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Arab Students International Observatory for Victims of Occupation and Blockade started a campaign against the Zionist Occupation in Palestine and its war crimes and crimes against humanity in both Palestine & Lebanon. You are kindly requested to pass this through to fellow comrades and students for signature in order to pass them through with a formal application to the United Nations demanding the exile of so called Israel from the UN community. it can be signed online on this link: http://www.petitiononline.com/ASO001/petition.html
To: The High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949
We, the undersigned, call upon the High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention to fulfill
Their legal obligations to ensure respect for the Convention by the Israeli authorities in the occupied Palestine particularly in Gaza Strip. We call upon you to use all lawful means to
End the Occupation so called Israel's use of collective punishments such as mass murder of civilians, house demolitions, mass arrests, prolonged, curfews, deportations, land confiscation, roadblocks and checkpoints, and the Annexation Wall ;against the Palestinian civilians.
Such penalties pay no regard to individual responsibility, and are inflicted solely on the basis of national and ethnic identity.
Collective punishments are a violation of international humanitarian law, including Article 50 of the Hague Regulations annexed to the Fourth Hague Convention of 1907, and Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) notes that the legal prohibition on collective punishments does not allow for penalizing an entire population on the basis of "passive responsibility." Although Israel is a High Contracting Party to the Convention, it does not accept the de jure application thereof to the West Bank and Gaza Strip. However, the Arab Students Observatory for Victims of Occupation & Blockade -ASO- and the international community have consistently affirmed its applicability to these areas. As such, Israel has an obligation under international law to cease all such punishments which undermine the quality of life of the Palestinians and violate their fundamental rights and freedoms.
Moreover, in light of Israel's continued illegal use of such penalties, other High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention are obliged under Article 1 to "respect and ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances." We urge you to give meaning to your obligation by engaging the Israeli Government for its breaches of the Convention, and directly intervening in order to deter such crimes so that the necessary protections for the Palestinians are provided to them. Ensuring the rights of Palestinians as Protected Persons under the Convention is not merely the legal obligation of the Israeli authorities, but of the international community as a whole.
We demand the exile of Israel from the United Nations and demand International court marshal for Israel in regards of War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity in Palestine & Lebanon.
Thank you for your support
Regional Coordinator
Arab Students Observatory for Victims of Occupation & Blockade
General Union of Arab Students
National Union of Jordanian Students
Youth of Jordanian Workers Communist Party
Recognizing Israel's right to exist would solve most of your problems but, then, that's too easy of a solution. You can stuff your petition.
NortheastCynic
11-14-2006, 03:44 PM
I'd like to echo ECDub's sentiments.
-NC
Elrathin
11-14-2006, 05:56 PM
I look at Isreal's occupation as wrong, but at the same time, it is something that cannot be reversed.
Kinda like how we took the land from the Indians here in the U.S. Was it wrong that we did it? Yes. Can we reverse it? No.
There comes a time when reality and reason has to come into play and that is Isreal is not going to leave. Do I think they should leave? Yes, I do, but it is an unreasonable request given the time that we live in now.
The only solution that is reasonable IMO is for Israel to recognize Palestine and Palestine to recognize Isreal and work to clear out differences. That is the only solution that will work.
Both sides have their faults and both are to blame IMO.
BoogyMan
11-14-2006, 06:06 PM
Recognizing Israel's right to exist would solve most of your problems but, then, that's too easy of a solution. You can stuff your petition.
ECW, I might have said it differently, but your sentiment is right on target!
Israel is far from perfect but the option that Arabs give to them (being driven into the sea or death) leaves them little choice but to kick ass and not bother taking names. You had the chance to settle this whole damn thing at the Oslo accords but you got greedy and the Israelis turned you down. Now you are living with the consequences. Suicide bombings got a wall built. Kidnapping soldiers got armed intrusions into Gaza. Everything that has happened to you has been a result of some adverse action you have taken against the Israelis. When will you wake up to the fact that in order to live in peace, you have to quit poking other people in the eye?
Recognizing Israel's right to exist would solve most of your problems but, then, that's too easy of a solution. You can stuff your petition.
ECW, I might have said it differently, but your sentiment is right on target!
Thank you, sir.
Thank you all for replying, regardless how much do I agree or not
Recognizing the so called Israels right to existance is a thing, and killing children on daily bases just for hate and just for being Palestinians is another.
Now let's take a look at the facts, and I will not speak in a personal point of view, but lets talk statistics and facts then Human Rights:
1- since year 2000, 824 Palestinian children were killed on the hands of Zionist forces. In the past three months 56 Palestinian children from the Gaza Strip have died as a result of Israeli military actions
2- 430 Palestinian children are currently in detention
We are not talking about occupation, house demoltions, farms destruction. We have not yet spoke about steeling the land (which is still by the way a continuos act)
If you want more details, statistics, facts and case studies; please visit: If Americans Knew website URL www.ifamericansknew.comÂ*Â*& Defence Children - Palestine branch: http://www.dci-pal.org/english/doclist.cfm?categoryid=23
Now let's get back to the main subject here: the petition and why is it launched now!
Since July 2006 and the Zionist violence is extending way beyond Human mind, children ARE being killed on daily bases, just yesterday 2 children were killed in Bait Lahia by the Israeli melitary forces. On 8th Nov. 2006 a massacre was committed by these forces so 25 children were killed in one week in Gaza. Take a look at this act here: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-genocide-palestinian-gaza-november122006.htm
Now, you can accept Israels right for existance as much as you want, BUT NO ONE in the whole world accepts killing children during there sleep the way those Zionists do.
This petition and campaign against Israel is to ask the United Nations to punish the so called Israel on its crimes against HUMANITY and War Crimes by taking it out of the Human Community represntatives in the UN.
please take a look at the report of ASO published in Aug. 2006 here: http://arabstudents.jeeran.com/reporteng.html
Then my brother we shall speak :)
Can we also condemn the Palestinians for the dozens of suicide bombers that killed innocent Israelis? Can we condemn the Palestinians for the terrorist acts launched upon Israeli civilians and children? Can we condemn the Palestinians for all of the unprovoked rocket attacks on Israel? Where is YOUR accountability? Let's condemn both of you for horrible, terrorist acts because both of you are guilty.
Then, when you have decided to recognize Israel's right to exist we shall have something to speak about. This whole question revolves around that one central issue. Egypt did and they have been at peace for more than 25 years. Jordan also doesn't push the issue and they are also at peace. What the hell is your problem? Aren't you tired of getting your asses kicked everytime you turn around?
I must add there is no excuse for killing children and there is no excuse for terrorist actions. Stop the killing. Recognize Israel. You will be surprised how much nicer peace is than war. Hamas is the roadblock to this recognition. Peace will not come until recognition comes. The ball is in your court.
Dear Sir,
The Palestinians are defending their right of life, exestance, land and cultural heritage. I would ask you what you would do if you see someone killing your child and destroying your ladn and crops infront of your eyes???
Now, let's talk about facts again since 2000 up to Sept. 2006:
Children Killed: Israelies 122, Palestinians 836
Civilians Killed: 761 Isralelies,Â*Â*while palestinians at least 4300
Targeted People Killed in Assassinations: Israelies 1,Â*Â*Palestinians 248
Bystanders killed in the course of an Assassination: 0 Israelies,Â*Â*Palestinians 198
Now you tell me by numbers who is the creminal.
You really astonish us Americans, 10 Billion $ go Annualy from your tax money for Israel and you stell support the terrorists.
I must add there is no excuse for killing children and there is no excuse for terrorist actions. Stop the killing. Recognize Israel. You will be surprised how much nicer peace is than war. Hamas is the roadblock to this recognition. Peace will not come until recognition comes. The ball is in your court.
Actualy, the Palestinians tried the Peace with Israel, while Israel wants only the peace of the DEAD. The block against peace is the non stop killing of innocent civilians including children and women.
Did you take a look at the links I sent my previous posts? Please do, it is very important that every one tries to see the reality behind what Zionist controlled media allow you to see.
EXACTLY my point. You are getting your asses kicked by the Israelis. Recognize them and this will stop because they want to be left in peace as much as you do. Your hatred has blinded you to that simple fact.
They will be happy to ignore you if you want nothing to do with them. Your rich Arab brothers can prop up your economy instead of the Israelis doing it for you and you can go your separate ways but you cannot do that until you recognize their right to exist on the land they already own. They keep taking your land because you are still at war with them. War spoils are a real bitch and real hard to get back once the war is over. Ask Germany about the land that is now in Poland. Ask the American Indians about the land that they no longer own. Ask the Japanese about the islands the Russians still own from WW2. Ask the Argentinians about the Falkland Islands.
The first step to peace is recognition. Without it, more children will die and the hatred will grow. Frankly there is not a lot of sympathy for your cause because it is pretty clear that you do not want the Jews as neighbors. Driving them into the sea is not an option because you have tried and failed numerous times. Only with recognition will come peace.
Unless, of course, you do not want peace and just want to keep on killing people until there are no more people left.
I did look at your links. My heart is sad for every dead child but I blame you for not making the ONE concession that could have prevented their deaths: recognition. You keep focusing on their reactions to your acts instead of admitting that it your refusal to recognize their country as legitimate that is the block to peace.
Americans cannot let your desire for constant war deter our support for Israel. They are no angels but you hold the key to peace but refuse to use it.
GAZA - The ruling Islamic militant group Hamas said on Tuesday a planned Palestinian unity government would not recognize Israel or accept a two-state solution to the Middle East conflict.
The stance could undercut Palestinian efforts to ease an eight-month-old Western economic boycott by forming a unity cabinet more acceptable to Israel and its closest ally, the United States.
The United States and its partners in the Quartet of Middle East mediators imposed the boycott to pressure Hamas, which took control of the Authority in March, to recognize Israel’s right to exist, renounce violence and accept existing peace deals.
link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15710924)
There is your problem in a nutshell.
See, you know nothing about the facts
Palestinians are not rich sons of bitches, actualy, the rich sons of bitches from the Arabs are good allies of Israel. Now, may be the Palestians are fighting the Zionist terrorists with bair hands, and it is for sure that they do enjoy the killings. But, the real thing is that in each and every culture, and way deep down to the ancient history of wars and occupations on earth; each occupation comes to an end.
If you Americans are dum enough and stupid enough to give out your money for mass killers and theives of land and souls. I doubt that your children would be.
What is important now for each and every humen being in the world is to say what's right and wrong. It is our responsibility to act.
Now the International Security Council did file a Conviction to ISrael for crimes against humanity committed by Israel, your stupid government used the Vito to stop as usual.
We would understand the politics and how governments act, but you people should open your eyes to the reality of the non human acts of the Zionist Occupation.
It is even effecting you as Americans, use that money for homless people whom lost their homes in Saint CAtrena, use it for the poor. don't just give it to mass murderers and say we should recognize Israel. It is more than enough for Israel that you people see the blood and ask for recognition of the killers.
The Blood of each Palestinian Child is on YOUR HANDS if you don't act to stop it.
I personaly do not like Hamas and against the religious governments. But believe it or not the NUTSHELL is your narrow mind that does not recognize the BLOOD and the MURDER
Believe me. I see the carnage and wish it would stop but the refusal of Hamas (who is the authority for Palestine right now) to recognize Israel perpetuates a state of war between Israel and Palestine. You send rockets. You send bombers. They send tanks. They send troops. The killing never stops because IT IS WAR.
Peace only will come from Palestine sitting down and saying enough is enough. Until you do, the bodies of Palestinian children will litter the streets of Gaza and the tears of the people will flow. Only when you love your children more than you hate the Israelis will you get any peace. Hamas refuses to do so. Count on the Israelis to keep doing what they are doing until you wise up. My narrow mind sees the death every day and sees that no one on your side is talking peace with Israel.
It is not the Americans who are acting stupid in this matter, my friend.
Tha stupidity my friend in to insest on the wrong while we do see what's right and wrong.
What Zionism has started in Palestine should not complete, all of this cause will proove in the pages of the up comming history that any occupation is doomed with an end.
whatever the Israelies did or will do the Palestinians will not be vanished.
As long as there is one human voice calling for FREEDOM.. Freedom it shall be.
NortheastCynic
11-15-2006, 12:03 PM
Just my 2 cents but...Not condemning Palestinian attoricities and then calling a respectable debater who simply doesn't agree with you stupid or ignorant of facts is not the way to gain support.
I'm with ECW, Israelis are wrong to kill Palestininan civilians, Palestinians are wrong to kill Israeli civilians. If we can't agree on that then there's no point in going any further with the discussion.
-NC
The point you are missing is if the Palestine Authority recognized Israel and then treated them the way the Egyptians did (make peace) you would not be suffering an occupation, your children would not be killed and you would have a foundation from which to build your society. You do not have this because of the ideology that insists that the Jews do not have a right to a homeland.
How well do you think they would fare in a land where they are hated to the core? This is what they went thru in Germany under Hitler and you see the outcome there. The Jews are in Israel to stay. Accept it and have peace or do what you are doing now and keep banging your heads against the wall until you are a bloodied mess. But don't come complaining that you are dying everyday until you are willing to take the steps to peace that would end your dying. You are putting the cart in front of the horse and that doesn't work, no matter how many times you try it.
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