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lily
11-12-2006, 05:08 PM
Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/11/AR2006111100918.html?referrer=email)

Democrats Find Lessons In GOP Reign
New Majority Is Mindful Of Rivals' Mistakes, Successes

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 12, 2006; Page A01

Democrats preparing to take control of Congress for the first time in over a
decade are looking to the Republican takeover in 1995 as an object lesson of
what to emulate and what to avoid. They hope to match the legislative energy
of the Newt Gingrich era while avoiding at all costs the partisan pitfalls
that eventually soured voters on the GOP.

The majority party that takes control of the House and Senate in January
will look significantly different from the party that was swept from power
in the 1994 elections. The old-guard liberals and staunch union supporters
in control then are giving way to a new generation of moderates with more
temperate legislative ambitions.



Democrats last week picked up six seats in the Senate and at least 28 seats
in the House en route to victory. Eleven of those House districts were
solidly Republican in the 2004 presidential election, while new Democratic
senators from Montana, Missouri, Virginia and Ohio will have to be mindful
of their traditionally Republican constituents.

Led by a feisty Nevada senator and the first woman in history to claim the
House speaker's post, the long-banished Democrats hope to prove their bona
fides as lawmakers and challenge a president from the other party to accept
their agenda, a game plan taken straight from the Gingrich era's "Contract
With America." They also intend to challenge President Bush to change course
in Iraq and consider their demands for a timetable for withdrawing U.S.
troops.

But Democrats say they will avoid the overreaching, arrogance and rancorous
partisanship that left them virtually powerless on Capitol Hill and spawned
an era of political corruption and influence-peddling. Democratic leaders
vowed last week to pass major ethics reforms early in the new 110th
Congress, and to offer Republicans seats at the negotiating table and ample
opportunities to amend bills on the floor -- opportunities that were denied
their party.

"What they did was very effective in pulling up all the ladders for any
other party to gain the majority," incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.) said last week of the Gingrich revolutionaries. "They just shut
the doors to debate on the floor, to amendments coming, to even how special
orders [speeches] were conducted. Everything they were effective in using to
gain the majority they shut down."

"We're going to do the opposite," she pledged.

"This country has spoken loudly and clearly," Sen. Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.),
slated to become the new Senate majority leader in January, told a Capitol
Hill rally last week. "There must be a change of direction in Iraq. We have
to have results in doing something to make health care more affordable and
more available. We have to do something to create energy independence."

House Democratic leaders have put forward an ambitious opening salvo for
January, a 100-hour legislative blitz that includes raising the minimum
wage, boosting alternative-energy research and repealing tax breaks for oil
companies. They also want to beef up seaport screening, expand college
tuition assistance, boost stem cell research and allow the federal
government to negotiate lower drug prices under Medicare.

House Democrats also hope to approve rules changes to limit the influence of
lobbyists, offer the minority party more input on legislation, curb
home-state pet projects in spending bills and, possibly, give the District
of Columbia voting rights on the House floor.

But once the 100 hours or so pass, pressure will mount on Democrats to
confront what many liberals see as the misdeeds of Bush and the Republican
Party. The party's base is clamoring for Democrats to repeal tax cuts skewed
to the affluent, to revisit the new law authorizing military tribunals for
terrorism suspects and to investigate the run-up to the Iraq invasion.

To some Democrats, such calls raise memories of the aggressive -- and
ultimately self-destructive -- stance that House Republicans took when they
stormed to power in the 1994 election and later voted to impeach President
Bill Clinton, only to see Clinton acquitted in the Senate.

cs0564
11-12-2006, 06:40 PM
This article actually has some good information in it. I think though the Democrats may find a couple of things very difficult:

1. ...Gingrich era's "Contract With America." - We found in this latest election that Americans voted "AGAINST' President Bush and not "FOR" any Democrat program. Gingrich made it very simple for the American public to see what they were voting "FOR"!

2. "But once the 100 hours or so pass,...." - This is a mighty goal that they have no chance in completing. No congress has ever done this much in a mere 100 hours and this one will be no different. I personally cannot wait until that first 100 hours is over. I would like to see what really got accomplished.

Are we talking 100 straight hours or 12.5 days (each day having 8 hours)? Either way it is monumental!

wonder cow
11-12-2006, 06:56 PM
Now that they have power, the only reason Democrats should “reach across the aisle”, IMO, is to slap the shit out of somebody.

cs0564
11-12-2006, 06:59 PM
Well for the next two years I guess they better try and work with El Presidente! He does have the magic stick and I think he is willing to use it!

wonder cow
11-12-2006, 07:06 PM
He does have the magic stick and I think he is willing to use it!

I think a congressional investigation of his magic stick is in order. And his tie. And the shoe polish he uses. All separate, thorough investigations.

cs0564
11-12-2006, 07:08 PM
Oh you may just get your wish since the Dems are likely to show a little revenge!

They do not get it though as "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

lily
11-13-2006, 12:05 AM
They do not get it though as "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

So is crow.......talk to you in January.

cs0564
11-14-2006, 12:25 AM
They do not get it though as "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

So is crow.......talk to you in January.


I have already eaten my share of crow! My point is that the Dems will blow these next two years on "punishing" Bush and the Republicans. I really hope they do not use this stragey, but I am afraid they will! If they do, I have no doubt that the Republicasn will fair well in 2008.

ECW
11-14-2006, 04:15 PM
Now that they have power, the only reason Democrats should “reach across the aisle”, IMO, is to slap the shit out of somebody.


Now, now, wonder cow. Behave yourself.

ECW
11-14-2006, 04:20 PM
Oh you may just get your wish since the Dems are likely to show a little revenge!

They do not get it though as "Revenge is a dish best served cold".


Democrats are not Klingons. If they were, you would have something to really whine about.

Don't forget:
But Democrats say they will avoid the overreaching, arrogance and rancorous partisanship that left them virtually powerless on Capitol Hill and spawned an era of political corruption and influence-peddling. Democratic leaders
vowed last week to pass major ethics reforms early in the new 110th
Congress, and to offer Republicans seats at the negotiating table and ample
opportunities to amend bills on the floor -- opportunities that were denied
their party.

"What they did was very effective in pulling up all the ladders for any
other party to gain the majority," incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.) said last week of the Gingrich revolutionaries. "They just shut
the doors to debate on the floor, to amendments coming, to even how special
orders [speeches] were conducted. Everything they were effective in using to
gain the majority they shut down."

"We're going to do the opposite," she pledged.

This is how Republicans acted when they ran the place. They were afraid of debate. They were afraid of compromise. They were afraid of hearing the other side. They were afraid of democracy in the people's chambers. No wonder the people kicked their asses out.

wonder cow
11-14-2006, 05:12 PM
Now, now, wonder cow. Behave yourself.

Behaving yourself is very difficult when you're me.

cs0564
11-14-2006, 10:33 PM
This is how Republicans acted when they ran the place. They were afraid of debate. They were afraid of compromise. They were afraid of hearing the other side. They were afraid of democracy in the people's chambers. No wonder the people kicked their asses out.



You know the Democrats ran it for over 40 years prior to the Republicans winning the house. Could the issue have possibly started in the Democrat ran House prior to Republican takeover?

ECW
11-15-2006, 06:01 AM
No, because in the Democratically controlled Congress, the minority always got their time to make their case. They didn't get as much as the majority but they got their time on every bill. They got to offer amendments to bills and their committee conferees were notified of every conference committee. This all went away with the Chimpy White House. Even that fuck Gingrich let Democrats have their say before they were voted down...

No, this bullshit of locking Democrats out is a Frist/Hastert innovation. Democrats are bigger than that and they won't be pulling any small minded anti-democracy tactics as revenge upon the GOP pussies. Having your asses handed to you in November is revenge enough, according to Pelosi and Reid. They are much more magnanimous than I would have been. I would have made you live by your own rules for six months and then made a big to-do about changing them.