And Hilary begins to kill her chances in the South

[Stoner]

She should just come out and say she plans on banning fried chicken and grits.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/19/D8ND1C200.html

[Waffletush]

Think she will go to southern California and say the same thing about 'citizens' displaying the Mexican flag?

[Stoner]

Think she will go to southern California and say the same thing about 'citizens' displaying the Mexican flag?


Of course not. But then again Hilary has yet shown she has a brain in her head so she just may.

[Elrathin]

But then again Hilary has yet shown she has a brain in her head so she just may.


Funny for a woman with no brain she sure has you conservatives pissing your pants.

[Stoner]

Funny for a woman with no brain she sure has you conservatives pissing your pants.


Who said she has us pissing our pants? Is moveon.org making you say this?

[NortheastCynic]

I don't see many people scared of her, Elrathin. She isn't very electable, the Democrats will realize this shortly. Get used to hearing Bill Richardson's name if the Democrats want to have any chance at beating McCain or Giuliani.

-NC

[Elrathin]

Who said she has us pissing our pants? Is moveon.org making you say this?


I can smell it from hear Stoner, do try and not be afraid ok? IT will be ok, you can crawl back into your bong for another 8 years. And be sure to look over your shoulders at all times, cause the big bad liberal media is out to get ya. :D

[Stoner]

Â*She isn't very electable

Finally, someone who gets it.Â*Â*

I've been saying for some time now that Hilary is not electable in a general election.Â*Â*How she fares in the democratic primaries is one thing.Â*Â*How she fares in a general election is entirely different.

I don't know how she will do in the democratic primaries.Â*Â*It will come down to her or Osama.Â*Â*My early instincts tell me Osama.Â*Â*But we'll see.Â*Â*

John Edwards is just a fucktard ambulance chaser who is as important as that white crust that forms on the corner of your mouth in the middle of the night.

[Elrathin]

Get used to hearing Bill Richardson's name if the Democrats want to have any chance at beating McCain or Giuliani.

-NC


LOL if Republicans are putting their stock into Giuliani or McCain, Republicans are going to lose PERIOD. The religious right will only side with McCain and he is pretty much know for being a lapdog to this administration which will not go over well for those wanting a different administration than Bush's

[Elrathin]

John Edwards is just a fucktard ambulance chaser who is as important as that white crust that forms on the corner of your mouth in the middle of the night.


Which is still better than anything the republicans have to offer :D

[NortheastCynic]

I'm not saying the Republicans' field is strong...But Rudy beats Hillary as does McCain. I don't think the same can be said for Richardson [and it's not like I'm a Richardson fan]. Either way, if the Repubs just wised up and pushed Ron Paul through the primary they would win in a laugher. Every libertarian in America would vote for that guy, myself included [hell, I'm registering Republican (I'm a registered Libertarian) just to vote for him in the primary up here].

-NC

[Stoner]

I can smell it from hear Stoner

You can't even spell correctly but yet you want us to believe you can read minds?

Libs just keep getting funnier and funnier by the minute.

[Elrathin]

I can smell it from hear Stoner

You can't even spell correctly but yet you want us to believe you can read minds?

Libs just keep getting funnier and funnier by the minute.


A spelling error is all you got? LMAO. Change your shorts then come back ok?

[Elrathin]

I'm not saying the Republicans' field is strong...But Rudy beats Hillary as does McCain.


McCain doesn't have a chance in hell except for some of the religious fundies out there, most Republicans I think hate him. As for Giuliani the religious right won't touch him with a ten foot pole. He's got face recognition but that is the only thing he has.

Hillary can beat McCain hands down, Giuliani would have a decent shot.

[AlonzoMourning23]

I don't see how this will hurt her. It simply means she's forfeiting the states she can't win in the first place. Seriously, this is good pr practically everywhere else.

[lily]

NortheastCynic Wrote:
I'm not saying the Republicans' field is strong...But Rudy beats Hillary as does McCain.

I know people are tired of reading this from me, but I still don't get the Republicans fascination with Rudy. He's been married, what 3 times? He's pro-gun control, pro-life and pro-gay marriage. Four of the things the Republicans hold dear.

alonzomourning23 wrote:
I don't see how this will hurt her. It simply means she's forfeiting the states she can't win in the first place. Seriously, this is good pr practically everywhere else.
Not only do you have apoint.....but you got us back on topic.

[NortheastCynic]

I know people are tired of reading this from me, but I still don't get the Republicans fascination with Rudy. He's been married, what 3 times? He's pro-gun control, pro-life and pro-gay marriage. Four of the things the Republicans hold dear.Well, not being a Republican, I can only offer an educated guess. He was an effective leader in a city the size of some small countries, is a moderate, was a national hero, is intelligent, appeals to independents and would put several traditionally Democratic states [New Jersey specifically] on the table for Republicans in an election. Those are just some starters.

-NC

[Drocket]

I'm not saying the Republicans' field is strong...But Rudy beats Hillary as does McCain.

According to multiple surveys that have been done, you would be wrong. Here (http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/2006-07/06-087.html) is one, for example, in which Hillary leads McCain 49% to 36%. and Giuliani 49% to 37%. Time's survey (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1582130,00.html) is a lot closer, but Hillary still leads by 2 points. here's another survey (http://www.newyorkbusiness.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070204/FREE/70205023&SearchID=73271237191027) with Hillary in the lead, and another (http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200507/hillarypoll) and another (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1009&What=&strArea=;&strTime=120). Actually, I can't find ANY that have her losing to a Republican - the only contests that she loses in are against Obama, about 50% of the time.

You can wish all you want that Hillary is 'unelectable', but the majority of the country disagrees with you.

[NortheastCynic]

You can wish all you want that Hillary is 'unelectable', but the majority of the country disagrees with you.Really, a majority?Â*Â*Your first poll was a poll of over 400 registered voters in RHODE ISLANDÂ*Â*Your second poll shows a virtual tie between McCain and Clinton, your third poll consisted of hundreds of registered voters in NEW YORK, our fourth poll is a poll of Washington insiders and your fifth poll shows a statistical deadheat.Â*Â*The majority of voters don't show anything.Â*Â*What I'm saying [which draws from the HISTORY of what the actual majority has wanted] is that Hillary is unelectable because she is a Northeastern Liberal Senator and Northeastern Liberal Senators don't get elected President, period.Â*Â*Southern moderates do [preferably governors].Â*Â*I'll check back when we're closer to election time.Â*Â*If I'm wrong I'll own up to it, but to tell me what the "majority" says now is laughable.

-NC

[lily]

I know people are tired of reading this from me, but I still don't get the Republicans fascination with Rudy. He's been married, what 3 times? He's pro-gun control, pro-life and pro-gay marriage. Four of the things the Republicans hold dear.Well, not being a Republican, I can only offer an educated guess. He was an effective leader in a city the size of some small countries, is a moderate, was a national hero, is intelligent, appeals to independents and would put several traditionally Democratic states [New Jersey specifically] on the table for Republicans in an election.Â*Â*Those are just some starters.

-NC


A simple google search told me that no mayor has been elected since Cleveland and not without holding office other than city, NC. Could he be the first? I don't know. I do know from the Republicans I know, that they hold family dear and divorce, while the "norm", isn't looked on too fondly and Rudy is on his 3rd wife. I also know how they feel about their guns, marriage and abortion.

This world would have to be pretty screwed up, and think since he "saved" New York, he could do the same for America, or there would have to be some pretty ill-informed voters out there, to just vote pary line. Hell, with those "values" I might vote for him, if I didn't know better.

[Stoner]

A simple google search told me that no mayor has been elected since Cleveland

Wow. Then that must surly mean it will never happen again.

[Elrathin]

Wow. Then that must surly mean it will never happen again.


Not with Giuliani it won't.

[NortheastCynic]

This world would have to be pretty screwed up, and think since he "saved" New York, he could do the same for America, or there would have to be some pretty ill-informed voters out there, to just vote pary line.No more screwed up than they would have to be to vote for Barrack Obama because he's hopeful. Not that I have a dog in this fight, but if it's between Hillary and Rudy, or Barrack and Rudy, I'm pulling Rudy's lever.

-NC

[Stoner]

This world would have to be pretty screwed up, and think since he "saved" New York, he could do the same for America, or there would have to be some pretty ill-informed voters out there, to just vote pary line.No more screwed up than they would have to be to vote for Barrack Obama because he's hopeful.Â*Â*Not that I have a dog in this fight, but if it's between Hillary and Rudy, or Barrack and Rudy, I'm pulling Rudy's lever.

-NC


I agree.

Is it safe to assume Edwards is just a complete piece of shit and has about as much chance of winning the democratic primaries as Britney Spears does of being Mother of the Year?

[NortheastCynic]

We're agreeing a lot lately, Stoner...Edwards had no chance when he was a freshman Senator, he has less than no chance as a private citizen. People don't buy socialized education and healthcare, no matter how pretty guy calling for it is.

-NC

[lily]

No more screwed up than they would have to be to vote for Barrack Obama because he's hopeful.Â*Â*Not that I have a dog in this fight, but if it's between Hillary and Rudy, or Barrack and Rudy, I'm pulling Rudy's lever.

-NC


The difference is, Obama believes in what most Democrats believe in. Just from what I've read here, Republicans are for no gun control, no abortion and no gay marriage. Now, Bush did get elected saying he believed in the woman's right to choose, but that's one out of three and he wasn't on his third wife. It seems to me, that Rudy is going against everything that Republicans hold sacred.

[lily]

A simple google search told me that no mayor has been elected since Cleveland

Wow.Â*Â*Then that must surly mean it will never happen again.


Did I say that?

[J316]

I am suprised she made it that far into the south without being assasinated.

[Stoner]

The difference is, Obama believes in what most Democrats believe in.

If I had to vote for a democrat that's running I would take Obama. Would like to see him become the second black president this country has ever had.

[NortheastCynic]

Just as a quick update: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Presidential%20Match-Ups/Giulianivs.Clinton20070223.htm

Rudy Giuliani (R ) 52%, Hillary Clinton (D) 43%
Rudy Giuliani (R ) 46%, Barack Obama (D) 40%
Rudy Giuliani (R ) 46%, John Edwards (D) 44%
Rudy Giuliani (R ) 46%, Al Gore (D) 43%
Let's hold our water over Hillary, shall we?

-NC