Stop Guantanamo

[trefer]

Although War on Terrorism is important,nobody can allow to torturate prisoners. Guantanamo is even worst than the terrorism. Nobody can allow governments to injury people beacuse all of them are protected by the Geneve COnvention.

[gingeman]

Here, here. I doubt the majority of US citizens have heard of Guantanamo. What is happening is definitely worse than terrorism. The problem lies with the american media. If the population was better informed they would appreciate how their own governments manipulate them. The two largest terrrorist organisations of all time are White British and Americans. Guantanamo Bay is a crime against humanity of 9/11 proportions, but comparably nobody cares.

[rodeojones903]

Last time I checked, 3000+ people haven't died in Guantanamo.

[bmulligan]

I doubt the majority of US citizens have heard of Guantanamo.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find people that haven't heard of the detainment center in Guantanamo.

As far as it being the media's fault for undereducating the populace, I would also disagree with you. If anything, they are undereducating us by propogating detainees accounts of so-called torture with no corroborating evidence whatsoever. They've even misreported incidences like the destruction of the Korans which turned out to be completely false and never had the courage to apologize for defaming our millitary.

To the left leaners like you who obviously have a problem with being white, american, or british, the mere existence of a facility that curtails our enemies' freedom amounts to inhumane torturous behavior, even if they are being housed, clothed, provided with korans and prayer mats, and fed better that they were sustained in their home countries. Everyone cares somewhat about Guantanamo, I care that those who hate america and actively set out to destroy it can have a safe place to stay - away from doing me harm. Maybe you should care enough to go on a hunger strike of your own in solidarity with your brothers down there.

[AlonzoMourning23]

But considering that the majority weren't captured on the battlefield, and the majority were captured by bounty hunters in areas where reward advertisements were offered, the guilt of many are in doubt.

So we have a camp housing, in the minds of many, a decent amount of innocent people who are locked up indefinately with no way of disputing the charges against them. Sure there are some dangerous ones, but not all.

Then there's the negative PR it provides, aiding terrorists in recruiting new members. Wouldn't be suprised if it had aided in more terrorists recruits than the amount of terrorists it keeps locked up.

My favorite detainees are the guy with the "terrorist watch" and the severely brain damaged one who may be able to follow simple concrete commands. Then there's another guy who was able to get afghanis to vouch for him that he wasn't a terrorist or supporter, as the tribunal requested, but they wouldn't release him since the afghan government didn't respond.

They've even misreported incidences like the destruction of the Korans which turned out to be completely false and never had the courage to apologize for defaming our millitary.

That claim was made by a detainnee who hadn't witnessed it. In no way has it been "turned out to be completely false". That would require evidence proving otherwise. Saying "we do not have any good evidence that it occured" is not the same as saying it was "completely false".

And newsweek retracted the story and apologized.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Guantanamo detainees are not protected by the Geneva Conventions.

Beginning and end of rebuttal.

[Labrocca]

I agree that Guantanamo should be shut down. We should move all the prisoners to an UNDISCLOSED location and torture the heck out of them till we know all they have to say then just dump them in a hole. Oh wait..that's what Saddam did to the Iraq people before we showed up.


Guantanamo has been inspected over and over again by news media. There is nothing torturous going on there that's illegal imho.

[bmulligan]

Guantanamo has been inspected over and over again by news media.Â*Â*There is nothing torturous going on there that's illegal imho.


Yup, the red cross has inspected it multiple times and, heck, the UN wrote a scathing report on it without even bothering to go there and inspect it in person.Â*Â*

Alonzo, your point about "bounty hunters" providing many of the detainees instead of them being captured on the battle field provides little merit for your claim that they were innocents.Â*Â* One doesn't show up at the Guantanamo doorstep with random joe towelhead unless there was a bounty placed on his head in the first place for one reason or another.Â*Â*And with limited space, I doubt the US military wants to fill up the prison with as many innocent people as possible so they can feed and clothe them out of the goodness of their heart.

And also, their guilt or innocence is meaningless. It's a detention center, not a prison. The 9/11 hijackers didn't commit any crimes either until 9/11 and I damn sure would have rather had them in a detention center on 9/11 instead of Boston Airport.