disagrees and will no doubt disparage some government, institutional or corporate organization or individual.

Drocket
04-13-2006, 07:34 PM
Pot, kettle, black.

Seriously, how exactly would you justify calling the 2003 tax cuts 'wildly successful'? The economy isn't exactly stellar, to say the least. The disparity between the rich and poor are at their highest levels since the 1920's. The deficit is through the roof. Polls show that the vast majority of Americans think the economy is on the wrong track, and that they don't believe Bush is able or willing to fix it. Which part of this is evidence of the tax cuts being 'wildly successful'?

PittsburghAfterDark
04-13-2006, 07:38 PM
You do realize of course that this article had next to nothing to do with tax cuts and everything to do with a cabal of out of control spending Republicans right?

I mean, you did read the article, right?

PittsburghAfterDark
04-13-2006, 07:46 PM
In The First 5 Months Of FY 2006 (Through Feb.) Overall Federal Revenues Were Up 10.3% Over The Same Time In FY 2005. (Editorial, "Beltway Windfall," The Wall Street Journal, 3/23/06)

Corporate Income Tax Revenues Are Up 30% While Individual Income Tax Revenues Are Up 10.3%. (Editorial, "Beltway Windfall," The Wall Street Journal, 3/23/06) Federal Revenues Were Up 15% In FY 2005. (Editorial, "Beltway Windfall," The Wall Street Journal, 3/23/06)

The Conference Board's March Index Of Consumer Confidence Was At Its Highest Level - 107.2 - Since May 2002. ("Consumer Confidence At Highest Point In Almost 4 Years," USA Today, 3/29/06)

28.4% Of Consumers Said Jobs Were "Plentiful," The Highest Since Aug. 2001. ("Consumer Confidence At Highest Point In Almost 4 Years," USA Today, 3/29/06) The Univ. Of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index Rose To 88.9 In Late March. ("Consumer Sentiment Rises In Late March," MarketWatch, 3/31/06)

The Nasdaq Hit Its Highest Level In More Than 5 Years Wednesday And Finished Up Again Thursday. ("Nasdaq Ready To Rumble Ahead," USA Today, 3/30/06; "Stocks Decline On Rate Worries," USA Today, 3/31/06)

The Chicago PMI, A Gauge Of Business Activity In The Area, Rose To 60.4% In March (Readings Above 50% Indicate Most Businesses Are Expanding). ("Chicago Business Gauge Rises In March," MarketWatch, 3/31/06)

Employment Increased In 41 States In Feb. (Bureau Of Labor Statistics, "Regional And State Employment And Unemployment: February 2006," Press Release, 3/30/06)

Between Feb. 2005 And Feb. 2006, Employment Increased In 48 States. (Bureau Of Labor Statistics, "Regional And State Employment And Unemployment: February 2006," Press Release, 3/30/06) Jobless Rates Fell In 39 States Between Feb. 2005 And Feb. 2006. (Bureau Of Labor Statistics, "Regional And State Employment And Unemployment: February 2006," Press Release, 3/30/06)

New Claims For Jobless Benefits Fell 10,000 For The Week Ending Mar. 25 - The 4-Week Average Fell 1,500. ("U.S. Jobless Claims Fall To 302,000," MarketWatch, 3/30/06)

The 4-Week Average For Continuing Claims Stayed At A 5-Year Low. ("U.S. Jobless Claims Fall To 302,000," MarketWatch, 3/30/06)

The U.S. Economy Grew 3.5% In 2005. ("Fourth-Quarter GDP Revised Up To 1.7%," MarketWatch, 3/30/06)

The 4th Quarter Growth Rate Was Revised Up To 1.7%. ("Fourth-Quarter GDP Revised Up To 1.7%," MarketWatch, 3/30/06)

Economists Said The One-Quarter Slump Was Due To Factors "That Have Already Faded" And Expect The Economy To Grow 4.6% For The 1st Quarter Of 2006. ("Fourth-Quarter GDP Revised Up To 1.7%," MarketWatch, 3/30/06)

Drocket
04-13-2006, 07:58 PM
It has to do with the credibility of the source. The source is, quite clearly, insane. I suppose they're right - the Republicans ARE spending like they're no tomorrow (Hmm, that's probably what you get when you mix end-of-time fundimentalists with politics...), but it doesn't change the fact that the source is clearly nuts.

Regarding your sources: Probably the most ridiculous one is '28.4% Of Consumers Said Jobs Were "Plentiful," The Highest Since Aug. 2001' - so, um, does that mean that 71.6% of Americans think jobs AREN'T plentify? Shouldn't that headline be 'nearly 3 in 4 Americans think jobs are scarce'?

Most of the rest aren't much better: notice how carefully they avoid comparisons between the time Clinton was in office and Bush. Yay, some figure of the economy is up 1.3% since 2001 (please ignore the fact that its down 17.8% overall since Bush took office.)

PittsburghAfterDark
04-13-2006, 08:21 PM
Again, you do nothing but attack a writer.

What is it with you? Were you rejected by the WSJ and are now forever bitterly enraged that your socialistic gobbledygook isn't believed, accepted and scoffed at in economic circles?

Where the hell are you getting the economy is down 17.8% since Bush came into office? Just where the hell does this come from?

Even during the great depression the largest economic contraction in a 4 year period was 16% and unemployment spiked at 25.2%. Are you going to tell me now with 4.7% unemployment, personal income tax revenues up 10% year to year, corporate tax revenues up 30% year to year that this economy has shrunk 17.8% in 5 years?

Now ladies and gentlemen, we're going to show what it means in crystal clear terms how wrong this liberal is and all liberals are in general. Here is what a 17.8% economic decrease looks like to a liberal vs. the Clinton years.

Ready???

American GDP in Billions of Dollars

Clinton Years

1993-04-01 7532.8
1993-07-01 7577.7
1993-10-01 7661.5
1994-01-01 7747.2
1994-04-01 7843.7
1994-07-01 7886.8
1994-10-01 7979.2
1995-01-01 8014.3
1995-04-01 8032.0
1995-07-01 8081.0
1995-10-01 8152.0
1996-01-01 8213.3
1996-04-01 8337.6
1996-07-01 8402.7
1996-10-01 8507.6
1997-01-01 8566.0
1997-04-01 8707.0
1997-07-01 8808.7
1997-10-01 8868.1
1998-01-01 8965.5
1998-04-01 9022.2
1998-07-01 9112.2
1998-10-01 9255.2
1999-01-01 9346.7
1999-04-01 9429.1
1999-07-01 9532.7
1999-10-01 9710.4
2000-01-01 9729.0
2000-04-01 9885.3
2000-07-01 9867.8
2000-10-01 9941.6
2001-01-01 9913.6

Bush Years

2001-04-01 9949.8
2001-07-01 9887.7
2001-10-01 9983.1
2002-01-01 10004.1
2002-04-01 10048.6
2002-07-01 10119.7
2002-10-01 10143.8
2003-01-01 10182.0
2003-04-01 10294.1
2003-07-01 10474.7
2003-10-01 10590.0
2004-01-01 10689.5
2004-04-01 10747.7
2004-07-01 10854.1
2004-10-01 10931.8
2005-01-01 11036.3
2005-04-01 11122.5
2005-07-01 11243.2
Link (http://www.forecasts.org/data/data/GNPC96.htm)

Now I'm trying desperately to figure out how a 13% increase in GDP in a 5 year period becomes a 17.8% real economic decrease.

Drocket, hand out whatever it is you're smoking, the rest of us would like to be as detached from reality now and again as you are on a daily basis.

Drocket
04-13-2006, 08:32 PM
As I made quite clear in what I posted, that was just a random number ('some figure of the economy') There are more than enough figures that I'm sure that SOMETHING is down more than 17%.

This does absolutely nothing to change my point: all of those wonderful news articles you quoted show little more than marginal growth over carefully chosen periods of time, when if you would look at those figures over a longer term (as in, since before Bush took office), pretty much all of them would be in the negative. The right-wing can do their little song and dance all they want to, but it does little to change reality: the economy is doing marginally, at best, while the nation's debt goes through the roof. Not exactly the outcome one would expect from a 'wildly successful' tax cut.

Labrocca
04-13-2006, 10:35 PM
woah! The economy by most economic standards is VERY strong. Certain sectors are weak but overall it's an incredible economy. The lack of news coverage about the fact is a great disservice to the President. Most news outlets barely mention how amazing the economy has been the past few years. Honestly with a war in Iraq and Oil ever so rising it's a miracle we are doing so well..BUT WE ARE. I remember the Carter days and when there was lines at the gas stations..now THAT was a crappy economy. Exactly what in your life Drocket are you experiencing that you think the economy is so bad? You can't afford a 3rd vacation home or something?

bmulligan
04-16-2006, 12:51 AM
?I'm sure I could make a fortune if I was willing to whore myself out to special interest groups, much like the writer of this article has.


Isn't that the job requirement of congressperson? You can't be so naive to think the whores are only on one side of the aisle.

The fact that Drocket thinks we are in the worst period of history shows that he is much younger than the rest of us. Like the little mouse said, waiting in line for gas in the 70's with double digit inflation is from a parallel, ultra-dimensional universe that existed well before drocket was born and doesn't count today becuase it happened more than 5 years ago.

These must be the worst of times becuase republicans control the government only goes so far in an argument. Times are tough for some people in any state of an economy. Taking a poll of your friends opinions or of the TV news shows doesn't make it a quagmire for everyone. Perception is not reality.