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BoogyMan
01-14-2007, 02:23 AM
This was well said, how about telling the country what the democrat plan is for success since the democrats obviously don't feel that the president's plan is going to get the job done.


Source: Link Here (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/13/Bush.Dems.radio.ap/index.html)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Saturday challenged lawmakers skeptical of his new Iraq plan to propose their own strategy for stopping the violence in Baghdad.

"To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible," Bush said.

In a pitch to lawmakers and the American people, Bush said the United States will keep the onus on the Iraqi government to take charge of security and reach a political reconciliation. Democrats and many Republicans oppose the Bush plan to send 21,500 more U.S. troops into Iraq.

"We have a new strategy with a new mission: Helping secure the population, especially in Baghdad," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "Our plan puts Iraqis in the lead."

The president asked for patience from lawmakers who grilled Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when they testified before Congress in defense of the president's new plan.

Democratic leaders in the House and Senate intend to hold votes within a few weeks on Bush's revised Iraq policy. The nonbinding resolutions would be one way to show their opposition to any troop buildup and force Republicans to make a choice about whether they support the president's plan.

Rep. Tim Walz, D-Minnesota, said that he, along with most Democrats and an increasing number of Republicans, believe sending more troops compounds a bad situation. Walz, a veteran of the war in Afghanistan, said diplomatic and political solutions are needed, not more troops.

"Before moving forward with this escalation, we owe it to these troops, to their families, and to all Americans to ask the tough questions and demand honest answers about this policy," Walz said in the Democrats' Saturday radio address.

"Is there a clear strategy that the commanders on the ground believe will succeed?" Walz said. "What are the benchmarks for success, and how long does the president believe it will take to achieve them? Is this a policy that will contribute to the America's security in the larger war on terror, or distract from it?"

Bush: Those who oppose plan must 'offer alternative'
"Members of Congress have a right to express their views, and express them forcefully," Bush said. "But those who refuse to give this plan a chance to work have an obligation to offer an alternative that has a better chance for success. "

In his radio broadcast, Bush replayed the highlights of his Wednesday night address to the nation.

He said the 21,500 troops being sent to Baghdad and Anbar province, a base for al Qaeda, have a changed mission.

"This time there will be adequate Iraqi and U.S. forces to hold the areas that have been cleared," Bush said.

Bush said Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has pledged that political sectarian interference with security operations will not be tolerated. "This time, Iraqi and American forces will have a green light to enter neighborhoods that are home to those fueling sectarian violence," he said.

The president also said the United States will hold the Iraqi government to its pledge to take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November, pass legislation to share oil revenues among all Iraqis and spend $10 billion of its own money on reconstruction that will create new jobs.

"The Iraqi government knows that it must meet them, or lose the support of the Iraqi and the American people," Bush said.

lily
01-14-2007, 03:02 AM
This was well said, how about telling the country what the democrat plan is for success since the democrats obviously don't feel that the president's plan is going to get the job done.

Boogy........the ISG, the joint chiefs, Abazaid, Casey, Maliki and the Democrats have already told him.

Cobra
01-14-2007, 03:03 AM
Okay here's my plan, pull out all troops or atleast pull them back to safer areas around the oil and let the Iraqis do what they will.

BoogyMan
01-14-2007, 03:22 AM
Cut and run is not a plan. I know you guys are against this war, but if we run and Iraq falls the context for the broader region to explode is set.

Cobra
01-14-2007, 03:29 AM
Cut and run is not a plan.
Sure it is.
I know you guys are against this war, but if we run and Iraq falls the context for the broader region to explode is set.
Yes that would suck but we don't know it's going to happen and where not really achieving much in Iraq right now besides dead Americans. We can't bring stability with the army we have, it's just too small for a country that size if the Iraqis aren't going to help and with the tribal fighting it's clear they're not.

lily
01-14-2007, 03:36 AM
Cut and run is not a plan.Â*Â*I know you guys are against this war, but if we run and Iraq falls the context for the broader region to explode is set.


I know you are more intelligent than that Boogy. None of the people I mentioned said anything about cut and run. Nice try though.

BoogyMan
01-14-2007, 03:38 AM
I know you are more intelligent than that Boogy. None of the people I mentioned said anything about cut and run. Nice try though.


Lily the ISG specifically is for quick pullout of troops. As for the others I would like for you to posit their consistent plan for success?

Cobra
01-14-2007, 03:49 AM
I still think the prez should listen to and go with my plan.

lily
01-14-2007, 03:54 AM
Lily the ISG specifically is for quick pullout of troops.Â*Â*As for the others I would like for you to posit their consistent plan for success?


I think you may be wrong in the Iraqi study group, Boogy. As for the others, you know perfectly well what the Democrats plan is and that Casey and Abizaid have consistantly said more troops are not needed. As for Maliki, he changes his mind depending on the last call he got from Bush. Now he doesn't even want the general from the Kurds, because he doesn't want him to go after al-Sadr. (http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/01/11/ap3321682.html)

Study Group Plans
By The Associated Press 01.11.07, 12:53 PM ET


A comparison of President Bush's new plan for Iraq with the recommendations
of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group:


TROOPS

Bush: Send another 21,500 troops to help squelch the violence in Baghdad and
the Anbar province. Embed more troops with Iraqi forces as advisers. No
timetable for withdrawal of troops.

Iraq Study Group: Temporarily increase by about 16,000 the number of troops
devoted to training and equipping the Iraqi forces. Plan a gradual
withdrawal of U.S. combat troops, with a goal of bringing the bulk home by
early 2008.