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lily
01-11-2007, 03:36 AM
Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16568507/site/newsweek/)

A Crisis of Confidence
Bush's way forward may be sensible. But his face showed fear—and that's no
way to rally a war-weary nation.

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Howard Fineman
Newsweek
Updated: 52 minutes ago
Jan. 10, 2007 - George W. Bush spoke with all the confidence of a perp in a
police lineup. I first interviewed the guy in 1987 and began covering his
political rise in 1993, and I have never seen him, in public or private,
look less convincing, less sure of himself, less cocky. With his knitted
brow and stricken features, he looked, well, scared. Not surprising since
what he was doing in the White House library was announcing the escalation
of an unpopular war.

The president may well be right that we cannot afford to leave or lose in
Iraq . He makes profound sense when he observes that a collapse of Iraq
would mean the rise of a giant version of the Taliban's Afghanistan—with a
million times the oil in the ground.


But if he was trying to assure the country that he had confidence in his own
plan to prevent that collapse, well, a picture is worth a thousand words.
And the words themselves weren't that assuring either. Does anyone in
America or Iraq , or anywhere else in the world for that matter, really
think that the Sunnis and Shia will make peace? Does anyone think that
embedded American soldiers won't be in danger of being fragged by their own
Iraqi brethren? Does anyone really think that Iran and Syria can be
prevented from playing havoc in Iraq and the rest of the region by
expressions of presidential will?

George Bush had the look of a man who knew he had made a royal hash of
things in reaching for what most enlightened people would say was a noble
goal: a stable, antiterrorist Iraq.

In his televised address about Iraq, the president used the book-lined
backdrop of the library in the White House to evoke the midwar FDR. This was
supposed to be the kind of matter-of-fact, detail-filled radio address that
the Old Man gave each week through the course of the last Good War.

Problem was, Bush had long since forfeited the political credibility that
FDR was able to maintain through his presidency. Roosevelt made huge
mistakes, and the rules of the times allowed him to hold back much
information. But the public believed him in his role as a leader of the
Western World. Luckily for Roosevelt, he was on the radio for the most part.

Bush's political problem is not so much that he has lied to the American
people—though he may well have done so—but that he seems for years to have
been lying to himself.



What the voters saw on TV just now was a man struggling to come to grips
with his own unwillingness to face facts. It's still a struggle. His
acknowledgement of mistakes was oblique and not as brave as it sounded at
first blush. Mistakes were made, and he said. "The responsibility rests with
me," he said. What he meant to convey was that others had made the mistakes,
but that he was stepped up to take the hit. Hoo-aw! He said that he had
"consulted" congressional leaders of both parties before he came to a
decision on sending more than 20,000 additional troops. He didn't really
consult with members of Congress, and certainly not with Democrats, unless
you consider Sen. Joe Lieberman a Democrat.

Forty years ago, another president from Texas escalated an unpopular war. A
famous Washington columnist, James Reston, described Lyndon Johnson's
leadership as "war by tantrum."

This Texas president doesn't operate through tantrums, and this wasn't a
tantrum. This is an expression of grim determination, based on a moral
vision, a worthy if perhaps unrealistic goal, and a fierce hatred of being
branded a loser. I could tell you lots of stories about just how much Bush
hates to lose, and always has.

The president's chances of success, such as they are, now rest with the
reasonableness and details of his plan. Will it work? His says that his
generals "report" that it will. Do the American people believe that it will?

I'm not sure that they are really listening, but if they were watching, they
can't have been reassured by the man they saw in the basement of the White
House.

sbannon
01-11-2007, 04:06 AM
I think Fineman's assessment is a bit harsh. Lets remember that the president had to appear somewhat humble and worn, after all he is asking an angry public to support his decision to place 20,000+ more of their own onto the battle fields of an unpopular war. Even if you don't believe that sending more American troops into this mess that seems to have no end doesn't weigh on Bush's conscience--and I'd bet it actually does--he at least had to appear as though it did. A far worse version would have been the cocky and arrogant Bush that Fineman seems to have expected/wanted making tonight's speech.

I'm sure there's some truth to the idea that Bush's confidence has been rattled. How could it not be, unless he were catatonic? But Fineman also got it wrong about Bush trying to assure the public he had confidence in "his own plan". Bush was trying to convince the public that this plan is not his own lone wolf idea, but rather a united strategy forged from the best input from political and military leaders in both the United States and Iraq. To that objective, I thought he scored some points.

I'm curious if Fineman has spent as much time pondering the substance of tonight's speech as he has the delivery?

lily
01-11-2007, 04:11 AM
But Fineman also got it wrong about Bush trying to assure the public he had confidence in "his own plan". Bush was trying to convince the public that this plan is not his own lone wolf idea, but rather a united strategy forged from the best input from political and military leaders in both the United States and Iraq. To that objective, I thought he scored some points.

I'd hardly call Leiberman a united strategy, sbannon. I'm going to have to re-read the speach, I don't recall him mentioning who gave him ideas, unless you mean the mention of Baker/Hamilton, who he completely ignored.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 04:21 AM
I didn't see fear in Bush's face, it sounds like wishful thinking. But then Fineman has always been a bit of an idiot.

sbannon
01-11-2007, 04:27 AM
Lily, my comments, like and in reply to Fineman's, were on the delivery and not the substance of the speech. I didn't mean to imply that I agree with (or buy into) the idea this was a united strategy, just that the way he framed it, having opened with assuming responsibility for failures and then moving on to having talked with leaders, experts, the military here at home and gained consensus and full cooperations from those in Iraq--that was intended to package the plan as a united strategy, and to a degree I think he pulled that off. I'll bet he pulled some support from it, but it'll be a day or so before we see.

Sure he's ignoring the ISG, but by tipping his hat to them as he announced it less people will ask why.

lily
01-11-2007, 04:34 AM
Sbannon, I still agree with Fineman. He looked scared, or maybe it could be tired. Either way, it's no wa to look when you are trying to sell why more Amercan troops are needed, when the majority of Americans don't want it, his generals and the joint chiefs don't want it.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 04:39 AM
Bush didn't look scared, that's just wishful thinking, or maybe letting fineman do your thinking for you.

Nemo
01-11-2007, 01:03 PM
"Bush's political problem is not so much that he has lied to the American people—though he may well have done so—but that he seems for years to have been lying to himself."
- Howard Fineman, Newsweek
. . .

There are many forms of deceit from the little white lies we tell in our private lives to the blackest calumny in the councils of public affairs.*Deception infects every aspect of human intercourse.**Some lies are told for the sake of oneself, some for the sake of others, and all for the sake of convenience, which is the bastard child of corruption.**Even so, no lie can live alone; it must be supported by a whole family of falsehoods.**But President Bush has engaged in the most foolish deception of all, that of deceiving himself.

CheesyMuslim
01-11-2007, 01:59 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But some people and Presidents still believe in This Country.
2. Some People still believe in the over all goodness of This Nation.
3. Some People believe that the whats and whys of this war on Islamic factions is justified.
4. Otherwise, we abandon Our Constitution, and give this Nation over to Islam.
5. Some Liberals are betwixt two opinions.
6. They support This Nation, sort of and at the same time attack its cause.
7. Unless they learn to support this Nation in every cause they are the ones lying to themselves, not The President of the United States, President G.W. Bush.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Nemo
01-11-2007, 02:10 PM
Integrity is the sine qua non of character; without it you are nothing.**Personal integrity begins with being true to oneself; for, as Shakespeare put it: “Thou canst not then be false to any man.” Hamlet, Act I, Scene iii.**Thus, integrity requires honesty to oneself and others.****

President Bush lacks personal integrity; he is living a lie.**He is a rich boy, pretending to be a “good ol’ boy” from Texas, a war leader who shirked his duty to serve his country, a “born-again” Christian who never reads the Bible or practices what the Scriptures teach, a “compassionate conservative” whose compassion is meanspiritedness.**He is an ass parading as a zebra; but he is still an ass for all his false stripes.

Buck Laser
01-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Integrity is the sine qua non of character; without it you are nothing. Personal integrity begins with being true to oneself; for, as Shakespeare put it: “Thou canst not then be false to any man.” Hamlet, Act I, Scene iii. Thus, integrity requires honesty to oneself and others.

President Bush lacks personal integrity; he is living a lie. He is a rich boy, pretending to be a “good ol’ boy” from Texas, a war leader who shirked his duty to serve his country, a “born-again” Christian who never reads the Bible or practices what the Scriptures teach, a “compassionate conservative” whose compassion is meanspiritedness. He is an ass parading as a zebra; but he is still an ass for all his false stripes.


I'd say you've pretty well nailed it, Nemo. But I did catch a hint that Bush was aware of his total inauthenticity as he was hyperventilating during the first five minutes or so of his speech. I really don't think he was engaged at all. I had the feeling that he was thinking "if I can just get through this, I can have a drink and a nap--or a bike ride."

I've been surprised at the widespread negative assessments, not only from the pundits, but from a good many republican politicians. NPR's Morning Edition carried several negative reactions from soldiers in military towns. I have a feeling that we may be approaching a meltdown.

Flea_Bit_Monkey
01-11-2007, 06:15 PM
It's pretty sad that the liberals here spend most of their time in ad hominum attacks on Bush. It shows a strong lack of character.