Flea_Bit_Monkey can't be warned.

[Labrocca]

From now on because Flea_Bit_Monkey is so special he can no longer be warned. He is above reproach. I will instruct the moderators not to warn him since every warning he gets has "bias" according to him.

However...I encourage EVERYONE to add him to your ignore list. IMHO he isn't worth debating or even reading his posts. He has shown me that he can't be mature enough to handle honest debate nor accept authority of others if he doesn't agree.

Enjoy FBM...and you are now officially on my ignore list as well. If you add FBM to your ignore list I ask that you post here.

This is what happens when you fuck with the bull...you get the horns. Enough is enough.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

since every warning he gets has "bias" according to him.


This is a deliberate lie on your part. I have gotten some warnings that I deserved, but I have also gotten some based solely on bias.

If you had any courage you and your mods would openly discuss the obvious double standard you allow your mods to practice. Instead you post this childish rant.

In probably vain hope that you will eventually decide not to simply pretend your mods are not biased and that I am at fault, please explain why my last warning was a personal attack when similar attacks made by liberals were said not to be personal attacks by lily.

We all know you have no answer except this little tantrum of yours.

[Labrocca]

Awe...shame I can't see your post. I am sure it's infuriating or annoying. Luckly I don't see it.

la la la

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

Awe...shame I can't see your post. I am sure it's infuriating or annoying. Luckly I don't see it.

la la la


LOL, it doesn't bother me a bit, although that you think it does provides me a little amusement.

[Labrocca]

la la la!

Ahh...finally some peace.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

LOL, yea, you really seem at peace :rolleyes:

It is amusing to think of you there with you fingers in your ears going lalala, I've never seen a grown up do that.

[Labrocca]

I'm sorry...did you say something? Can you maybe speak up? I can't hear you for some reason.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

a sphincter says what?

[Nitrus]

This user is on your ignore list. You can edit your list here.

He repeats himself an awful lot. :D

[ECW]

He's one of the reasons I asked you to fix the Ignore feature. He's been on it from Day One. Makes life a lot easier since I no longer have to wonder "Is he a conservative today?" or "Is he a Liberal today?" because officially he is nothing today... and everyday from now on. I used to enjoy engaging him but I quickly tired of arguing with someone who considers their opinion as fact but never brings proof with him when he makes the claim and then bashes you when you do. Adios!

[Nemo]

“am�, “is�, “are� - such troublesome little words. How often they cross, and, in the heat of argument, come to blows. One would do well to avoid them, if only for the sake of preserving one’s teeth.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

ass sphincter says what?

[Stoner]

Just curious, Labrocca...I'm not saying he deserves it but if you feel so strongly about him why not just ban him?

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

Well, he probably will at some point, it's that or admit he is covering for his biased mods, but he probably doesn't want to ban someone who hasn't broken the rules in any substantial way.

Really, all I asked for is a solid reason to explain the latest double standard in moderation. Labrocca figures that ignoring me for asking the question is better than answering it, which pretty much proves my point about biased mods.

[Stoner]

Well, FBM, I'm not telling you what to do at all but just keep in mind you're in someone elses house. Always show a little respect.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

Well, FBM, I'm not telling you what to do at all but just keep in mind you're in someone elses house. Always show a little respect.


I've shown a lot more respect than I've been given, IMHO.

If I am given a false warning for a personal attack by alonzo, and Labrocca says "well, it wasn't a personal attack but the warning stands because you were rude", that is a lack of respect toward me. This is a constant event here where biased mods are allowed to abuse their power against posters of differing ideology, without censure.

[Labrocca]

It's a good honest questions why I don't ban him. To be fair...I hate banning members. Also I have a feeling banning him won't really give me satisfaction of annyoing him nearly as much as he has annoyed the entire staff (and members for that matter). I am contemplating automatically adding him to EVERYONE's ignore list by default. I have shut my eyes to him and it feels oh so good.

And to be more honest...I like Flea to a certain extent. He isn't a bad guy in my view...just one that likes to push buttons as often as he can. This is my way of pushing back some. I realize it's probably below my maturity level but oh let's just have some fun.

Really it gets tiring getting PMs about "liberal mod bias". I read the posts...I see the warnings. Most are justified and a few are borderline but hey...it's just a couple points for crying out loud. Only 1 user has ever been banned from warning points (lovely_brunette_girl) and she certainly deserved it. The other bans were members who were unwilling to be respectful to the spirit of the forums and enter into honest civil debate.

Well Flea...I can't read your posts but I hope your are having a good time in your exile.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

He isn't a bad guy in my view...just one that likes to push buttons as often as he can.


And what is giving warnings for no rule broken if not pushing buttons.



I read the posts...I see the warnings. Most are justified and a few are borderline but hey...it's just a couple points for crying out loud.


This is Labrocca's constant answer as well, "it's just a couple points, it doesn't matter".

If it doesn't matter, why give me warnings I don't deserve? Obviously he and the mods feel they matter.

And anyway, Labrocca could answer the point of if the warnings are deserved or not, instead he does this, tries to coerce people into ignoring me, and threatens to mandate that I be ignored if not enough people volunteer.

Doesn't that tell you the bias is real?

[bobbylien]

If you ever grow up FBM I'll remove you from my ignore list...

[Nemo]

As Korzybski observed: “The ‘is’ of identity plays great havoc with our s.r. [semantic reaction] as any ‘identity’ is structurally false to fact.Â*Â*An infant does not know and cannot know that.Â*Â*In his life, the ‘is’ of identity plays an important semantic role, which, if not checked intelligently, becomes a pernicious semantic factor in his grown-up reactions, which preserve the infantile character and with which adult adjustment and semantic health is impossible.â€�Â*Â*Alfred Korzybski, Science and Sanity, An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics (1933).

[wonder cow]

If I ignore FBM, who will I mock and ridicule? It gets old slamming on chesswars.;)

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I like FBM.
2. I see his belly bitching as minor.
3. Let him bitch.
4. I bitch about stuff all the time.
5. Most my posts are bitch based.
6. I'm more bitchy in the mornings.
7. Sometimes I can pitch a big bitch at nights as well.
8. His bitching is rather mild bitching.
9. Bitching about how stuff is done here is kinda weak bitching.
10. FBM needs to expand his horizons and bitch about stuff that really matters.
11. Bitching about being given a warning is lame, warn me all you want, just don't ban me and change my name.
12. Like what happened to PAD, I always liked PAD, he was a bud here of mine.
13. But he got a little to bitchy how things were being done, and not focused on his bitch.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[NortheastCynic]

The difference is Chess, that you are entertaining and more good-spirited in you bitching, I almost look forward to it :).

-NC

[ECW]

As Korzybski observed: “The ‘is’ of identity plays great havoc with our s.r. [semantic reaction] as any ‘identity’ is structurally false to fact.Â*Â*An infant does not know and cannot know that.Â*Â*In his life, the ‘is’ of identity plays an important semantic role, which, if not checked intelligently, becomes a pernicious semantic factor in his grown-up reactions, which preserve the infantile character and with which adult adjustment and semantic health is impossible.â€�Â*Â*Alfred Korzybski, Science and Sanity, An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics (1933).


Hey! That's what I was going to say...

[Labrocca]

Sorry bout that,

1. But I like FBM.
2. I see his belly bitching as minor.
3. Let him bitch.
4. I bitch about stuff all the time.
5. Most my posts are bitch based.
6. I'm more bitchy in the mornings.
7. Sometimes I can pitch a big bitch at nights as well.
8. His bitching is rather mild bitching.
9. Bitching about how stuff is done here is kinda weak bitching.
10. FBM needs to expand his horizons and bitch about stuff that really matters.
11. Bitching about being given a warning is lame, warn me all you want, just don't ban me and change my name.
12. Like what happened to PAD, I always liked PAD, he was a bud here of mine.
13. But he got a little to bitchy how things were being done, and not focused on his bitch.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Yeah but you don't send me PM's bitching about the same crap over and over.Â*Â*We all like to bitch..that's why we are here.

BTW...I just remembered I own bitchforum.com and bitchforums.com :)

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But bitchin,.......
2. Those are two cool site names.
3. How much you selling one for?
4. If its cheap enough who knows we might be able to make a deal.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Labrocca]

I don't plan to sell them. Maybe I would for $xxx though. I hope one day to make a great forums for people to bitch and moan about life.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

11. Bitching about being given a warning is lame, warn me all you want, just don't ban me and change my name.


It's more than that, it's lily deleting a liberal posters personal insults to me and not giving him all the warnings he deserved to get to keep him from being suspended.

But even getting a warning I don't deserve is a valid reason to bitch. All the mods have to do is make sure they are being consistant.

Labrocca doesn't help the situation either, when alonzo gives me a 4% warning for a personal attack when I didn't make a personal attack (not the first time that has happened) and Labrocca says it stands, even though it wasn't a personal attack, because I was rude.

If you want to give warnings for people being rude, then frigging make it against the rules. If you know I bitch when I get warnings I don't deserve and you give them anyway, then complain about the bitching, who's fault is that?

[ECW]

I don't plan to sell them.Â*Â*Maybe I would for $xxx though.Â*Â*I hope one day to make a great forums for people to bitch and moan about life.


Not to beat a dead horse but will there be a special section for a certain person who is currently on Ignore who cannot seem to quit bitching about stuff and get on with it? Just wondering...

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

This user is on your ignore list. You can edit your list here.

Ah, such a wonderful thing to see!

[wonder cow]

Flea, lets put everyone on our ignore list except each other and then use the forum to piss and moan at each other. That sounds like fun to me.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But why even bother allowing this warning biz from the mod team to bother you when it doesn't even count for squat?
2. Who really cares if you get a warning, even if it isn't justified in your view?
3. Takes a few days for it to disappear.
4. So whats the difference?
5. FBM just let it go, this isn't some kind of test to see who does not get a warning or if a warning was justified or not.
6. It makes no difference one way or the other.

Regards,
SirajmesofTexas

[Nitrus]

Well said that man.

[wonder cow]

FBM just let it go

*chesswars demonstrates a surprising lack of understanding of the very nature of a pissing contest*

[Buck Laser]

FBM just let it go

*chesswars demonstrates a surprising lack of understanding of the very nature of a pissing contest*


It could be that he likes pissing into the wind.;)

[Labrocca]

I don't plan to sell them.Â*Â*Maybe I would for $xxx though.Â*Â*I hope one day to make a great forums for people to bitch and moan about life.


Not to beat a dead horse but will there be a special section for a certain person who is currently on Ignore who cannot seem to quit bitching about stuff and get on with it? Just wondering...


lol...maybe I should add a redirect for Flea so that whenever he hits the site it redirects him to bitchforum.com :)

[wonder cow]

maybe I should add a redirect for Flea so that whenever he hits the site it redirects him to bitchforum.com

Or, redirect him to a special page on this forum, made just for him.

[ECW]

...one perhaps where he can bitch to his heart's content and the rest of us can get on with discussing issues instead of listening to (and Ignoring) a week long whine fest that has no resolution. If we want to join him there we would have to sign in so we could bitch as well but otherwise he would be there and we would be here.

Sounds good. I vote yes.

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

Or, redirect him to a special page on this forum, made just for him.


Well, it would be the most intelligent part of the forum, and the only part of the forum moderated well :D

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

1. But why even bother allowing this warning biz from the mod team to bother you when it doesn't even count for squat?
2. Who really cares if you get a warning, even if it isn't justified in your view?
3. Takes a few days for it to disappear.


Well, at one time I was building warning points faster than losing them, it's why I left the forum for a month, to zero my warning points. Labrocca has since changed the expiration from 1/2 points a day to one, but for a while lily was successfully moving me toward suspension while protecting a liberal poster by not giving him points he deserved.

But aside from that, if warning points really don't matter, why are they given? Why give meaningless warning points? If they are meaningful enough to be given, they are meaningful enough to make protest when given wrongly.

Also, when given wrongly they are a good indication of the bias of some moderators, right?

I for one would like to open the moderation up to the sunshine, make it public so we all can see moderator warnings for everyone. To me it seems that would better assure honest, unbiased moderation.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. I was wondering where you went, ECW said he ran you off, glad he didn't.
2. You perhaps took the warning system to seriously.
3. And My posts are much more bitch based than yours.
4. Maybe your making your posts a bit to personal, try being more general in your rants.
5. You have a lot to add to this site, and I like what you have to say, and support most everything you say here.
6. Which is a huge vote of confidence when *The Great CWN*, backs you.
7. As far as looking into the moderation's like a fish bowl, I don't think they could stand that, and it wouldn't be fair to them.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Viper2]

Down with FBM - tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

Down with FBM - tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail


Yea, what he said! Make FBM the scapegoat!

[Flea_Bit_Monkey]

Sorry bout that,

1. I was wondering where you went, ECW said he ran you off, glad he didn't.

LOL, he wishes. ECW is like poodle in a pit bull yard when it comes to debate.



Sorry bout that,

7. As far as looking into the moderation's like a fish bowl, I don't think they could stand that, and it wouldn't be fair to them.


And how is it fair to me to be the target of bad moderation?

If I was a mod I would have no problem with complete sunshine.

[Waffletush]

And how is it fair to me to be the target of bad moderation?

Squeaky wheels get the oil.

[Labrocca]

4 days enough of this.Â*Â*I took him off my ignore and decided to place him on a better list...the BAN list.

See ya.

edit: I just went back to read the 4 days of posts...I definitely made the right decision to perma ban him. I even think this thread goes to show the extent of his bitching to me about liberal mod bias. He just can't let it go and move on...and over a few freaking warning points...jeez how petty can you get. This guy really created hassle for the staff and I. We should coun't how many times he calls the mods "liberal" or says "liberal bias" in this thread. It's ridiculous. He wants consistency and we all do...however there is no standard for personal attacks. It's something that only good experienced moderators can interpret and even then they can be wrong. Screaming about liberal bias moderation isn't gonna cut it with me.

Topic locked as it's time to move on.