*Murder And Muslim, Go Hand In Hand*

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But after countless murders, day after day of car bombing each other.
2. It is concluded that Muslims murder out of practice.
3. They will blow each other up just to see body parts fly.
4. And to measure each others grief meters.
5. Over and over we see more carnage in Iraq.
6. Perpretrated on each other for no other reason than that the ones they attack are of a different sect than they are, but still all worshiping the moon god, just like the other is.
7. This should be taken note of.
8. And our measure of grief stricken on them, some day, should be toked up to a level that both will stop what they're doing to each other.
9. Here's a link:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/18/iraq.main/

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Double car bombing kills at least 56 in Baghdad
POSTED: 9:33 a.m. EST, February 18, 2007
Story Highlights• NEW: Death toll rises in Baghdad double bombing
• U.S. military says four "terrorist facilitators" killed in raid
• Secretary of state makes surprise visit to Baghdad
• Rice assures Americans in Iraq that efforts are appreciated

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two car bombs exploded in quick succession Sunday in southeastern Baghdad, killing 56 people and wounding at least 128 others, police said.

The attack happened in the mostly Shiite district of Baghdad al-Jadida -- which translates to "New Baghdad" -- around 3 p.m. local time (7 a.m. ET).

About an hour later, a suicide car bomber detonated near an Iraqi National Police checkpoint in Sadr City, killing one policeman and wounding two civilians, an Interior Ministry official said.

Sadr City is a stronghold of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Meanwhile, U.S.-led coalition forces killed four suspected terrorist facilitators and arrested four suspected terrorists during a raid Sunday in southwestern Iraq, the U.S. military announced.

The military said as troops were searching the building, they found three pistols and two AK-47s, along with eight women and 23 children.

Why the children and women were present was not explained in the military's statement, but "ground forces confirmed none ... were injured during the operation," it said.

In eastern Mosul on Saturday, the U.S. military said the Ninewa special weapons and tactics team, backed by coalition advisers, arrested a man thought to be linked to terrorist group al Qaeda in Iraq.

The suspect had reportedly attempted to launch several attacks on Iraqi security and coalition forces in the area.

The U.S. military announced Sunday that two U.S. Multi-National Division-Baghdad soldiers were killed Saturday in separate attacks in Iraq.

One soldier was killed when insurgents opened fire on a foot patrol of Multi-National Division-Baghdad soldiers operating just north of Baghdad, the military said.

The other died when insurgents threw a grenade at the unit's vehicle during combat operations in Baquba, about 30 miles north of Baghdad.

With the deaths, 3,134 U.S. military personnel have died in the Iraq war, including seven civilian contractors of the Defense Department.

Rice visits Baghdad
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made an unannounced visit to Baghdad on Saturday to assess the security crackdown there.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and Rice discussed security and reconstruction in the war-ravaged nation. She also met with U.S. and other Iraqi officials, an embassy spokesman said.

Rice then traveled on to Jerusalem for a series of meetings with leaders from the region. (Full story)

Rice said she had been told the Iraqis are "doing the job alongside their coalition counterparts and they are off to a good start." (Watch Rice praise the Iraqi prime minister's leadership )

She further said that the security plan, which primarily targets militant factions in Baghdad, is "just beginning to unfold" and will grow over time.

Critics have questioned whether an al-Maliki-backed government crackdown on insurgents can be successful when the prime minister has received substantial support from firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mehdi Army.

Asked if the new security initiatives would merely push insurgents underground until troops left, Rice said she would not be disappointed if "militias decide to stand down and stop killing innocent Iraqis."

How Iraqis use that "breathing space" is what's important, she added.

Speaking Saturday to U.S. mission personnel in Baghdad, Rice made reference to the domestic debate over the war.

Rice said Americans appreciate their fellow citizens' efforts in Iraq regardless of what they think of Bush administration policies there.

"I know that a lot's going on in Washington and that you're hearing it," she said. "A lot's going on because we are a great democracy, and people have their views and they're going to express them."

"People know what you're doing and it's appreciated across the board. I don't care what people think of the policies; it's appreciated across the board."

In Washington, Democratic leaders failed Saturday to bring to the Senate floor a resolution denouncing Bush's plan to boost troop levels in Iraq. (Full story)

The two-sentence resolution, which passed the House on Friday with backing from 17 Republicans, says Congress supports the military but disapproves of Bush's plan.

Rice's visit to Iraq came as seven people were killed by dual car bombs in a crowded market in Kirkuk, about 150 miles north of Baghdad.

Kirkuk police officials said at least 83 civilians were wounded in the blasts, which went off in quick succession.

The city of Kirkuk is a major oil center and has a mixed population of Turkmens, Kurds and Sunni and Shiite Arabs.

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Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Viper2]

I happen to agree.

http://www.hizb-ut-tahrir.org/english/books/state/chapter_35.html

The Islamic Conquests Are To Spread Islam

The mission of the Islamic Ummah in life is to carry the Message of Islam to the whole of mankind, therefore the Muslims had to be in touch with the world. The Islamic State was thus obliged to carry out this task which Islam has decreed in order to convey the Message. It was inevitable that the State would conquer other countries and achieve this with great success.

These conquests were merely the implementation of an Islamic obligation, which is the conveying of Islam to people in a manner that would catch their imagination by implementing its rules on them and spreading its concepts among them.

Therefore the Islamic conquests were not designed to exploit and colonize people, nor were they made to take advantage of the resources of their land. The only aim was to carry the Message of Islam to them in order to save them from the miserable lives that they were leading and the corrupt regimes that they were ruled by. This is clearly apparent, for that is why the Islamic State was founded, the Islamic conquests carried out and jihad decreed.

The Islamic State was established on a very strong basis, an establishment that saw it grow and expand, spread and conquer other countries. The seed of its establishment was destined to bear a universal State, not a local one, because its ‘aqeedah is a universal one. It is an ‘aqeedah for mankind and its system is universal, designed, as it was, for all humans. Therefore, it was only natural for it to spread and to conquer other countries, the nature of its establishment makes this inevitable. There was the Messenger of Allah taking the second bay’ah of ‘Aqabah from the Muslims who pledged to fight alongside him all and sundry even if it led to the loss of their wealth and the death of their nobles, they pledged themselves to him in complete obedience in ease and in hardship, to tell the truth at all times. In Allah’s service they would fear the censure of none, they pledged themselves to the Messenger of Allah to fight to the death in the way of protecting the Islamic da‘wah and for their faithful service their reward would be Paradise. Those were the seed of the army of the Islamic State that carried the Message of Islam. Bearing all these factors in mind, why was this army established? What was its task? Was it not to carry the Message of Islam? Was that not the only reason for which they came and gave their pledge and were ready to die for its cause?

The Messenger of Allah had designed the plan of the conquests before his death. Once the Islamic state was established in the Arab Peninsula, he sent envoys to Chosroes and Caesar, this was part of his plan designed to spread the Message of Islam beyond the Peninsula which took place in the seventh year of Hijrah. He also sent envoys to other kings and princes inviting them to embrace Islam. His plan was also reflected in launching of the raids of Mu’tah and Tabuk and in the preparing of Usama’s army. The Khulafa’a who succeeded him as heads of the State pursued his plan and executed it by conquering first the countries he had sent envoys to, inviting them to Islam. Other conquests soon followed, again always following the same method and principle. That is why the Islamic State was never selective in the countries it conquered, it never made any difference to the Muslims how difficult or easy was their task. And although Egypt was relatively easy to conquer and its resources were considerable compared with the harsh Saharan climate of North Africa with its poverty, the Muslims never took those factors into consideration because their main aim and ultimate goal was to spread Islam. This necessitated the conquering of every country regardless of its poverty or wealth and regardless of the resistance put up by its people. The spreading of Islam and the carrying of its Message ignores the wealth or the poverty factor and the acceptance or the refusal of the people. The main aim is simply the conveying of Islam, to establish it as an intellectual leadership from which a way of life is derived. This Message should be carried to all mankind in all the countries.

The Qur’an has outlined for Muslims the reasons for fighting and the obligation of jihad, stressing that it should only be in the way of Islam and in carrying its Message to the world. The verses came thick and fast commanding the Muslims to fight in the way of Islam. Allah (swt) says in surah al-Anfal,

"And fight them on until there is no more oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah." [TMQ 8:39]

And He (swt) says in surah al-Baqarah,

"And fight them on until there is no more oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression."
[TMQ 2:193]

Allah (swt) says in surah al-Tawbah,

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the deen of truth, of the people of the Book, until they pay the jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
[TMQ 9:29]

These verses, among others, have commanded the Muslims to perform jihad and indicated to Muslims the aim behind the conquests. It was these verses that motivated the Muslims to conquer other countries.

Therefore, the carrying of the Message of Islam was the basis on which the Islamic State was founded and for which the Muslim army had been prepared. Jihad was decreed and this was the method followed in the conquering of other countries. The carrying of the Message is what would bring back to the Muslims the Islamic State.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But that's two in agreement.
2. Who has the Styrofoam balls to vote against us?
3. Will one of the Styrofoam ball filled liberals vote to be silent on Islamic atrocities?
4. All this and a bag of chips, right here on DF.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[bobbylien]

What would you do about it? Kill every muslim? Fine them? Nuke them all? Put them in camps? What?

[Buck Laser]

I'm sorry, but I lack the sense of righteousness to be able to say that I'm better than Muslims generally. I have this sneaking suspicion that God (and maybe even CWN's "Gawd") may love ALL his people. I don't recall his delegating to anyone around here the authority to decide who lives and who dies.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,




What would you do about it? Kill every muslim? Fine them? Nuke them all? Put them in camps? What?



1. But I guess,... this means, you would remain silent towards the Muslims then?
2. First person to reveal his Styrofoam balls.
3. What will push you to the edge of actually doing something?
4. A Nuclear attack?
5. On the East Coast.

BuckWheat wrote:
I'm sorry, but I lack the sense of righteousness to be able to say that I'm better than Muslims generally. I have this sneaking suspicion that God (and maybe even CWN's "Gawd") may love ALL his people. I don't recall his delegating to anyone around here the authority to decide who lives and who dies.


6. That's two who get the Styrofoam balls awarded to them.
7. I take it you too will remain silent.
8. Asking to be passed over, of the destruction that maybe coming to the USA any day.
9. Yes just be quite and lay low, maybe it won't happen over your head.
10. So this is how it pans out two for and two against, now,.... eh?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[AlonzoMourning23]

Chess, if you ever want to visit Uganda I'll pay for your trip. I know a nice christian by the name of Joseph Kony who would be more than happy to show you around. I may even be able to arrange for his followers to pick you up at the airport.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I will take that as a silent type.
2. Zo wins the third Styrofoam balls award.
3. I don't know why I would ever want to go to Uganda?
4. Can you give me a hint?
5. Why would you go to such an expense to get me there?
6. I find it funny you award winners are not actually voting.
7. Does it scare you to think that you might need to put a stop to this Muslim Madness?
8. Or do we just watch them blow themselves up for infinity?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Red Dragon]

Chess I pose to you a question, what if it was Christian extremists instead of Islamic extremists we were fighting against? Would you call for the deaths of all who worship Christ? I think not, you would be highly against from what I know of you. America will not and shall not ever kill based on faith along. I believe there's something in the bill of rights about that. If we did so we would become the thing we had been fighting against in the first place. We would become like the Nazis of world war two if we did such a thing. Now chess I leave you to ponder what I have said, and I hope maybe just maybe that you will free yourself from this blind hatred.

[Elrathin]

6. I find it funny you award winners are not actually voting.


I find it funny you put up a bogus poll with idiotic choices.

Hey Chess, here is a question for you, only answer yes or no. Have you stopped beating your wife?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,


[quote=Red Dragon]
Chess I pose to you a question, Â*Â*

CWN wrote:
Okay have at it.

RD wrote:
what if it was Christian extremists instead of Islamic extremists we were fighting against? Â*Â*

CWN Wrote:
No lets don't.

RD wrote:
Would you call for the deaths of all who worship Christ? Â*Â*Â*

CWN wrote:
Â*Insane talk, this is pure madness, name some examples?

***1. Although we would have nuked Germany if we had the weapon at the time before we beat them, so we used it on Japan, good came of it, they stopped fighting, and WWII ended.****

RD wrote:
I think not, you would be highly against from what I know of you. America will not and shall not ever kill based on faith along.Â*Â*Â*

Â*CWN wrote:
But our hand will be forced to use them, you are just to naive to understand this.


RD wrote:
I believe there's something in the bill of rights about that.Â*Â*

CWN wrote:
Sure its the right that we have to use them in order to stop them.


RD wrote:
If we did so we would become the thing we had been fighting against in the first place. Â*Â*Â*Â*

CWN wrote:
I think what will happen is that they will all gather together either way, lets say they set off a nuke here, we attack back of course we will, then they will try to do something else, then we will have to use more nukes on them.


RD wrote:
We would become like the Nazis of world war two if we did such a thing. Â*Â*Â*

Â* CWN wrote:
No they are the Nazi's your in some guilt trip brought on by the neoliberal media, you are on your own there dude.



RD wrote:
Now chess I leave you to ponder what I have said, and I hope maybe just maybe that you will free yourself from this blind hatred. Â*Â*Â*Â*

CWN wrote;
I have thought about it, and I have come up with the same conclusion time after time, its either us or them, I prefer it being them, and so does Gawd.


****2. Unless we are willing to allow ourselves to take a huge loss in civilians than sure do nothing, but their insane madness towards each other is magnified 100 times towards us.*****

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Professor]

I voted no. We can't sterotype as a group. All Muslims don't murder just like all Americans don't engage in prisnor abuse.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But you like many others have won the *Styrofoam Balls* award.
2. Reality bites at times.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

Sorry bout that,

1. But you like many others have won the *Styrofoam Balls* award.
2. Reality bites at times.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


So Chess have you stopped beating your wife? The answer is either yes or no. Or have you just won your own "Styrofoam Balls" award :D

[Red Dragon]

Chess I said what it was a hypothetical question which you did not give an answer to. So you say we should kill all muslims just because an extremist group could get a WMD and use it against us? Shall we extracte revenge against them for something they have not done and may not even do? That kind of thinking is pure lunacy, if we were to always do so billons would be dead.

I agree, extremists need to be neutralized. But that doesn't mean we should destroy others because they have the same religion or they live nearby.

Also, as for your question of examples of christian extremists? I give you Eric Robert Rudolph.

(Taken from Wikipedia. LOL, I'm guessing this is gonna be a "neo-liberal-anti-christian" site too, huh?)

Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American domestic Christian terrorist [1][2] who committed a series of bombings across the southern United States, which killed three people and injured at least 150 others. Rudolph is a Catholic,[3] but according to CNN was also "connected with the Christian Identity movement, a militant, racist, and anti-Semitic organization."[4] He declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion, what he describes as "the homosexual agenda," and perceived support for it from the United States government. He spent years as the FBI's most wanted criminal fugitive, but was eventually caught. In 2005 Rudolph pled guilty to numerous federal and state homicide charges and accepted five consecutive life sentences in exchange for avoiding a trial and the death penalty.

A friend of yours, CWN? Or did you just meet?

(Link: Click, CWN. It's a bit enlighening. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph))

It says that Rudolph was born in Merritt Island, Florida. Does that mean we should bomb the whole state of Florida, and anybody who lives or lived there?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But this one Catholic man, in comparison to all Islam is ridiculous.
2. One person who is Catholic, blowing up people isn't right, I admit that, but comparing one person to and entire group of people, who are taught from a baby to kill others not like them, in what they believe, even if its just a little different, example (sects).
3. Is another attempt of trying to compare a mountain to a mole hill.
4. A mole hill protrudes from the surface of the ground perhaps three inches and is one foot in circumference.
5. A mountain can protrude a mile or more high and be ten miles or more in circumference.
6. There is a very big deference.
7. Some day I will be considered the *Genius* on how to deal with Islam.
8. While you and many here will have to listen to your *Styrofoam Balls* squeak together as they rub each other.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

7. Some day I will be considered the *Genius* on how to deal with Islam.


I fail to see how you wanting to kill all Muslims makes you a genius.

[piratemonkey]

Kill 'em all!Â*Â*:rolleyes:

[Red Dragon]

Actually CWN he was part of a rather large group called Christian Identity. The Christian Identity movement first broke into the mainstream media in 1984, when the white nationalist organization The Order embarked on a murderous crime spree before being taken down by the FBI. It came to public attention again in 1992 and 1993, after the deadly Ruby Ridge confrontation, when it was discovered that Randy Weaver had at least a loose association with Christian Identity.

There are from 2,000 to 50,000 adherents of these groups in the United States of America[1], and an unknown number in Canada and the rest of the Commonwealth (former British Empire).

Christian Identity believers reject the beliefs of most modern day Christian denominations, and claim that modern Christian churches are teaching a heresy: the belief that God's promises to Israel (through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) have been expanded to create a spiritual people of "Israel," which constitutes the Christian "Church". In turn, most modern Christian denominations and organizations denounce Christian Identity theology as a heresy, and condemn the use of the Christian Bible as a basis for promoting anti-Semitism. Christian Identity adherents claim however that Europeans are in fact the true descendants of the Biblical Jacob - Israel and that it is those that are against the interests of European descended Christians that are the true anti-Semites.

A relatively new tenet gaining popularity among some radical Christian Identity believers justifies the use of violence if it is perpetrated in order to punish violators of God's law, as found in the Bible and interpreted by Christian Identity ministers and adherents. This includes killing interracial couples, abortionists, prostitutes and homosexuals, burning pornography stores, and robbing banks and perpetrating frauds to undermine the usury system. Christian Identity adherents engaging in such behavior are referred to as Phineas Priests or members of the Phineas Priesthood. This is an appealing concept to some followers, who believe they are being persecuted by an alleged Jewish-controlled U.S. government and society and/or are eagerly preparing for Armageddon, when Jesus will return and Jews, non-Whites and other non-Christians will be killed.

Anbody see a similarity between the two groups of is just me? Because they are the same evil just in different clothing,there's not much difference betweeen them and the islamic extremists.Â*Â*Also CWN you a genius, surley this must be a jest!

Seriously. Nobody is going to take you seriously if you calling for a massacre like this. Also, get off your high horse, please. It's a tad annoying to hear "THE GREAT CWN, LOLOLZ!" over and over.

(Psst! CWN! I advise that you remove the 'sir' from 'SirJamesOfTexas'. You are neither worthy nor deserving of the honorific term 'sir'.)

[Buck Laser]

I have to agree that Cheesy sometimes sounds like one of the "Christian Identity" dudes, but I don't think he'd last a day among them. He's too idiosyncratic, and too in love with popular culture ever to fit in with the Christian Identity folk. They'd rub him and scrub him and hang him out to dry in a minute.

By the way, a good introduction to Christian Identity can be found in Chris Hedges' book American Fascism. I just read it a couple of weeks ago, and I think it's vital to anyone who wants to understand how political conservatives are using Christian fundamentalists to their own ends. Over against these folk, Cheesy is harmless and funny. Nothing more.

[AlonzoMourning23]

3. I don't know why I would ever want to go to Uganda?
4. Can you give me a hint?


You could meet one of your christian crusaders in action. Joseph Kony is fighting for a christian state, to be ruled under the ten commandments. He has waged a war for about two decades in north uganda to do. His group has kidnapped children to be killed, raped (primarily girls), or used as soldiers. His soldiers have used rape and cannibalism as weapons. One guy, who surprisingly survived, has his arms, ears and nose cut off, and saw many people repeatedly raped and, at one point, was put in the middle of many others as Kony's soldiers smashed their heads.

The story of that man can be found here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/5129350.stm

[BoogyMan]

Hey Zo, you know as well as I do that claiming to be a Christian and being one are two different things. This Kony nutball may claim it but his demeanor and actions don't fit the pattern.

Radical Islam is a murderous bunch, it is just that simple.

[AlonzoMourning23]

And you know as well as I do that one of the most common ways to dismiss the radicals in your group is to say "They're not christian" or "they're not muslim".

Calling their actions unchristian or unislamic is one thing, but claiming they're not christian or not muslim is just a convenient way of dismissing them.

Now if a christian had never heard of Jesus or something like that, then you'd had good reason to say they're not christian. But few would fit that.

[bobbylien]

7. Some day I will be considered the *Genius* on how to deal with Islam.

Isn't it funny how radical retards like CWN all think that their views are above everyone elses? That we can't understand the brilliance of his ignorance and bigotry.. its insane but extremely funny. Nothing anyone could say will change his mind, hes just plain crazy. How can you deal with someone who doesn't think facts are important? You can't debate with them, its just an absolute waste of time debating with a retard.

[Buck Laser]

Hey Zo, you know as well as I do that claiming to be a Christian and being one are two different things. This Kony nutball may claim it but his demeanor and actions don't fit the pattern.

Radical Islam is a murderous bunch, it is just that simple.


Boogy, I think you're on dangerous ground here when you arrogate to yourself the authority to decide who's a Christian and who isn't. If I thought I could decide who is and who isn't a Christian, I wouldn't be able to call CWN a Christian. He doesn't like Muslims. He says you have to believe in creationism his way to be saved. He's sure God (or "Gawd") hates homosexuality (if not homosexuals), and he's convinced the world is gonna end Real Soon Now.

I am a Christian, and I don't believe any of the things CWN does. So who died and gave you the right to decide that this Kony chap, or the dude from Topeka aren't Christian. Inquiring minds really want to know.

[BoogyMan]

Hey Zo, you know as well as I do that claiming to be a Christian and being one are two different things. This Kony nutball may claim it but his demeanor and actions don't fit the pattern.

Radical Islam is a murderous bunch, it is just that simple.


Boogy, I think you're on dangerous ground here when you arrogate to yourself the authority to decide who's a Christian and who isn't. If I thought I could decide who is and who isn't a Christian, I wouldn't be able to call CWN a Christian. He doesn't like Muslims. He says you have to believe in creationism his way to be saved. He's sure God (or "Gawd") hates homosexuality (if not homosexuals), and he's convinced the world is gonna end Real Soon Now.

I am a Christian, and I don't believe any of the things CWN does. So who died and gave you the right to decide that this Kony chap, or the dude from Topeka aren't Christian. Inquiring minds really want to know.


MY bible speaks thusly in Matthew chapter 7.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

[Buck Laser]

I'd say your bit of proof text completely justifies my conclusion about CWN.

[BoogyMan]

I'd say your bit of proof text completely justifies my conclusion about CWN.


Buck if you have a problem with CWN, take it up with him, not me.

[Elrathin]

So Boogy, do you claim that CWNs actions do not make him Christian?

In other words Is CWN a Christian by YOUR definition of what a Christian is?

[Buck Laser]

I'd say your bit of proof text completely justifies my conclusion about CWN.


Buck if you have a problem with CWN, take it up with him, not me.


I've already decided that CWN is harmless. He has no more business deciding who's Christian and who's not than you or I do. But his fruits don't look all that healthy to me.

[BoogyMan]

So Boogy, do you claim that CWNs actions do not make him Christian?

In other words Is CWN a Christian by YOUR definition of what a Christian is?


El, the debate is not about CWN, take your issues with CWN up with him.

I am saying you will know them by their fruits in regards to that Kony character.

What actions has CWN taken by the way? I don't see news stories about him out slaying those with whom he disagrees El.

[Elrathin]

So Boogy, do you claim that CWNs actions do not make him Christian?

In other words Is CWN a Christian by YOUR definition of what a Christian is?


El, the debate is not about CWN, take your issues with CWN up with him.

I am saying you will know them by their fruits in regards to that Kony character.

What actions has CWN taken by the way? I don't see news stories about him out slaying those with whom he disagrees El.


My question was to YOU Boogy, not to CWN.

Don't worry Boogy, I never expected you to answer the question.

As for actions, Chess has said he would kill all the Muslims if he could. So is that very Christian? Never mind, forget the question, you'll dodge it anyway.

[BoogyMan]

My question was to YOU Boogy, not to CWN.

Don't worry Boogy, I never expected you to answer the question.


I never expected a question of such a divisive nature.

What actions has CWN taken by the way? I don't see news stories about him out slaying those with whom he disagrees El. You are basing your commentary on his "actions." What actions would those be?

[Elrathin]

I never expected a question of such a divisive nature.

What actions has CWN taken by the way? I don't see news stories about him out slaying those with whom he disagrees El. You are basing your commentary on his "actions." What actions would those be?


He has taken action to let us know he HATES Muslims Boogy. Again Iask, is that very Christian to HATE?

[BoogyMan]

El, has he said he hates Muslims or are you making an interpretation of such?

[AlonzoMourning23]

Chess has advocated killing all muslims. I don't remember if he ever used the term hate, but I don't really think there's a difference at this point.

Then again, I often think chess is simply mocking conservatives.

[Elrathin]

El, has he said he hates Muslims or are you making an interpretation of such?


You're right Boogy, how can I make the connection that he hates all Muslims just because he has SAID he wants to kill all Muslims. How foolish of Me. :rolleyes:

[BoogyMan]

Chess has advocated killing all muslims. I don't remember if he ever used the term hate, but I don't really think there's a difference at this point.

Then again, I often think chess is simply mocking conservatives.


I honestly think he jerks your chain with that stuff because it gets you so nice and frothy-mouthed. :)

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But what the hell happened to my thread here?
2. Gone out working for some 8 hours, and come back and find out this has turned into an *Attack The Great CWN* thread.
3. Just because I want a first strike on Islam, isn't meant to say I advocate killing all Muslims.
4. I never said that now did I?
5. I said in a way that we need to out do them, before hand, what they plan on doing to us as soon as they get the capabilities.
6. Which may be sooner than we think.
7. Could be this attack from them will bring on the end of the world, as we know it.
8. Could be no matter what we do to prevent it, could be futile anyways.
9. Times times and times and a half, could be upon this world any day now.
10. I am not blind to it.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[bobbylien]

Then what should we do chess? You tell us.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But what worked on Japan?
2. America used two nukes on Japan right?
3. They stopped warring against us am I right?
4. It worked back then, why wouldn't it work now?
5. I see no other way to end their madness.
6. I say we do it, we can afford a couple nukes, no problem.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[bobbylien]

But if it is the goal of every muslim to kill americans at any cost then why would they care if a few of them died from a nuclear bomb? If what you say is true then the only way to fix it is to kill all of them.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. So your saying we should just kill them all eh?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Anti-Racism]

2. It is concluded that Muslims murder out of practice.


Christians: Crusades
Jews: major players in USSR killing fields
Atheists: Pol Pot

I guess Hindus and Pagans are OK, then.

The rest of you religious people, hop into a nearby oven and get it over with!

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But the Crusades were the last time the Christians had a belly full of Islam, and fought back the hordes.
2. Times here folks again.
3. Otherwise you need to go buy a prayer rug, make sure you line it to the east.
4. Perhaps you would do well to hop into the oven.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Buck Laser]

Sorry bout that,
1. But the Crusades were the last time the Christians had a belly full of Islam, and fought back the hordes.


I guess Cheesy forgot about the religious wars of the Reformation in Europe. Catholics and Protestants did utterly unspeakable things to each other for several centuries. There were no "good guys" in those battles: Christians can be pretty lethal to each other. I'd need to look up some statistics on this, but I'd be willing to bet that more Christians died at the hands of other Christians than ever died at the hands of Muslims--and vice versa.

[bobbylien]

Sorry bout that,

1. So your saying we should just kill them all eh?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

I said that your strategy of sending a few nukes wouldn't work if every muslim is evil like you say they are. Just using a few nukes wouldn't do anything. You have to be smarter than this chess, think about your ideas for just a minute please.

[bobbylien]

It appears as though the CIA website has been attacked by terrorists. What other explanation could their be for this terrorist language on their website? https://www.cia.gov/cia/arabic_rewards.htm

[lily]

Sorry bout that,

1. But what worked on Japan?
2. America used two nukes on Japan right?
3. They stopped warring against us am I right?
4. It worked back then, why wouldn't it work now?
5. I see no other way to end their madness.
6. I say we do it, we can afford a couple nukes, no problem.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Only problem with that is we're not the only ones with nukes now. Should we just stop with the Muslims or should we throw some hetherns in too? I mean if we're going to kill, why stop there?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But sure stop with two.
2. Pick two cities randomly by lot.
3. Put all the cities names into a rolling plastic barrel.
4. Have two pop out like on the Lottery.
5. Have it broadcast on TV globally, and take the two cities out in 20 minutes.
6. Then they will all behave, from that time forward.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

So chess doesn't want to kill all Muslims, just murder millions instead. Gotcha. How very Christian of you Chess to want the death of millions of people.

If Chess had his way, Hitler would be nothing compared to Chess on genocide.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I am not running the country.
2. And more than likely never will.
3. I guess I might like it, having Gawd given power.
4. If Gawd wanted me to be *The President*.
5. Then I would be.
6. My views are *Biblical Based*.
7. And what ever I am proposing is what Gawd is going to do when he gets here anyways.
8. I agree with Gawd.
9. And Gawd isn't in agreement with Islam, at ALL!
10. The sooner you see this folks the better off you may end up being.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Red Dragon]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I am not running the country.
2. And more than likely never will.
3. I guess I might like it, having Gawd given power.
4. If Gawd wanted me to be *The President*.
5. Then I would be.
6. My views are *Biblical Based*.
7. And what ever I am proposing is what Gawd is going to do when he gets here anyways.
8. I agree with Gawd.
9. And Gawd isn't in agreement with Islam, at ALL!
10. The sooner you see this folks the better off you may end up being.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


And how do you know your God doesn't apporve of Islam? Has he sent you a memo of some sort? Besides if God did agree with you then wouldn't your idea be happening right now?

[bobbylien]

Sorry bout that,

1. But sure stop with two.
2. Pick two cities randomly by lot.
3. Put all the cities names into a rolling plastic barrel.
4. Have two pop out like on the Lottery.
5. Have it broadcast on TV globally, and take the two cities out in 20 minutes.
6. Then they will all behave, from that time forward.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Ooh yeah! Because they obviously care so much about their lives... take suicide bombings for example chess, they won't ever quit unless they kill or convert every Christian. I don't understand how you can believe they are all inherently evil and then believe that two bombs will stop them chess, it contradicts your own beliefs! You are just making this all up as you go.. I am more convinced than ever that you really are just making fun of conservatives.

[CheesyMuslim]

SOrry bout that,

1. But once we do this, then there will always be the threat that we will do a follow up.
2. This in itself is a huge deterrent.
3. As is the after math of the first strike.
4. They will get to feel what it is they hope to do to USA.
5. And what they will feel is utter despair.
6. And their futility in trying to ruin this Nation.
7. And begin to realize, that the USA is a *Super Power*, not your garden variety Nation.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

6. My views are *Biblical Based*.


Show me in the NT Chess where it says god wants YOU to kill Muslims. Go ahead and show me in YOUR bible where it says that.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But it doesn't say in the Bible, *CWN should be allowed to kill Muslims*.
2. Nice twist there Elrathin.
3. Hehehehehehehehehehe,...........

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

Sorry bout that,

1. But it doesn't say in the Bible, *CWN should be allowed to kill Muslims*.
2. Nice twist there Elrathin.
3. Hehehehehehehehehehe,...........

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Thank you Chess for proving once again that God does not want ANYONE to drop a nuke on Muslims. To suggest the idea of doing it, is not very Christian and not what God wants done. Thank you and have a good night.

[lily]

SOrry bout that,

1. But once we do this, then there will always be the threat that we will do a follow up.
2. This in itself is a huge deterrent.
3. As is the after math of the first strike.
4. They will get to feel what it is they hope to do to USA.
5. And what they will feel is utter despair.
6. And their futility in trying to ruin this Nation.
7. And begin to realize, that the USA is a *Super Power*, not your garden variety Nation.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Chess......you're confusing me. Do I have this right?

1. God wants America to bomb and kill Muslims, whether they are innocent or guilty?
2. God wants us to do this and he tells you that no one will strike back?
3. God wants us to do this, because America is somehow special to him, not the rest of the world or the universe?
4. Doesn't God have better things to do?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. I never said, Gawd wants this or that.
2. Your trying to feed me your script Lily.
3. I said that, *Gawd was going to do it when He gets here, and I agree with Gawd.*
4. What is so hard to understand Lily?
5. Even funnier you say Gawd wants us to do this and tells CWN that no one will strike America back. LOL!
6. America is special to Him, for sure, and has blessed this Nation from Sea to Shinning Sea.
7. If we were to do this it wouldn't matter to Gawd one bit, seeing he is planning on doing the same thing when He arrives some day.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,




Sorry bout that,

1. But it doesn't say in the Bible, *CWN should be allowed to kill Muslims*.
2. Nice twist there Elrathin.
3. Hehehehehehehehehehe,...........

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Thank you Chess for proving once again that God does not want ANYONE to drop a nuke on Muslims.Â*Â*To suggest the idea of doing it, is not very Christian and not what God wants done.Â*Â*Thank you and have a good night.


1. But I don't see how you get some kind of vindication out of my last post.
2. You have flipped your lid dude a rooney.
3. Your a strange bird.
4. Anyway, you think what it is you want, if it makes you feel better inside.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

1. But I don't see how you get some kind of vindication out of my last post.
2. You have flipped your lid dude a rooney.
3. Your a strange bird.
4. Anyway, you think what it is you want, if it makes you feel better inside.


So you're saying God does want a nuke dropped on Islam? Make up your mind Chess, first you say that God Doesn't say for anyone to do it, now you say he does. I think it is YOU that is confused.

If you think God wants a nuke dropped on Islam, PLEASE show me where in YOUR bible it says such a thing in the NT.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. No but your confused, not I.
2. You doing word games.
3. Think I'll pass.
4. I said what I said.
5. No you learn to read it for what it says.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

4. I said what I said.


Yes you said you wanted to drop a nuke on followers of Islam and that God was on your side. So prove it, show me where in the NT where God is on your side to kill followers of Islam.

Sorry Chess, your own words betray you.

[lily]

Sorry bout that,

1. I never said, Gawd wants this or that.
2. Your trying to feed me your script Lily.
3. I said that, *Gawd was going to do it when He gets here, and I agree with Gawd.*
4. What is so hard to understand Lily?

Ok.......so God is going to come down and nuke all the Muslims.......but I'm still confused. Why would God need to come and use a nuke? Also you say that you never said God wants this or that, but then you say he is going to do it when he gets here.

5. Even funnier you say Gawd wants us to do this and tells CWN that no one will strike America back. LOL!

No, actually it's been you saying what God tells you to say all along.
6. America is special to Him, for sure, and has blessed this Nation from Sea to Shinning Sea.

I don't think God wrote that song, Chess.


7. If we were to do this it wouldn't matter to Gawd one bit, seeing he is planning on doing the same thing when He arrives some day.

I wish you'd make up your mind!

[Elrathin]

7. If we were to do this it wouldn't matter to Gawd one bit, seeing he is planning on doing the same thing when He arrives some day.


Please show me where in the NT, Chess, that God wouldn't mind someone nuking followers of Islam.

[lily]

I'm really trying to make sense of this El. I don't think it's written in the NT, because God is going to come and kill all Muslims on his second coming........why he would want to do that, I have no clue and I wonder if he's going to throw hetherns into the bunch?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. One word, *Revelations*.
2. Its in there.
3. Read it.
4. Also in Old Testament.
5. Book of Danial for one.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. I doubt Gawd will use nukes, something much more Gawdly.
2. He knows best how to do what His will is.
3. But he will draw all the Jews enemies into his fire.
4. That you can count on.
5. Take it to the bank!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

1. One word, *Revelations*.


I see nothing in revelations that says god wouldn't mind someone else killing Followers of Islam as YOU have suggested to do and have said God wouldn't mind.

So yet again Chess, you have tripped on your words.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Your imagination is in full bloom.
2. Governing powers have a duty to protect their collective citizens.
3. Islam is a threat to America, including Islamic people who reside here.
3. a) Unless we take this threat seriously, and do something, over there, then those Islamic people here will get the idea, that this Nation is lacking the will to protect itself, and take us over.
4. I see nothing changing Islam ideals other than nuclear attacks.
5. There is no reason whatsoever for them to stop their madness.
6. Until we show them the line in the sand.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

Sorry bout that,

1. Your imagination is in full bloom.
2. Governing powers have a duty to protect their collective citizens.
3. Islam is a threat to America, including Islamic people who reside here.
3. a) Unless we take this threat seriously, and do something, over there, then those Islamic people here will get the idea, that this Nation is lacking the will to protect itself, and take us over.
4. I see nothing changing Islam ideals other than nuclear attacks.
5. There is no reason whatsoever for them to stop their madness.
6. Until we show them the line in the sand.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Chess, that is your opinion, but there is STILL NOTHING in revelations that says god wouldn't mind someone killing millions of people that follow Islam with a nuke.

Consider yourself refuted and have a nice day.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But you would be wrong as long as you ramble on with your continued train of thought.
2. But that's nothing new.
3. It is written about already.
4. You just do not know the Bible very well.
5. Consider yourself refuted.
6. Hehehehehehe,...I can't believe I just wrote that corny line.
7. Hehehehehehehehe,.....

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

3. It is written about already.

Then show us the chapter and verse it is in.


4. You just do not know the Bible very well.

Sorry Chess, I have read it and nowhere does it say that. But then all you have to do to prove me wrong is show the verse and chapter that it is in. But of course we know you won't because it is not in there.


5. Consider yourself refuted.
6. Hehehehehehe,...I can't believe I just wrote that corny line.
7. Hehehehehehehehe,.....

It's a corny line because you have said it when you haven't refuted anything.

My point still stands unchallenged.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I haven't the time to research it for you.
2. If you do not know the Bible as well as I, *The Great CWN*, then that's your problem.
3. "You have a nice day" there too.
4. Hehehehehehehehehehe,........
5. That's such a childish thing to say, and is LOL able every time I see some one write it.
6. Your exclamation that your right, and I'm supposed to have a nice day enjoying your correctness is LOL able.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

1. But I haven't the time to research it for you.
2. If you do not know the Bible as well as I, *The Great CWN*, then that's your problem.



In other words it isn't there. If you truly knew your bible you would know where it was and where to find it. You might try reading your bible sometime Chess, it would help you when you try to make a bogus argument.

This just proved "The Great CWN" is "The Great Fraud".

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. LOL !! able!!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

1. LOL !! able!!


Yes, you are everyday Chess.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. If Islam wasn't a murderous religion, then I wouldn't mandate this action.
2. I see no other way.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

1. If Islam wasn't a murderous religion, then I wouldn't mandate this action.
2. I see no other way.


As I said before you may have an opinion about Islam and even a solution, however, it is NOT supported by the bible. That is FACT as you can't even get a chapter and verse from a relatively small section of the bible.

So if you want to cheer the death of Milliions of Muslims by dreaming about nuking them so be it, but you are definitely not free from criticism for your genocidal thoughts.

[J316]

I think that we should be able to kill the radicals ONLY!! Not that I love the muslims, but why should we kill the innocent? that is not america. but the terrorists, by all means, NUKE THEM ALL!!!

[J316]

Sorry bout that,

1. No but your confused, not I.
2. You doing word games.
3. Think I'll pass.
4. I said what I said.
5. No you learn to read it for what it says.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


I am not even in the conversation and I am confused...

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Its a crime against humanity to be in Islam.
2. Gawd will one day come back to Earth and wipe them off the face of the Earth.
3. There is no other way.
4. Gawd's will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.
5. There is no Muslims in Heaven.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[J316]

Sorry bout that,

1. Its a crime against humanity to be in Islam.
2. Gawd will one day come back to Earth and wipe them off the face of the Earth.
4. Gawd's will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.


As you said "may gods will be done". Why Kill the innocent? God knows the right time to bring justice to his people. Look, I dont like Islam either, but we have a chance to save those who listen. Yeah, it may be a crime, but we can save the ignorrant from thier punishment.