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Our Leaders Failed
04-01-2006, 08:21 AM
The truth is out.Â*Â*The “truthiness” is no longer in doubt.Â*Â*There is a minimum of one confirmed concentration camp built on American soil in rural Wyoming.

Okay, many have heard the rumors, dismissed them as kook theories, believed by nobody, perpetuated by the ABB (Anybody but Bush) crowd or as a topic of interest for the Art Bell and Jeff Rense radio audience.

An undisclosed DHS (Department of Homeland Security) order was placed with DigitalGlobe (http://digitalglobe.com/) to photograph the near completed work camp facility only listed by location as “central Wyoming” on the mistakenly published photographs.

DHS accidentally placed these photos on a publicly accessible portion of their website on March 28th and they were pulled within one hour.Â*Â*Fortunately Google had cached the images.Â*Â*They too though have been removed in the past 48 hours.Â*Â*The images are not gone forever though.Â*Â*

I am employed by a civil rights organization and due to the sensitive nature of these images I wish to remain anonymous. However these images must get out.Â*Â*Someone must be the whistleblower, someone must warn the American public what the Bush Administration has in store for dissidents, political opponents, civil libertarians and “fifth columnists” as defined by the Justice Department.

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There has been plenty written about this topic and plenty of historical evidence to back up this is a clear and present danger.

2006 Press Releases (Official KBR Press Release)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: January 24, 2006

KBR AWARDED U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CONTINGENCY SUPPORT PROJECT FOR EMERGENCY SUPPORT SERVICES

ARLINGTON, Virginia – KBR announced today that its Government and Infrastructure division has been awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract to support the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL).

With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

“We are especially gratified to be awarded this contract because it builds on our extremely strong track record in the arena of emergency operations support,” said Bruce Stanski, executive vice president, KBR Government and Infrastructure. “We look forward to continuing the good work we have been doing to support our customer whenever and wherever we are needed.”

The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.
Link (http://tinyurl.com/cffe3)

Concentration Camps Being Built on US Soil? Published by the Daily Kos
Link (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/29/175431/539)

Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace.

Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and access to the courts by declaring them enemy combatants.
Link (http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/08.15B.ashcr.camps.htm)

History of Executive Orders

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and ?aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...

National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916 authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Actenables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

PittsburghAfterDark
04-01-2006, 08:55 AM
Scary stuff.

How's that tinfoil hat sized?

Little tight?

Labrocca
04-01-2006, 03:00 PM
Well in the event of war or disaster one would think the government could do what it needed.

AlonzoMourning23
04-01-2006, 07:03 PM
Ya know, if you really had inside info you wanted to get out, then you'd anonymously pass it along to the press. Instead you chose to post it on an upstart message board with less than 80 members.

Though even one of your links said it would be irresponsible to refer to it as a "concentration camp". It seems like it has to do with illegal immigrants if they suddenly needed a place to put them. I don't actually support that in any way, but concentration campe is going a little far.

Though I have to admit that when I read this I started thinking of limbaugh's rendition of "they're coming to take me away"

Churchel
04-04-2006, 03:19 AM
Scary stuff.

How's that tinfoil hat sized?

Little tight?


Is that the best you can do?

KBR Concentration camp in Wyoming, whodathunkit?

AlonzoMourning23
04-06-2006, 11:10 PM
Besides the OP's comment, what makes you think it's a concentration camp?

Old Corps Gunny
04-07-2006, 05:53 PM
1.Â*Â*How does someone who has not registered manage to post such garbage on this site?

He was a registered user. I don't know what happened to him.

Old Corps Gunny
04-07-2006, 05:58 PM
P.S. I find it difficult to attach credibility to your claim for "anonymity" when you don't even have to use your real name when posting. I mean, do you really think "Old Corps Gunny" is on MY birth certificate.

Nemo
12-30-2006, 01:38 PM
Hobbes maintained that men readily trade their liberty, the right to do as they wish, for security. See Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan (1660). Indeed, one need only look to the Patriot Act of 2001 and the Military Commissions Act of 2006 to see that this is true.

ne_cvoboden
12-30-2006, 03:27 PM
But what you don't realize is that rights are an individual property, they can't be 'collectivly' given up, they are possessed by the individuals and have to be given up one by one without coercion. To mimic your view, you could say people trade money for security, as seen by armed robbery.

bobbylien
12-30-2006, 03:41 PM
Whatever it is I'm sure the republicans haven't done anything to shut this waste of our tax dollars down.

Professor
12-30-2006, 05:25 PM
Assumming this is legit it is completely unacceptable. I am currently reading Citizen 13660 by Mine Okubo (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0295959894/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-8181595-8463861#reader-link). It's about the Japanese concentration camps. It was unethical and unacceptable then and it is now as well.

Thirdparty
01-17-2007, 03:45 PM
What garbage. More scare tactics from the left.

AlonzoMourning23
01-17-2007, 06:16 PM
Guys, this was a second account from PAD (changed to IraqBeforeDay after he was banned), an old staff member. He did it as a joke. He just wanted to laugh at liberals.