Would You Move for Your (Political) Beliefs?

[firefox]

The Free State Project's First 1,000 Pledge has just attained the 1000+ signatures needed. There is another rip-off (literally!) movement called the Christian Exodus Project, which seeks to create something of a theocracy in NC. I hope and assume they will fail, but still. There is also an Ave Maria, FL under construction. It will be a Catholic community and is funded primarily by the curren CEO of McDonalds(?). He's some rich and famous chain store magnate I know that.

Anyway, the point of this poll is this: Would you "vote with your feet" for your beliefs (political/social/religious), as I and many other Americans are? Why or why not?

[Labrocca]

It's part of the reason I did move. I was tired of the liberal politics of NYC and having the Clintons in my state. They don't deserve ANY power in NY.

[Elrathin]

It's about as silly as moving out of the country because Bush is president IMO.

[ECW]

I moved to Texas to balance out having a Chimp as a governor.

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But you moved to Texas, because * The Great CWN *, lives here!
2. Hehehehehehehehe,........

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[ECW]

Sorry bout that,

1. But you moved to Texas, because * The Great CWN *, lives here!
2. Hehehehehehehehe,........

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


That, too.

<smirk>

[firefox]

It's part of the reason I did move.Â*Â*I was tired of the liberal politics of NYC and having the Clintons in my state.Â*Â*They don't deserve ANY power in NY.


Way to go, Labrocca! What state are you in now, btw? I agree. Whatever happens, Hellary must not get the nomination!

[firefox]

It's about as silly as moving out of the country because Bush is president IMO.


How so? The way I see it, not much else seems to be working anymore. If you are a political/religious/whatever minority, concentrating your efforts seems like a good plan. That way, the others can't as easily divide and conquer.

[NortheastCynic]

I'm a Libertarian who is quite content in NOT moving to New Hampshire thank you very much. I understand why some people move for their political beliefs, i.e. the FSM, but sorry, not for me. I have to like the area that I live in and I'm not the New Hampshire kind of guy, I'm more of a Boston or NYC kind of guy and that's where I see myself when I'm able to afford either one of those cities :P I appreciate what the FSMers are doing, but as I said, it's not for me.

-NC

[firefox]

OK where are you now?

[MAP2010.wireless]

The Free State Project's First 1,000 Pledge has just attained the 1000+ signatures needed. There is another rip-off (literally!) movement called the Christian Exodus Project, which seeks to create something of a theocracy in NC. I hope and assume they will fail, but still. There is also an Ave Maria, FL under construction. It will be a Catholic community and is funded primarily by the curren CEO of McDonalds(?). He's some rich and famous chain store magnate I know that.

Anyway, the point of this poll is this: Would you "vote with your feet" for your beliefs (political/social/religious), as I and many other Americans are? Why or why not?



I moved to California from Texas and there is a lot about California I think is not right, but I like California because its got great weather and better paying jobs. And because I work for myself there is more money to be made.

I'm really not sure what "Christian Exodus Project" is but I'm not too happy with Church as Law, I have my way of being a Christian and so do many others. I don't want one person telling every one how to be a Christian, Plus you have the right to not be a Christian as much as I have the right be a Christian. I stand for yours rights and if they want to force people into being Christians it would be wrong, like it would be wrong for someone forcing me to not be a Christian.

Mark Pendergraft


Edit: Found this

They don't look as it they are theocracy or even close, they are way to small to have any pull. America is really one of a kind, no other is really close, but that don't mean people will not try to change it. Its to bad even bad people hind themselves as good people, People can say they are Christians and lead people the wrong way.

http://www.theexodusproject.org.uk/themes/exodustheme/images/jde_image_lft.jpg

About Us
The Exodus Project is a Christian youth outreach project based in Falkirk. It is a joint endeavour by three of the town centre churches - St. Andrew's West, Falkirk Baptist and Olivet Evangelical. Events take place monthly on a Saturday and consist of streetwork, a drop-in cafe and an event. We have had bands, film nights, quiz and games nights.

The idea for the project first appeared in 2003 when the three churches were approached to host a youth conference. At one of the planning meeings we were discussing what sort of work we would like to see being done in the town with young people. We discovered that we shared a common vision and the basic idea for the project was born.

The idea then lay dormant for nearly a year - actually, not dormant, just biding its time - before being kick-started again. So, in August 04 we had a one-off event just to get the ball rolling. By this time we had the chance to have a Firestarters group onboard to help us out. In September 04 we started our regular monthly events and have been going since then.

There are three strands to our youthwork project - streetwork, drop-in cafe and some sort of activity.

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Copyright 2005 The Exodus Project

[NortheastCynic]

OK, where are you now?Boston for school, Western Mass [which sucks] when I'm out.

-NC

[Nemo]

The Duchy of Grand Fenwick

[firefox]

OK, where are you now?Boston for school, Western Mass [which sucks] when I'm out.

-NC


Interesting. What's your major? I'm Politics & Government. Have you considered NH and the Free State Project? 8-) Fewer "massholes", as they are called (so I'm told at least).

[Mayberry]

Maybe yes, maybe no. I'm watching the Free State Project, and the Christian Exodus with interest. I'd like the Carolinas a hell of a lot better than New Hampshire (too damn cold up there!) But I love my home here in South Texas. Great weather (most of the year), great fishing, lots of open space, an outdoorsman's paradise! I've been to New England, the "leaving this town" sign is painted on the back of the "entering this town" sign. Yuck, too crowded (considering where I'm from of course, the nearest sizeable town to Corpus Christi is an hour away!). Personally, I'd prefer relocating to Bermuda, Bahamas, or Saint Somewhere, but my wife won't go for it :(

[NortheastCynic]

Interesting. What's your major?
Political Science.

Have you considered NH and the Free State Project? 8-) Fewer "massholes", as they are called (so I'm told at least).I've considered it, but I'm a city kinda guy [being originally from Jersey, and Connecticut] and am very attached to Boston. We'll see what happens, but I'm unsure as of right now.

-NC

[Viper2]

When my family and I plan a move, it is based on many factors, least of which is political.

Besides, if everyone around you thinks and acts the same, and agrees on almost everything, it IMHO would be boreing as hell.

“If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.�
General George S. Patton

There's nothing wrong with reasonable disagreement, besides adversity should build character.

The, "G" forces will stand our ground and fight the onslaught :D

[firefox]

Viper, that's the difference between you and me. I don't have a family, career, or anything else of major significance holding me back yet ;). I want to get active and make a positive difference now before I get bogged down with "better things to do". That said, were there any attractive activism projects when you were younger (not moving proper)?

[Viper2]

Viper, that's the difference between you and me. I don't have a family, career, or anything else of major significance holding me back yet ;). I want to get active and make a positive difference now before I get bogged down with "better things to do". That said, were there any attractive activism projects when you were younger (not moving proper)?


Then you must decide what your priorities are, what your goals and objectives are for the next 1, 3, 5, and 10 years - you know, plan your work and work your plan.

Even if I were still single, I wouldn't move based on politics, but that's me.

I was extremely active in the Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts and Explorer Scouts from 8 thru 17 inclusive, and went into the Air Force right out of high school at 17. I was involved in a myriad of projects that were Scout / Community related, and didn't pay much attention to things that I personally felt were a waste of time and effort.

[firefox]

I was in scouting too- Webelos through BSA. I finished with Life rank, and I might have made Eagle if my counselor hadn't randomly died of a heart attack and/or stroke ;). Were you in OA? I was, but I was only mildly active, as I found that clique to be just a *little* too into it, let's say...

[Pookie]

Absolutely not. The Constitution is applicable to the US no matter where you are and if you give up and leave, you give up your voice. Phooey on that! Yeah, yeah, I've seen the petitions here in NC. I have stood up to some of these people and told them to go find another country. Try Somalia. Pfft on them!
Hugs,
Pookie

[firefox]

Somalia would be slightly less crappy if the US DoD and CIA weren't rewarding their friends/punishing their enemies over there! Back to the topic, however: Your constitutional rights are NOT being respected. In every state. Therefore, the most logical course of action is to concentrate one's efforts in one area to serve as a model for the rest of the country. What do you like about this particular idea?

[Mayberry]

you give up your voice I have no voice. I am no longer represented by anyone. The only ones represented are the corporations and "special interest" groups with money for lobbyists. I voted for the independents, unless my only choice was Republican or Democrat. Then I voted based on who had the least lousy voting record. I only voted for one Democrat, and that was the local county judge. He lost. So essentially, no one I voted for won, except for a few insignificant local races. The people of this country need to wake up and smell the manure, and vote all the bums out. This, unfortunately, will never happen.

[Pookie]

I'm not giving up my voice as an American and I will work to squish anyone who tries to silence me. I will refuse to move and I will refuse to give into the noise those make who want to control me. Yes, we need to be models and not put up with being silented. Ain't gonna happen here, hasn't so far. I have taken on the local government by not being silent and got four resolutions passed. I will never give up.
Hugs,
Pookie

[firefox]

That's cool, what were they about? I've been to various local meetings myself.