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lovely_girl_brunette
12-09-2006, 04:57 AM
Democrats are Anti-Bush. All Anti Bush spent billions of dollars to spread propaganda against Great president GEORGE W BUSH.No muslim support or vote for Pres GWB ever to bring down The Terrorist Czar eliminator.Muslim support Anti Bush and they funded dumbcrats secretly to join together bringing down a Great Leader (GWB).media always have all the time to report alleged abuse of Troops overseas against muslim.media portray the terrorists in Abu Gharaib as Victim but never tell the story of American Troops heroism,story of courage,story of Duty,story of fallen heroes in unmarked grave in desert who never make it.Great America troops unselfish act is forgotten by negative media funded by Muslims.This is an open secret conspiracy by all Anti Bush.Democrats is Enemy of America as they create war inside America.LONG LIVE GREAT PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH !!!!!

underdawg
12-09-2006, 05:44 AM
So if you think that all Democrats are the enemy of America, what do you think should be done to all the Democrats in America Lovely_Girl_Brunette? Do you think that half the population should be sent to Gitmo? What do you suggest?

Disenfranchised
12-09-2006, 05:50 PM
Lovely, it wasn't the Democrats that took America to war in Afghanistan or Iraq. It was the Neo-con Republicans. It was George H. W. Bush who took us to war with Iraq the first time. And it is the Democrats who are working the hardest to stop the senseless fighting and bring our troops home. George W. Bu$h is not a great president. He is a lier and very incompetent. He has done more to harm the standing of America in the world than can yet be emmagined. He has done more to set the country back than can be told. There is only one thing I can think of that he has done well. He has overseen the greatest transferr of wealth from the common people to the very very few who are already very very rich.

BoogyMan
12-09-2006, 06:58 PM
First off, Lovely, this kind of commentary certainly doesn't bring about honest debate. It fosters little more than name calling.

Now, on to the commentary by Disenfranchised.


Lovely, it wasn't the Democrats that took America to war in Afghanistan or Iraq.Â*Â*It was the Neo-con Republicans.Â*Â*It was George H. W. Bush who took us to war with Iraq the first time.Â*Â*And it is the Democrats who are working the hardest to stop the senseless fighting and bring our troops home.Â*Â*George W. Bu$h is not a great president.Â*Â*He is a lier and very incompetent.Â*Â*He has done more to harm the standing of America in the world than can yet be emmagined.Â*Â*He has done more to set the country back than can be told.Â*Â*There is only one thing I can think of that he has done well.Â*Â*He has overseen the greatest transferr of wealth from the common people to the very very few who are already very very rich.


It was senseless to go into Afghanistan?Â*Â*What wealth was transferred by the way, be specific?

Elrathin
12-09-2006, 07:42 PM
What wealth was transferred by the way, be specific?


Tax cuts, and a growing economy for the rich. One of the things that is being mentioned all over is the fact the middle class is disappearing. That is not the sign of a good economy no matter how many times you flash numbers and say it is doing well for a small percentage of people in the U.S.

And Disenfranchised, I don't think you are going to find many people in the U.S. that were against the Afghanistan war. There were harboring Osama who was part of 9/11 and actually commited a terrible terrorist attack on the U.S. unlike Iraq.

BoogyMan
12-09-2006, 08:09 PM
What wealth was transferred by the way, be specific?


Tax cuts, and a growing economy for the rich.Â*Â*One of the things that is being mentioned all over is the fact the middle class is disappearing.Â*Â*That is not the sign of a good economy no matter how many times you flash numbers and say it is doing well for a small percentage of people in the U.S.

And Disenfranchised, I don't think you are going to find many people in the U.S. that were against the Afghanistan war.Â*Â*There were harboring Osama who was part of 9/11 and actually commited a terrible terrorist attack on the U.S. unlike Iraq.


Elrathin, Disenfranchised stated the following:

He has overseen the greatest transferr of wealth from the common people to the very very few who are already very very rich.

Now, considering that outlandish commentary, answer the question I asked.

Buck Laser
12-09-2006, 08:10 PM
Democrats are Anti-Bush.


Well...er, YES. Is anything else new? CWN's sock puppet has a keen grasp of the obvious!

Nitrus
12-09-2006, 08:20 PM
Bush made a LOT of money from 9/11 which led to him making a LOT MORE money from Iraq. (Im talking about his personal wealth, not the country's).

So how, exactly, do the democrats create war?

Im ever so tempted so merge ALL of your thread LGB, they are ALL about the same thing, your Anti-Democratic views, on anything and everything Democratic.

BoogyMan
12-09-2006, 08:26 PM
Bush made a LOT of money from 9/11 which led to him making a LOT MORE money from Iraq. (Im talking about his personal wealth, not the country's).

So how, exactly, do the democrats create war?

Im ever so tempted so merge ALL of your thread LGB, they are ALL about the same thing, your Anti-Democratic views, on anything and everything Democratic.


Lets have some links for these comments Nitrus, proof man, post your proof.

Nitrus
12-09-2006, 08:37 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11

^Explains that a lot of companies made a lot of money from 9/11 and Iraq, Bush family members and himself were partners and stockholders, hence them making money.^

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0522-07.htm

^furtherly explains how money was made from 9/11^

You should also watch this, which has a little insight into it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change

I have no "proof" that money was made from Iraq, but since 9/11 was the main fuel for the war on terror, which incorporated Iraq, I guessed that it would have.

I am not presenting all of this as actual proven fact, but a collection of eye-opening evidence that you may believe or not.

BoogyMan
12-09-2006, 08:43 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11

^Explains that a lot of companies made a lot of money from 9/11 and Iraq, Bush family members and himself were partners and stockholders, hence them making money.^

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0522-07.htm

^furtherly explains how money was made from 9/11^

You should also watch this, which has a little insight into it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change

I have no "proof" that money was made from Iraq, but since 9/11 was the main fuel for the war on terror, which incorporated Iraq, I guessed that it would have.

I am not presenting all of this as actual proven fact, but a collection of eye-opening evidence that you may believe or not.


Nitrus, I truly appreciate your style of debate.

I would like to see something from a less one-sided site than commondreams.org, but appreciate you actually answering a request for links.

Got anything from a major news outlet?

Nitrus
12-09-2006, 08:49 PM
Thats all the decent evidence I can/will provide, believe what you will, I have made my bed.

Disenfranchised
12-10-2006, 02:49 AM
First off, Lovely, this kind of commentary certainly doesn't bring about honest debate. It fosters little more than name calling.

Now, on to the commentary by Disenfranchised.

[quote=Disenfranchised]
Lovely, it wasn't the Democrats that took America to war in Afghanistan or Iraq. It was the Neo-con Republicans. It was George H. W. Bush who took us to war with Iraq the first time. And it is the Democrats who are working the hardest to stop the senseless fighting and bring our troops home. George W. Bu$h is not a great president. He is a lier and very incompetent. He has done more to harm the standing of America in the world than can yet be emmagined. He has done more to set the country back than can be told. There is only one thing I can think of that he has done well. He has overseen the greatest transferr of wealth from the common people to the very very few who are already very very rich.




It was senseless to go into Afghanistan? What wealth was transferred by the way, be specific?


No it wasn't senseless to go into Afghanistan. But it was Republicans who took us in, as I answered Lovely



Tax cuts, and a growing economy for the rich. One of the things that is being mentioned all over is the fact the middle class is disappearing. That is not the sign of a good economy no matter how many times you flash numbers and say it is doing well for a small percentage of people in the U.S.


Elrathin said it about as I would have.


And Disenfranchised, I don't think you are going to find many people in the U.S. that were against the Afghanistan war. There were harboring Osama who was part of 9/11 and actually commited a terrible terrorist attack on the U.S. unlike Iraq.


You assume form my post that I am opposed to the war in Afghanistan. I am not. I was, and still am, all for going after El Queda and the Taliban, and anyone else who gives El Queda aid and comfort. I think we should go into Pakistan after him if he is there, with or without their permission. The Taliban did, and it was right to go in after him.

The senseless war is the side trip Bu$h took us on into Iraq. It is from there that our troops should be withdrawn.

wonder cow
12-10-2006, 05:33 AM
CWN's sock puppet has a keen grasp of the obvious!

I think this is a real possibility. I wonder if Labrocca would be up to comparing some IP addresses.

Drocket
12-10-2006, 06:52 AM
I was, and still am, all for going after El Queda

Would that be Bin Laden's Mexican operations? :P

BoogyMan
12-10-2006, 12:56 PM
Disenfranchised, your comment stated there was a redistribution of wealth from the common man into the hands of the rich. What was taken from the common man and given to the rich?

You have never answered this question.

Disenfranchised
12-10-2006, 05:36 PM
Disenfranchised, your comment stated there was a redistribution of wealth from the common man into the hands of the rich. What was taken from the common man and given to the rich?

You have never answered this question.


Just for instance, the billions of dollars given to the oil industry through tax breaks and no telling how much to Haliburton in over charges. Also, the Medicare Drug thing gave the drug companies untold amounts through higher prices that are paid by the taxpayers. The law prohibits Medicare from even negotiating for lower prices. Want more?

BoogyMan
12-10-2006, 05:40 PM
CWN's sock puppet has a keen grasp of the obvious!

I think this is a real possibility. I wonder if Labrocca would be up to comparing some IP addresses.


The IP addresses are different and from different countries.

lovely_girl_brunette
12-11-2006, 02:33 AM
Disenfranchised is obviously neededÂ*Â*understanding in Terrorist 9-11 attack.Democrats losers are not trying hard to stop the war against terrorists.Bill Clinton is a dumbcrats who started the war against Osama Bin Gay when he attempted to kill him, but chicken out thenÂ*Â*bomb a pharmacy warehouse,instead in Khartoum.Pakistan recently fired a nuclear missiles that time so Bill Clinton aborted the plan targetting Osama.Osama retaliated sending 19 Muslims martyrs by planes (9-11 attack) to bring islam holy war in New York.The Greatest President of All time PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH a newly elected (1st term) in Oval office got caugth surprised as he got nothing to do about the attack.Now it seems so many anti Bush making all this lies that it's all Pres GWB fault, not dumbcrats.
.LOVE ME OR HATE ME....IM PRO BUSH.....LONG LIVE PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH!!!!

BoogyMan
12-11-2006, 02:34 AM
Disenfranchised, your comment stated there was a redistribution of wealth from the common man into the hands of the rich.Â*Â*What was taken from the common man and given to the rich?

You have never answered this question.


Just for instance, the billions of dollars given to the oil industry through tax breaks and no telling how much to Haliburton in over charges.Â*Â*Also, the Medicare Drug thing gave the drug companies untold amounts through higher prices that are paid by the taxpayers.Â*Â*The law prohibits Medicare from even negotiating for lower prices.Â*Â*Want more?


I will grant you the medicare objection as I was not comfortable with it either, but tax breaks for industry is not taking anything from the common man, it is merely allowing industry to keep more of its own money.

Disenfranchised
12-11-2006, 03:15 AM
Disenfranchised, your comment stated there was a redistribution of wealth from the common man into the hands of the rich. What was taken from the common man and given to the rich?

You have never answered this question.


Just for instance, the billions of dollars given to the oil industry through tax breaks and no telling how much to Haliburton in over charges. Also, the Medicare Drug thing gave the drug companies untold amounts through higher prices that are paid by the taxpayers. The law prohibits Medicare from even negotiating for lower prices. Want more?


I will grant you the medicare objection as I was not comfortable with it either, but tax breaks for industry is not taking anything from the common man, it is merely allowing industry to keep more of its own money.


Not when it is a special break that others don't get, letting them pay a smaller portion of their income in taxes. If someone's profit is to be taxed at a lower rate than another's without lowering prices it is taking from the consumers. I wasn't talking about industry across the board. Just a chosen few major players.

I wasn't talking

BoogyMan
12-11-2006, 03:29 AM
When you get into lowering prices discussions that is a whole different kettle of fish. I cannot support any kind of price fixing scheme.

firefox
12-11-2006, 06:31 AM
Hey guys check out this tactic:

1. Start a war, 'welfare' program, or other destructive failed initiative.
2. Wait for the next guy, hopefully of the other party, to take the hit for you after taking office.
3. Get back into office after the public has had enough, and you get to do more of the same but without the blame!

How many times do you think this happens? Sometimes? Always? Never?