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Stoner
01-20-2007, 08:20 AM
Which of these records is least likely to ever be broken?
Stoner
01-20-2007, 05:14 PM
I had to lean towards Cy Young's 511 wins. That one's never coming down. You would have to win 25 games a year for just over 20 years. Seeing the average pitcher gets around 35 starts a year this is beyond catchable.
Gretzky's 215 point season and Cobb's .366 career batting average are 2 other ones that may never be touched. Wooden's win streak is another.
Then of course you have DiMaggio. We all know about that one.
Guitarmitch
01-22-2007, 11:27 AM
Its Joltin Joe hands down. The only other untouchable is Gretzky. Season or career, take your pick.
NortheastCynic
01-22-2007, 02:54 PM
No one will ever throw 7 no-hitters again...ever.
-NC
Stoner
08-01-2008, 06:16 PM
This is an old but good thread I made when I was with the forums a while back.
I had to go with Cy Young's 511 wins. No pitcher will touch that nowadays. If a pitcher pitched 25 years and averaged 20 wins a season (a feat in itself) he would still be just shy.
All of these records will be hard-pressed to be broken. Gretzky and Wooden's are 2 others that are nearly impossible.
AlanC
08-01-2008, 06:23 PM
No one will ever throw 7 no-hitters again...ever.
-NC
I agree with this. No pitcher throws enought complete games to even approach this mark. Their goal is 6-7 innings now.
Next I would say that Dimaggio's record goes hand in hand with Ty Cobb's as being unbeatable because of the use of relief specialists and the structure of both the game and parks now days.
That type of consistent hitting is just about impossible now.
The same conditions of the game contribute to all three of these being unattainable in modern ball.
Stoner
08-01-2008, 06:27 PM
And don't forget no NCAA team will win 88 games in a row nowadays either.
Bottom line none of these are likely to be beaten but it's good discussion.
Mr. Orr
08-01-2008, 06:38 PM
No one is going to bat .400 again, or have a 56 game hit streak. Most impressive for me is a toss between Ripken and the hit streak.
Wndrtch
08-01-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm think'n Wilt Chamberain's 10,000 women record would be a tough one.
AlanC
08-01-2008, 06:39 PM
I'd say the most likely to fall would be Rice's career recieving yards. But that is only because of the changes in the game that allow players to play longer, and changes to the rules that allow recievers more opportunities than they had for most of Rice's career. But he was a freak. It is still not likely.
Mr. Orr
08-01-2008, 06:41 PM
I agree with that, Rice's record won't stand forever. I also think Gretzky's point record will go down eventually due to the changing game. I don't know that anyone will come allong with his ice vision, but the game's opened way up since his day.
Stoner
08-01-2008, 08:50 PM
I also think Gretzky's point record will go down eventually due to the changing game. I don't know that anyone will come allong with his ice vision, but the game's opened way up since his day.
I think his single-season point total will stand forever. That was an insane year.
Shoey
08-02-2008, 06:13 AM
Which of these records is least likely to ever be broken?
Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hit streak. I remember my late father telling me after Joe's hitting streak ended he went on another 14 or 16 game hitting streak. I'll have to Google that sometime if see if that's true.
Greatest baseball player of all time = Babe Ruth
Greatest basketball player of all time = Michael Jordan
Greatest boxer of all time = Muhammad Ali
I think the record that will never be broken is David Eckstein winning WS MVP again.
NortheastCynic
08-02-2008, 06:35 AM
Greatest baseball player of all time = Babe Ruth
Eh...I'd say Ted Williams, but that's a 1a. 1b. situation.
-NC
Shoey
08-02-2008, 06:41 AM
Eh...I'd say Ted Williams, but that's a 1a. 1b. situation.
-NC
The reason why I have Babe Ruth slightly ahead of Ted Williams is that Babe Ruth came up as a pitcher and still holds WS pitching records to this day. Ted Williams missed 5 years of baseball career due to military service. If the "Splendid Splinter" had not served, he "might" be the all time home run king.
AlanC
08-02-2008, 06:41 AM
Eh...I'd say Ted Williams, but that's a 1a. 1b. situation.
-NC
That's one discussion I think its so hard to have because of generational differences.
Ruth had records as a hitter and records as a pitcher for a long time.
Ted Williams is probably the greatest pure hitter to ever play, the war kept his stats from proving it.
But then Micky Mantel was the best baseball player I ever saw play. He had every tool in the book and its a shame he was more injury prone than the others.
But I have not seen anyone with his combination of speed, power and throwing ability. For pure talent he would be hard to beat.
Shoey
08-02-2008, 06:44 AM
But then Micky Mantel was the best baseball player I ever saw play. He had every tool in the book and its a shame he was more injury prone than the others.
I think it's safe to say that Mickey Mantle was without a doubt the greatest switch hitter of all time. I think Mickey Mantle was clocked at 3.1 seconds running to 1st base?
AlanC
08-02-2008, 07:22 AM
I think it's safe to say that Mickey Mantle was without a doubt the greatest switch hitter of all time. I think Mickey Mantle was clocked at 3.1 seconds running to 1st base?
Yep, he is the only power hitter I have ever seen able to bunt for base hits as well. And I've seen him throw absolute strikes to home plate from dead center field. His arm and accuracy were as remarkable as his hitting and running. He was a complete baseball player.
conservative
08-02-2008, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Stoner
I had to lean towards Cy Young's 511 wins. That one's never coming down. You would have to win 25 games a year for just over 20 years. Seeing the average pitcher gets around 35 starts a year this is beyond catchable.
I have to agree. Unless the game changes or is re-written it is a physical impossibility.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guitarmitch
Its Joltin Joe hands down. The only other untouchable is Gretzky. Season or career, take your pick.
No way...it has been shown over the years that the right ammount of luck it could happen...
1978 Pete Rose 44
1987 Paul Molitor 39
2006 Jimmy Rollins 38
2002 Luis Castillo 35
2006 Chase Utley 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by NortheastCynic
No one will ever throw 7 no-hitters again...ever.
-NC
I disagree...If you had a "Nolan Ryan" type pitcher come along...and he was throwing no-hitter's into the seventh or eigth...they wouldn't yank him. And besides, if he is throwing a no hitter his pitch count should be low enough to finish the game. A once in a generation player could do it.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Orr
No one is going to bat .400 again
I'd say that the .366 average is probably safe...(although Pujols is at .332)...but .400 is not. It would be a fluke year, but it can be done.
1994 Tony Gwynn .394
2004 Ichiro Suzuki .372
2000 Nomar Garciaparra .372
1980 George Brett .390
1977 Rod Carew .388
If you had the right player, batting eye of a Gwynn and Brett, and speed of Carew or Ichiro, combined together it is possible...Chipper Jones was hitting .390 up till a few weeks ago when he started having injury issues. It will happen.
Babylon
08-02-2008, 01:17 PM
Unless hockey changes dramatically, who's going to ever score 215 points again?
Personally, I think Hockey should open the floor back up to spur more excitement and become relevant again, but that's just me..
micfranklin
08-03-2008, 01:07 PM
I know there's more records than just these.
NortheastCynic
08-21-2008, 12:04 AM
I have the answer.
I am 100% sure that this record will never be broken by humans.
Cy Young's record of 749 [I bullshit you not] complete games.
What do I win?
-NC
Stoner
08-21-2008, 01:28 AM
I'm shocked no one has picked the 3 that are still unvoted for.
No college team these days will win 88 games in a row. That's over 2 years of going undefeated.
Ty Cobb's .366 lifetime batting average. That's plain sick.
Cal Ripken's consecutive game streak is pretty unbelievable as well.
All of these are great. I found this in a sports magazine. It was just a list of the 10 most unbeatable sports records.
AlanC
08-21-2008, 01:35 AM
They should add 8 swimming gold medals in a single olympics. Unless they add a whole bunch of events, that one is going to be there awhile.
Shoey
08-22-2008, 07:41 AM
Another record that I think that will never be broken is Tom Laundry's 20 year consecutive winning seasons as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in the NFL.
The Cowboys under Landry had their first winning season and their first NFL Eastern Conference championship in 1966. They didn't fall below .500 again until 1986. During that period, Landry's teams had 20 straight winning seasons, 13 divisional championship, five NFC titles and victories in Super Bowls VI and XII. The Cowboys also played in Super Bowls V, IX and XIII.
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=119
AlanC
08-22-2008, 08:30 AM
Another record that I think that will never be broken is Tom Laundry's 20 year consecutive winning seasons as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in the NFL.
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=119
Yep, that one too.
conservative
08-22-2008, 11:03 PM
How about Johnny Vander Meer's record two straight no hitters? In oreder to beat that you would have to throw three straight! Never happen!
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