Liberal hypocrisy

[Stoner]

Whoops.Â*Â*Don't you hate it when your flip-flops are documented?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE

[AlonzoMourning23]

And the people in that don't advocate a full scale invasion of Iraq, especially without taking other measures to ensure that no other way is possible.

[BoogyMan]

I sure am glad none of those good lawmakers voted for the war in Iraq. Did you actually *WATCH* that video from start to finish Zo? Did you see the Hillary Clinton commentary specifically?

http://www.mayyam.com/hub/images/smiles/banghead.gif

[NortheastCynic]

Amazing how people forget just how bipartisan this war was.

-NC

[AlonzoMourning23]

I sure am glad none of those good lawmakers voted for the war in Iraq.Â*Â*Did you actually *WATCH* that video from start to finish Zo?Â*Â*Did you see the Hillary Clinton commentary specifically?

http://www.mayyam.com/hub/images/smiles/banghead.gif


I watched the entire thing. Funny, even in the chopped up version (who knows what was omitted), she says she doubts you can disarm him without regime change. Does not say she would not make an attempt, does not say its impossible.

Amazing how people forget just how bipartisan this war was.


The war wasn't bipartisan. The bill that allowed force as a last resort was.

[NortheastCynic]

The war wasn't bipartisan. The bill that allowed force as a last resort was.The war wasn't bipartisan, the bill authorizing force was?Â*Â*Are you serious?Â*Â*Whether or not Democrats are willing to admit it, they voted to authorize war, not threaten it.Â*Â*They gave the President the power to go to war at his discretion, they have to share some of the blame.

-NC

[Drocket]

I would have to agree with the assessment that Democrats share some of the blame: they made a terrible, terrible mistake in assuming that Bush knew how the game is supposed to work. The war resolution was supposed to be a bluff - "Comply with resolution XXX, Saddam, or we'll invade! *scary frowny face*" That's the way its supposed to work, that's the way that its worked for more than a decade, and once again, this time it worked -Saddam backed down an complied.

The mistake that the Democrats made is believing that Bush wasn't a complete and utter moron - they actually though that he'd go through with the standard (and effective) charade. Bush, however, wanted to had a war, and was determined to have one no matter what Saddam did. They midjudged in believing that a rational human being inhabited the oval office, and for that, they deserve some part of the blame. But of course, the majority of the blame should be reserved for the moron who didn't know how the game is played.

What's more worrisome to me is that there's a number of Democrats out there who STILL haven't figured out the score. Whenever they go around saying that 'all options are on the the table' when it comes to Iran, they're giving Bush the cover he needs to start another idiotic, mismanaged war. Under normal circumstances, its what they need to say by the rules of the game, but with someone like Bush in the game pretty much calling the shots, the normal game goes out the window.

[AlonzoMourning23]

The war wasn't bipartisan. The bill that allowed force as a last resort was.The war wasn't bipartisan, the bill authorizing force was?Â*Â*Are you serious?Â*Â*Whether or not Democrats are willing to admit it, they voted to authorize war, not threaten it.Â*Â*They gave the President the power to go to war at his discretion, they have to share some of the blame.

-NC


Ya, the democrats were too stupid to realize that you can't give a guy who likens himself to a cowboy the authority to decide between diplomacy and war.

The vote was not made with the understanding that they were authorizing a guaranteed war:

Ahead of the vote, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle announced Thursday morning he would support Bush on Iraq, saying it is important for the country "to speak with one voice at this critical moment."

Daschle, D-South Dakota, said the threat of Iraq's weapons programs "may not be imminent. But it is real. It is growing. And it cannot be ignored." However, he urged Bush to move "in a way that avoids making a dangerous situation even worse."

Daschle had expressed reservations about a possible U.S. attack on Iraq, and he was not part of an agreement between the White House and other congressional leaders framing the resolution last week...

Minority Leader Richard Gephardt, D-Missouri, said giving Bush the authority to attack Iraq could avert war by demonstrating the United States is willing to confront Saddam over his obligations to the United Nations.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/11/iraq.us/

[Anti-Racism]

Both the right and left in America are proponents of liberalism, and both of them are generally populated by liars. What can we learn from this, class?

[Elrathin]

What can we learn from this, class?


That either side is still better than whatever side you advocate?