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lily
01-26-2007, 12:49 AM
Link (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/25/oppenheim.cabbies/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)

If you drink, some cabbies won't drive
POSTED: 5:58 p.m. EST, January 25, 2007

p.m. ET.

By Keith Oppenheim
CNN




MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (CNN) -- It's always interesting to me, that in my
own country, I often get assignments where I walk into a room, and everyone
looks and sounds different from me. Different language. Different culture.
And sometimes, different beliefs.

On this story, I crossed such a threshold.

I stepped into the taxi depot that serves the Minneapolis - St. Paul
International Airport, where drivers sit and wait for their next fare. In
this crowded, noisy room, most of the cabbies are Muslims originally from
Somalia.

"We're doing a story about the conflict between the cabbies and the airport.
The Muslim drivers have been refusing to take passengers carrying alcohol,
such as wine or liquor purchased at a duty free shop," I explained.

A group of men gathered around us.

"This is America, we have freedom of religion," says one cabbie. We could
see their feelings are intense -- that the issue seems to cut to the core of
their identity.

"The Metropolitan Airport Commission is discriminating against us Muslim
drivers," says Abdulkaddir Adan, a Somalian-American who's been driving a
cab in the Twin Cities for two years.

We asked Adan if he'd give us a ride, and let us interview him while he was
driving. He agreed. CNN Photojournalist Derek Davis set up a "lipstick" cam,
a small camera, positioned on the dashboard.

From the back seat, I asked why Adan would object if I were carrying
alcohol.

"The one who drinks, the one who transports, and the one who makes a
business of it, they have the same category," he said.

"So, by my transporting my alcohol in your cab, you are sinning?" I asked.

"Sinning to God, yes," he replied.

Adan is not alone. About three quarters of the 900 cabbies serving the
airport are Muslim, and many have been regularly refusing passengers
carrying beer, wine or liquor.

In the past five years, 5,400 would-be taxi passengers at the airport were
refused service for this very reason, said the Metropolitan Airport
Commission, or MAC. Last May, passenger Bob Dildine says he waited for 20
minutes, and five cab drivers would not give him and his daughter a ride. He
was carrying wine he bought on vacation.

"They're here to provide service to people," said Dildine. "We were a lawful
customer, and we were denied service. That's not our way of doing things."

MAC officials said they don't know of any airport other than the Twin Cities
where this has become an issue. MAC officials explain that the area has a
growing population of immigrant Somalians, many who've sought jobs as taxi
drivers. Last year, MAC consulted local Muslim leaders, who issued a fatwa,
or religious opinion.

"It is expressly stated," said Kahlid Elmasry of the Muslim American
Society. "Transportation of alcohol for Muslims is against the Islamic
faith, and therefore forbidden."

Last September, airport officials sought a compromise, and suggested that
distinctive lights could be put on the roofs of cabs operated by drivers,
who will not transport alcohol. That way, taxi starters -- airport staff who
direct people into cabs -- could send passengers with alcohol to those
drivers who have no objection.

"But the feedback we got, not only locally but really from around the
country and around the world, was almost entirely negative," said airport
spokesman Pat Hogan. "People saw that as condoning discrimination against
people who had alcohol."

Right now, MAC says any cabbie who refuses a passenger carrying alcohol must
go to the back of the line. No small thing, given cabbies often have to wait
at the depot up to three hours for the next fare.

But because MAC officials have received thousands of complaints, they're
considering stiffer penalties: a 30-day suspension for a first refusal, a
two-year suspension for a second.

"We're now at a point where the drivers may have to make a choice," said
Hogan.

Adan is clear.

"I would leave my job, instead of doing something that's not allowed in my
religion," he said.

The interview with Adan took a long time. Our fare came to $150, a very good
day for him. Normally, he makes about $100 a day, so it became more clear to
us that refusing a fare is a big loss. But Adan said he won't accept the
idea that in America a cab driver should allow something his religion
forbids.

I feel the same way about this as I do about pharmacists that won't fill a prirscription for birth control or the morning after pill. If your faith doesn't allow you to do something, get another job.

Last September, airport officials sought a compromise, and suggested that
distinctive lights could be put on the roofs of cabs operated by drivers,
who will not transport alcohol. That way, taxi starters -- airport staff who
direct people into cabs -- could send passengers with alcohol to those
drivers who have no objection.

I was going to say, this sounded like a good compromise, just as in the cases of pharmacists that didn't want to dispense the pill, have another pharmacist on hand that would do it.......but then I read the next paragraph. So I still stick to my original opinion. If your religion doesn't let you do something, then find another job.

"But the feedback we got, not only locally but really from around the
country and around the world, was almost entirely negative," said airport
spokesman Pat Hogan. "People saw that as condoning discrimination against
people who had alcohol."

BoogyMan
01-26-2007, 12:55 AM
I don't know if there is such a thing, but if the drivers are independent and operating their own vehicle, I have no problem with this.

If the driver is working for a company that makes the rules for him he should follow the rules set out for him by his employer of he should get fired.

Anti-Racism
01-26-2007, 01:14 AM
I agree. People shouldn't be forced by government to hire or serve anyone. Unfortunately that's not true on many levels.

Elrathin
01-26-2007, 01:21 AM
I don't know if there is such a thing, but if the drivers are independent and operating their own vehicle, I have no problem with this.

If the driver is working for a company that makes the rules for him he should follow the rules set out for him by his employer of he should get fired.


Agreed, private companies can choose not to serve people who have been drinking and I see no problem with it. However, it should be the rules of the private company and not the cabbie that is working for them.

Alonzo
01-26-2007, 05:25 AM
I'm assuming these people are either working for themselves or working for a company that allows this behavior.

Considering that getting a cap typically isn't as urgent as getting a morning after pill or anything, I think it needs to be viewed differently.

Now if they're denying someone a ride to the hosptial then that should be illegal, or if you're hired by a certain company as the sole cabbie providing transportation. But a non emergency situation, such as an airport, I don't think it's a major issue.

wonder cow
01-26-2007, 06:27 AM
Agree with the prevalent sentiment that a private company can do what they want.

But what if the religion of a person forbid them from serving Christians in a restaurant they own? Or that Christians should only be served in a different area? Or should sit in the back of the bus, etc?

The fact that this has to do with people drinking is really not important, but rather the general concept.

Practice your religion right up to the point before it steps on my toe.

Elrathin
01-26-2007, 12:40 PM
Practice your religion right up to the point before it steps on my toe.


And to the other extreme, if a business shows Merry Christmas, should they have to take it down because you don't like it?

Sorry, but practices in religion need to be looked at on a case by case basis and not generalized just to appease the person that is offended by the religion.

In this case, the cabbies will not take people that have alcohol. That is their right and it is the right of the airport to tell them they have to wait in the back of the line to pick someone up.

My personal opinion is that if someone is doing a job in which at times would offend their religion to the point they can't do their job, then they should look for another job or deal with it.

BoogyMan
01-26-2007, 02:01 PM
Does anyone know if most of the hacks in that area are independent or whether these guys are working for a cab company?

If they are working for a company and violating its rules, if any, for passenger selection they should probably find other work.

Elrathin
01-26-2007, 03:17 PM
Does anyone know if most of the hacks in that area are independent or whether these guys are working for a cab company?

I don't know much about that area, but around the airport where I live, there are private cabbies. Although I haven't run across any Muslim ones.


If they are working for a company and violating its rules, if any, for passenger selection they should probably find other work.


Agreed, and IIRC I don't think there are any large Muslim owned cab companies. Also I know about the policies of the ones I know around where I live would have that cabbie fired in a heart beat if they refused a cab fare just because the passenger(s) were carrying alcohol.

Waffletush
01-26-2007, 10:01 PM
Practice your religion right up to the point before it steps on my toe.


And to the other extreme, if a business shows Merry Christmas, should they have to take it down because you don't like it?

Sorry, but practices in religion need to be looked at on a case by case basis and not generalized just to appease the person that is offended by the religion.

In this case, the cabbies will not take people that have alcohol.Â*Â*That is their right and it is the right of the airport to tell them they have to wait in the back of the line to pick someone up.

Close, but this is a case of someone being offended (ie not offering a service) BECAUSE of their religion; it is not a case of someone being offended BY the religion.

My personal opinion is that if someone is doing a job in which at times would offend their religion to the point they can't do their job, then they should look for another job or deal with it.


Agreed.

Curious though... if a cab driver is allowed to refuse to pick someone up because of a religious reason, should they still be allowed to service a government funded/ran facility such as an airport? Why should a religion be allowed to practice discrimination on government property?

Elrathin
01-26-2007, 10:31 PM
Close, but this is a case of someone being offended (ie not offering a service) BECAUSE of their religion; it is not a case of someone being offended BY the religion.

And if they are a PRIVATE ownership, they have the right to decide if they will serve you as well as you having the right not to give them your money.


Curious though... if a cab driver is allowed to refuse to pick someone up because of a religious reason, should they still be allowed to service a government funded/ran facility such as an airport? Why should a religion be allowed to practice discrimination on government property?

That is why the airport is taking the action they are doing. By forcing them to the back of the line, they are essentially denying them business. Cabbies end up a lot of times waiting normally 3 or more hours just to pick up a fare, imagine if you keep getting put to the end of the line. You get no business and have to look elsewhere.

If religion is going to get in the way of you doing your job, you should probably look elsewhere for a different line of work IMO.