Chimpy Loses Out To Wimpy

[ECW]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Only one in four Americans believe President Bush is a better president than his father, George H. W. Bush, a new CNN poll has found.

Six in 10 said the elder Bush, who served one term from 1989-1993, did a better job in office, according to a poll conducted by Opinion Research Corporation. Twelve percent said both were equally good or bad, and 2 percent offered no opinion.

The poll also found that 59 percent disapprove of President Bush's handling of his job; 38 percent approve of it. (Read the complete poll results -- PDF)

The poll's release comes two weeks after President Bush and the GOP lost control of both houses in the midterm elections. In addition, two men associated with the elder Bush -- Robert Gates and James Baker -- have emerged with new roles.

The current president has tapped Gates, who served as CIA director under George H. W. Bush, to replace Donald Rumsfeld as secretary of defense. Gates is also a member of the Iraq Study Group, which Baker -- a longtime Bush family confidante -- is leading to recommend changes in the U.S. strategy there.

The poll, which interviewed 1,025 adult Americans by telephone from Friday through Sunday, also found that most Americans expressed more confidence in congressional Democrats than in President Bush in handling the nation's major issues. (See the results)

More than a majority of the people polled said congressional Democrats were better able than Bush to handle the situation in Iraq, foreign affairs and also taxes, the economy, and the federal deficit -- three signature GOP issues.

Sixty-one percent said Democrats were better able than Bush to handle the deficit -- the same vote of confidence Democrats received on traditional Democratic issues, such as Social Security and health care.

On Iraq, 53 percent of those polled said they were more confident in Democrats than in Bush; 38 percent felt Bush had a better grasp. An even larger margin -- 57 percent -- expressed confidence in Democrats' ability to handle the economy; 36 percent had more confidence in Bush.

Bush and the Democrats are virtually tied on the issue of terrorism, however.

Chimpy-Wimpy Link (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/21/bush.poll/index.html)

If we are comparing the lesser of two incompetents, then Wimpy gets the nod from me. Chimpy is a much more destructive influence than the old man was.

*sigh* Those were the days...

[Labrocca]

More polls don't mean a thing. The Bush presidency doesn't ride on his current administration...it rides on the war on terror which won't be judged for years to come. Most presidents get judged on the current economy...and if people did that Bush would have a huge approval rating. The left has done a great job of painting Bush as incompetent. Even you ECW...you just call him chimpy. As if saying it over and over again somehow makes him a chimp. Interesting when a person decides to use personal attacks instead of debating issues.

The topic is about his approval rating and no matter how many disapprove..he is President for the next couple years. Why should there even be polls for this?

[underdawg]

I seem to remember that Clinton was judged the same way before he left office by the republicans.

I also remember that Bush used to use talking points all the time. Say the same thing over and over again and people tend to believe it is true. They used to say,"If you are not with us, you are against us." He seemed to do a good job of dividing the country getting people to think that if you disagreed with him, that you were aiding the terrorists. I think that comparing Bush to a chimp is minor in comparison to what he has done by saying that those who disagree with him are on the side of the terrorists.

I still don't know if I want to see him impeached, but to do nothing would imply that what he did was okay. I do think investigations should be done to find out what if any crimes were committed.

[lily]

Labrocca

More polls don't mean a thing.

If there ever was a poll that said he was doing a great job, I can imagine you'd say different. Polls may not mean a thing, but the fact is that his numbers have been consistantly in the crapper longer than any other president.

The left has done a great job of painting Bush as incompetent.

Oh he does a fine job all by himself........don't give us all the credit.Â*

The topic is about his approval rating and no matter how many disapprove..he is President for the next couple years.Â*Â*Why should there even be polls for this?

Because opinions matter?

[Oops_pow_suprise]

Opinions matter, but generally opinions are created to quickly. Get sufficient facts before speaking. When it comes down to fact, there will never be a totally perfect president, at least in this century. Bush has done his share good and bad. But remember get evidence before making hastey decisions... "Load Brain before shooting mouth."

[lily]

Which facts were wrong, Oops?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. Polls, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
2. Polls are a liberal thing, to subvert a Country.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

1. Polls, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
2. Polls are a liberal thing, to subvert a Country.


If they are a liberal thing, why were you quoting them before the election saying that liberals were gonna lose because of what the polls were saying?

It's funny to watch people slip into hypocrisy and this is just too easy Chess. You're not even a challenge anymore to prove it.

[ECW]

More polls don't mean a thing.Â*Â*The Bush presidency doesn't ride on his current administration...it rides on the war on terror which won't be judged for years to come.Â*Â*Most presidents get judged on the current economy...and if people did that Bush would have a huge approval rating.Â*Â*

Well, polls may not mean a thing but they are a great way to read the sense of a nation. Chimpy is finally being judged on his inept handling of the War In Iraq. He has endangered the security of this nation for decades to come and could cause us to be hurt time and again in the War on Terror. None of the 9/11 Commission recommendations have been followed and we are at more of a risk to get hit from terrorists because of it. We got hit once on his watch because he was asleep at the switch. We're living on borrowed time.

As for the economy, creating less than a million jobs total over the last six years isn't going to win you any prizes no matter which way you cut it. He lost 3 million jobs in the first three years of his rule and created four million in the last three. Clinton did 22 million in his eight years. The rich people have made out like bandits with Chimpy's Tax Giveaway but the rest of the country is struggling more than ever to keep their heads above water. The Dow is less than a thousand points better than where Clinton left it and you are crowing that this economy is "booming"? Please.

The left has done a great job of painting Bush as incompetent.Â*Â*Even you ECW...you just call him chimpy.Â*Â*As if saying it over and over again somehow makes him a chimp.Â*Â*Interesting when a person decides to use personal attacks instead of debating issues.Â*Â*

Your president painted himself into Incompetence Corner all by himself. His rubber stamp Congress ruled with an Iron Hand and gave him everything he wanted and you are looking to blame who for this mess? Certainly not the Democrats!

Laying into public figures and insulting them is the name of the game here online. Would you like to review some of the older blogs and forums where the neo-con flamers laid into "Slick Willie" for years on end and then come back and whine to me about your little boy George getting the Chimpy label hung on his sorry ass? What goes around comes around. It's a real bitch when you get a shovel full of the same inconsideration, rudeness, and character bashing that you guys excelled at for the eight years of the Clinton presidency.

I make no apologies for insulting a president who ignored 50% of the people in this country for the last six years and acted as if we did not matter. It galls me even more that a Connecticut born Yankee gets away with pretending like he is a real Texan when he is nothing more than a colossal failure.

And when it comes to debating the issues, I back down from no one and make no apologies for bitchslapping the Chimpster while I am at it.[/quote]

The topic is about his approval rating and no matter how many disapprove..he is President for the next couple years.Â*Â*Why should there even be polls for this?

Sadder words have never been spoken: "...he is President for the next couple years." Why shouldn't there be polls for this?

[ECW]

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates – Former President George H.W. Bush took on Arab critics of his son today during a testy exchange at a leadership conference in the capital of this U.S. ally.

"My son is an honest man," Bush told members of the audience who harshly criticized the current U.S. leader's foreign policy.

The oil-rich Persian Gulf used to be safe territory for former President Bush, who brought Arab leaders together in a coalition that drove Saddam Hussein's troops from Kuwait in 1991. But gratitude for the elder Bush, who served as president from 1989-93, was overshadowed at the conference by hostility toward his son, whose invasion of Iraq and support for Israel are deeply unpopular in the region.

"We do not respect your son. We do not respect what he's doing all over the world," a woman in the audience bluntly told Bush after his speech.

Bush, 82, appeared stunned as others in the audience whooped and whistled in approval.

A college student told Bush his belief that U.S. wars were aimed at opening markets for American companies and said globalization was contrived for America's benefit at the expense of the rest of the world. Bush was having none of it.

"I think that's weird and it's nuts," Bush said. "To suggest that everything we do is because we're hungry for money, I think that's crazy. I think you need to go back to school."

The hostile comments came during a quesion-and-answer session after Bush finished a folksy address on leadership by telling the audience how deeply hurt he feels when his presidential son is criticized.

"This son is not going to back away," Bush said, his voice quivering. "He's not going to change his view because some poll says this or some poll says that, or some heartfelt comments from the lady who feels deeply in her heart about something. You can't be president of the United States and conduct yourself if you're going to cut and run. This is going to work out in Iraq. I understand the anxiety. It's not easy."

Bush also told the audience its derisive hoots were mild compared to the reaction he got in Germany in the 1980s, after persuading the country to deploy U.S. nuclear missiles.



He told the audience — including dozens of women in black robes and head scarves — he was extremely proud of his sons, President George W. Bush and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

He said the happiest day of his life was election day in 1998 when George and Jeb were elected to the governorships of Texas and Florida, but he also described the pain he feels when his sons are attacked.

"I can't begin to tell you the pride I feel in my two sons," Bush said. "When your son's under attack, it hurts. You're determined to be at his side and help him any way you possibly can."

One audience member asked the former president what advice he gives his son on Iraq.

Bush said the presence of reporters in the audience prevented him from revealing his advice. He also declined to comment on his expectations for the findings of the Iraq Study Group, an advisory commission led by Bush family friend and his former Secretary of State James A. Baker III and former Rep. Lee Hamilton. The group is expected to issue its report soon.

"I have strong opinions on a lot of these things. But the reason I can't voice them is, if I did what you ask me to do — tell you what advice I give my son — that would then be flashed all over the world," Bush said.

"If it happened to deviate one iota, one little inch, from what the president's doing or thinks he ought to be doing, it would be terrible. It'd bring great anxiety not only to him but to his supporters," he added.

Bush said he'd spoken with Baker recently — the two are neighbors in Houston — but preferred to reminisce about old times than discuss what America ought to do in Iraq.

"In the early 1960s, Jim Baker and I were the men's doubles champions in tennis in the city of Houston," Bush said with a grin. "If I were to suggest what they ought to do, it just would not be constructive and certainly would not be helpful to the president. It would cause grief to him."

Bush said he was surprised by the audience's criticism of his son.

"He is working hard for peace. It takes a lot of guts to get up and tell a father about his son in those terms when I just told you the thing that matters in my heart is my family," he said. "How come everybody wants to come to the United States if the United States is so bad?"

Poor George 41. He just doesn't get it. It's not the United States that is so bad. It's the guy running it currently that many of us object to. He is as out-of-touch now as he was back in the 90's when he had never seen a grocery scanner. Sad.

Link (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003441595_webelderbush21.html?syndication=rss)

[CheesyMuslim]

1. Polls, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
2. Polls are a liberal thing, to subvert a Country.


If they are a liberal thing, why were you quoting them before the election saying that liberals were gonna lose because of what the polls were saying?Â*Â*

It's funny to watch people slip into hypocrisy and this is just too easy Chess.Â*Â*You're not even a challenge anymore to prove it.



Sorry bout that,

1. But my position on what the polls mean and do has always been consistent, its a Liberal thing, that they use when theirs no new news to use to bash Republicans.
2. They do polls on a constant bases, just to have some ammo ready if its a slow news day.
3. I, The Highly Trained Conservative Republican Political/Biblical Adviser, am not fooled by them.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Elrathin]

1. But my position on what the polls mean and do has always been consistent, its a Liberal thing, that they use when theirs no new news to use to bash Republicans.
2. They do polls on a constant bases, just to have some ammo ready if its a slow news day.

Then you yourself used them. So I guess that makes you a liberal. HAHAHA


3. I, The Highly Trained Conservative Republican Political/Biblical Adviser, am not fooled by them.


Obviously you were FOOLED cause you used them and said the dems would lose and they didn't HAHAHA

[lily]

Poor George 41. He just doesn't get it. It's not the United States that is so bad. It's the guy running it currently that many of us object to. He is as out-of-touch now as he was back in the 90's when he had never seen a grocery scanner. Sad.

Link (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003441595_webelderbush21.html?syndication=rss)


I have to agree, it's sad when your father again has to go and clean up your reputation. It's sadder still where ever Bush 43 goes huge protest happen. I remember when we were the country everyone admired and trusted.

But to defend Bush 43.........Dubai was just fine with him, when they wanted our port deals.

[ECW]

I remember when we were the country everyone admired and trusted.


Hoo boy! Now you are really digging into the past. We won't see those days again for a long time... at least two years.

[lily]

ECW.......it's going to take longer than two years to re-build what we used to have.

[ECW]

Yeah, there's a neo-con roadblock in the way.

[lily]

No, I don't think there's a roadblock in the way. I think the damage is so big, that it's going to take more than 2 years and a change of administration to get back what we've lost in this past 6 years.