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Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 06:48 PM
It's sad that the worst president in modern history, Carter, pushes people away by being anti-jew.

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=85859

14 Carter Center advisers resign in protest over book

The Associated Press - ATLANTA

Fourteen members of an advisory board to Jimmy Carter's human rights organization resigned on Thursday to protest his new book, which criticizes Israeli policy in the Palestinian territories.

The resignations from The Carter Center board are the latest backlash against the former president's book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," which has drawn fire from Jewish groups, been attacked by fellow Democrats and led to the resignation last month of Kenneth Stein, a center fellow and a longtime Carter adviser.

"You have clearly abandoned your historic role of broker in favor of becoming an advocate for one side," the departing members of the Center's Board of Councilors told Carter in their letter of resignation.

Buck Laser
01-11-2007, 07:30 PM
Have you actually READ the book, or are you just going on what others say?

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 07:36 PM
Do you need to read mein kampf to know hitler wasn't fond of jews?

Buck Laser
01-11-2007, 07:46 PM
Actually, I read Mein Kampf because I was curious about it. I've read a fair number of similar pieces from Ann Coulter.:P

So you don't REALLY know what the Carter book says.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 07:48 PM
So you don't REALLY know what the Carter book says.


I know the title alone accuses the jews of practicing apartheid.

Buck Laser
01-11-2007, 07:52 PM
So you don't REALLY know what the Carter book says.


I know the title alone accuses the jews of practicing apartheid.


No, it doesn't. It accuses Israel of using apartheid-like tactics. There IS a difference, though I doubt that you'd be perspicacious enough to recognize the difference.

Oh. And welcome back to MY ignore list.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 08:03 PM
No, it doesn't. It accuses Israel of using apartheid-like tactics.


No, it doesn't. It doesn't say "apartheid-like tactics", it says "apartheid".

sbannon
01-11-2007, 08:07 PM
Kudos to Carter for taking a solid stand, if that's indeed what he did. I haven't read the book so can't comment on the content or his positions, but if folks are resigning because (in their words) he "abandoned your historic role of broker in favor of becoming an advocate for one side", then I'd have to question their commitment in the first place.

Being diplomatic is a very good thing, and Carter's proven himself to be one of the best since leaving the White House, but lets remember that sometimes some people are just plain wrong and a firm stance is appropriate.

Again, I'm not commenting on any specific position or Carter's book content as I haven't read it, I'm simply pointing out that there are times when even a broker can and should say "here's the line in the sand".

piratemonkey
01-11-2007, 08:24 PM
I know the title alone accuses the jews of practicing apartheid.


So if you are unwilling to look at the evidence (the book), explain to us how what Isreal is doing isn't apartheid.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 08:34 PM
First off, the use of the word itself is indication enough of Carters intents, he could have used the word segregation, they have the same meaning but not the same impact. By choosing the word apartheid Carter shows without a reasonable doubt that he has decided the reasonable jewish response to terrorism should be fought, which has as a predictable result of more dead jews.

Couple that with a large group close to Carter and the book that quit in disgust over Carter being one sided against the jews, what other evidence do you need?

NortheastCynic
01-11-2007, 09:48 PM
FBM, you're confusing anti-semitism with anti-Israel. There is a difference.

-NC

bobbylien
01-11-2007, 10:47 PM
I'm suprised that someone who claims to be intelligent doesn't seem to know the meaning of the word anti-semite...
A person who discriminates against or is prejudiced or hostile toward Jews.
He is critical of Israeli foreign policy, not a racist as the title suggests. I side with Israel as far as Carters comments go but calling him an anti-semite is just plain stupid.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 10:53 PM
What other reason could Carter have to accuse Israel of apartheid?

NortheastCynic
01-11-2007, 11:28 PM
Maybe, must maybe he disagrees with the tactics of Israel, as opposed to hating Jews in general.

-NC

Buck Laser
01-11-2007, 11:48 PM
I'm suprised that someone who claims to be intelligent doesn't seem to know the meaning of the word anti-semite...


Flea Bit claims to be intelligent?:D
Who knew?:P

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 11:58 PM
Maybe, must maybe he disagrees with the tactics of Israel, as opposed to hating Jews in general.

-NC


Then why would he up the rhetoric to claim apartheid rather than using a less worded word like segregation?

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-12-2007, 12:00 AM
I'm suprised that someone who claims to be intelligent doesn't seem to know the meaning of the word anti-semite...


Flea Bit claims to be intelligent?:D
Who knew?:P


I just claim to be smarter than a liberal, which is true for all monkeys.

bobbylien
01-12-2007, 11:08 AM
Maybe, must maybe he disagrees with the tactics of Israel, as opposed to hating Jews in general.

-NC


Then why would he up the rhetoric to claim apartheid rather than using a less worded word like segregation?

Because hes an intelligent man, set aside his terrible presidency... hes still a smart man. They both mean the same thing so whats the difference?


I just claim to be smarter than a liberal, which is true for all monkeys.
You are so full of yourself.

NortheastCynic
01-12-2007, 11:29 AM
So...Because he used the term "apartheid" instead of "segregation" he hates all Jews...It's all so clear to me now.

-NC

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-12-2007, 02:48 PM
So...Because he used the term "apartheid" instead of "segregation" he hates all Jews...It's all so clear to me now.

-NC



And because people are leaving him in droves due to his anti-antisemitic book.

But mainly because his take on the situation is completely one sided, it's like someone blaming blacks for slavery.

NortheastCynic
01-12-2007, 04:26 PM
"and because people are leaving him in droves due to his anti-semitic book"
That you haven't read.

This really isn't a big deal FBM, the guy is wrong about Israel and probably an idiot, but it is impossible for any of us to say that he's anti-semetic.

-NC

BoogyMan
01-12-2007, 04:32 PM
I don't know that I could say he was an anti-semite, a useful idiot for the anti-israel left is apropos, but I will have to do much more reading before I use that term.

I have indiscriminately used that term in the past and learned my lesson.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-12-2007, 07:36 PM
This really isn't a big deal FBM, the guy is wrong about Israel


It's not just that he is wrong, it is that he has deliberately chosen the anti-Israel side, ignoring reality that he is aware of and resorted to loaded words like apartheid.


Those are the deliberate steps of a man with a bias against the jew.

alias
01-12-2007, 08:32 PM
I was in my late 20s during Carter's presidency. I remember those days very well. What a complete utter failure. After Nixon, America wanted an impotent president because of the previous abuse of power. We got what we wanted. I voted for him. Of course, I can use the excuse that I was young and dumb, which I was.

sbannon
01-12-2007, 08:39 PM
So...Because he used the term "apartheid" instead of "segregation" he hates all Jews...It's all so clear to me now.

-NC



And because people are leaving him in droves due to his anti-antisemitic book.

But mainly because his take on the situation is completely one sided, it's like someone blaming blacks for slavery.

Actually, I think Carter would say it's more like blaming whites for slavery... but I'm guessing from the way you worded it that you're equally one-sided as Carter, just on the other side?

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-12-2007, 08:42 PM
but I'm guessing from the way you worded it that you're equally one-sided as Carter, just on the other side?



If you are suggesting that I am biased against anti-semites, the answer is yes.