* Hamas Is About To Die Off *

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But it has come to my attention that Hamas is about to cave in on it self.
2. Yes its time that that terrorist government died.
3. How in Gawds name could they every gotten elected?
4. Was that election rigged???
5. Hummm,........
6. Could be that the Democratic*s learned something of how to rig an election from Hamas.
7. I hope I am wrong, here, but more than likely I'm right again, as I usually am.
8. Here's the link
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20743572-23109,00.html

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[lily]

Imagine that.......a leader who is willing to step down, because he put his people first.


3. How in Gawds name could they every gotten elected?

Excellent queation! Bush wanted elections in the Middle East and they obliged. Actually the only group they could elect to keep them safe from being the next to be invaded.....odd how voting works, huh?

[CheesyMuslim]

Sorry bout that,

1. But Hamas wants the money, more than the power.
2. We turned off the free money faucet.
3. And they want it back.
4. So they can live the easy life.
5. Eating delicate things while watching tv all day.
6. Its common knowledge.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[cs0564]

Imagine that.......a leader who is willing to step down, because he put his people first.

Last one in our history was a Republican! Imagine that? I wonder if any other US politician would do that nowadays. I think not! Too many PAC's for that to happen.

[Alonzo]

Well, if you're referring to Nixon, he was stepping down due to crimes he committed, and since he was likely to get kicked out anyway.

[Labrocca]

Clinton didn't step down. He should have though.

[cs0564]

Clinton could have done this country a favor and not cost us millions upon millions of dollars to investigate both his presidential crimes and his crimes prior to taking office. Nixon stepped down to avoid all of that.

[Alonzo]

Nixon only resigned since he lost the support of his own party and was facing the threat of being fired. Clinton never faced that threat, and had a much lesser charge.

[cs0564]

RIGHT! The Republican party purged itself of someone who did not stand for the things most conservative Republicans stand for. Can't say I will hold my breath that Democrast would do the same!

[Churchel]

Clinton could have done this country a favor and not cost us millions upon millions of dollars to investigate both his presidential crimes and his crimes prior to taking office.Â*Â*Nixon stepped down to avoid all of that.


Clinton cost us that? Funny I thought that kenneth star was an independant investigator paid for by congress. 65 million dollars for a blowjob.

Nice try at rewriting history again.

[cs0564]

Clinton cost us that? Funny I thought that kenneth star was an independant investigator paid for by congress.Â*Â*65 million dollars for a blowjob.


Oh that was all he did? Golly gee mister who ultimalty paid all htem dollars? The tax payers? Oh shucks! I guess I paid a portion of them then.

How can you answer these?

Clinton made history as the first U.S. president to be disbarred while in office.

The first elected president in U.S. history to be impeached-Dec. 19, 1998.

The first president to found guilty of a crime while still in office. (Leaking the private correspondence of Kathleen Willey in violation of the Privacy Act).

The first U.S. president to be publicly accused of forcible rape-by Juanita Broaddrick. Feb. 24, 1999.

The first U.S. president to approve the sale of sophisticated weapons technology to a hostile power while its emissaries contributed to his campaign.

The first president to be accused by multiple witnesses, including one under oath before a federal grand jury, of using cocaine while he was the chief law enforcement officer of his state.

The first U.S. president to be accused of sexual assault on White House property-by Kathleen Willey, March 15, 1998.

The first U.S. president to order a paramilitary operation where a network television camera crew was punched, kicked, and forced to the ground at gunpoint to prevent them from broadcasting live video coverage. (Elian Gonzalez's abduction-April 22, 2000.

The first sitting president to be the subject of a sexual harassment suit-filed by Paula Jones. May 8, 1994.

The first U.S. president to order an armored assault on a church, resulting in the deaths of 55 members of the congregation along with 25 of their children. (Waco-April 19, 1993)

The first U.S. presidential candidate to accept financial support from a KGB spy. (Aldrich Ames-$7,000, 1991, 92)

The first sitting U.S. president to be named in a federal criminal referral as a possible witness to and beneficiary of fraudulent financial activity. (Whitewater)

The first president to consult with Congress about combat troop deployment while simultaneously receiving oral sex-according to Monica Lewinsky and Rep. Sonny Callahan. (Starr Report-Sept. 1998)

The first U.S. president to have two senior administration officials die violently under mysterious circumstances while they were being pressed for testimony on assorted White House scandals. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown)

The first U.S. president to have a major cooperating federal witness against him die in prison while waiting to give prosecutors the testimony they later admitted would have led to first family indictments. (James McDougal)

Naw Sir he didn't do anything wrong!

[Elrathin]

The first U.S. president to order a paramilitary operation where a network television camera crew was punched, kicked, and forced to the ground at gunpoint to prevent them from broadcasting live video coverage. (Elian Gonzalez's abduction-April 22, 2000.

So Clinton kicked these people to the ground right? Sorry, no this wasn't Clinton's fault on this one.


The first U.S. president to order an armored assault on a church, resulting in the deaths of 55 members of the congregation along with 25 of their children. (Waco-April 19, 1993)

Iraq war, collateral damage of civilians, enough said. You're using a church as an example of Clinton's fault? Gimme a break.


The first sitting U.S. president to be named in a federal criminal referral as a possible witness to and beneficiary of fraudulent financial activity. (Whitewater)

And how did that one go? Sorry, Clinton do anything wrong there.


The first president to consult with Congress about combat troop deployment while simultaneously receiving oral sex-according to Monica Lewinsky and Rep. Sonny Callahan. (Starr Report-Sept. 1998)

So? Was he having the blowjob WHILE consulting? I think not, non-issue.


The first U.S. president to have two senior administration officials die violently under mysterious circumstances while they were being pressed for testimony on assorted White House scandals. (Vince Foster, Ron Brown)

Wait a minute are you actually blaming Clinton for this? Please say you're not, that would DEFINATELY be tinfoil hat material there. :D


The first U.S. president to have a major cooperating federal witness against him die in prison while waiting to give prosecutors the testimony they later admitted would have led to first family indictments. (James McDougal)

Again, are you blaming Clinton for this?


Naw Sir he didn't do anything wrong!


Sure in the hell wasn't everything on your list.

[cs0564]

These are mere "Firsts' for a US President. Ironically you disproved NONE of them! All I heard was "Billy didn't do it"! "He did not", "ut ah". Please enlighten me with facts and proof that he had nothing to do with:

1. Elian Gonzalez's abduction and deportation to Cuba.

2. That he did not order Janet Reno to use military action against US citizens at Waco.

3. Was a witness to and beneficiary of fraudulent financial activity. Commonly called Whitewater.

4. Ordered combat troop deployment while simultaneously receiving oral sex-according to Monica Lewinsky and Rep. Sonny Callahan. I guess Monica is a liar too? She should know since she was there.

5. No other president has had two prominant figures die while they were being pressed for testimony or anything else for that matter.

6. James McDougal did die while in Prison custoday right? Susan McDougal did go to jail and refused to cooperate with any investigations right? Ever wonder why?

You only attacked 6 of the 15 "FIRST'S" Are the others true then?

Oh he did it alright and history will show that! WHY do so many try and always "clean up" after this rascal? Clintonites even feared a Freakin television show:
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/sep/07/full_text_of_letter_from_bill_clinton_lawyer_to_ab c_obtained

[Elrathin]

Ironically you disproved NONE of them! All I heard was "Billy didn't do it"! "He did not", "ut ah". Please enlighten me with facts and proof that he had nothing to do with:

It is not my job to prove a negative (i.e. he didn't do something), it is YOUR job to prove he did. You know this or should at least.

As for your list:

1. Elian Gonzalez's abduction and deportation to Cuba.

That is far different than what you claimed above. You seemed to imply that Clinton ordered them to be rough on the media. That is not proven and you know it.


2. That he did not order Janet Reno to use military action against US citizens at Waco.

Did he actually issue the order, or did he leave it to Reno to make that call? Will be awaiting your proof.


3. Was a witness to and beneficiary of fraudulent financial activity. Commonly called Whitewater.

A witness is different than being charged. MY god you are stretching things.


4. Ordered combat troop deployment while simultaneously receiving oral sex-according to Monica Lewinsky and Rep. Sonny Callahan. I guess Monica is a liar too? She should know since she was there.

Yeah and monica would have no reason to lie right? She told the truth the entire time right? Her word against his on that one sorry. They are both liars, that still isn't proof that is a he said she said type thing.


5. No other president has had two prominant figures die while they were being pressed for testimony or anything else for that matter.

Again, proof? Was Clinton convicted of this, was there any proof to warrant an indictment. You are trying to corrolate something that doesn't connect. When you want to provide proof and not accusations come back with some.


6. James McDougal did die while in Prison custoday right? Susan McDougal did go to jail and refused to cooperate with any investigations right? Ever wonder why?

I wonder why anyone dies, however, there was a crack addict down the street that was killed two years ago and there wasn't an investigation launched that involved the CIA either. Should it have been? Again, when you provide proof and not tinfoil hat accusations, I'll listed to these.


You only attacked 6 of the 15 "FIRST'S" Are the others true then?

Yes, because I didn't sepcifically answer every one of the ridiculous accusations they must be true. :rolleyes: Hey whatever you want to think, I picked out the more ridiculous ones to comment on.

It's funny though you will believe that Clinton somehow is behind murders, but don't believe Bush could have lied to get us in Iraq. Un fucking believable. That is called partisan.


Oh he did it alright and history will show that! WHY do so many try and always "clean up" after this rascal? Clintonites even feared a Freakin television show:
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/sep/07/full_text_of_letter_from_bill_clinton_lawyer_to_ab c_obtained


Yeah and Bush has Rove to clean up his messes. What's your point again? Oh yeah, Clinton bad, Bush is great, we got it.:rolleyes:

[cs0564]

It is not my job to prove a negative (i.e. he didn't do something), it is YOUR job to prove he did.Â*Â*You know this or should at least.

Of course you don't have to.Â*Â*That is what makes this the Greatest country on the Earth!Â*Â*Freedom, Liberty, and Justice for all!

The idea that your not able to find proof had nothing to do with your answer above I am sureÂ*Â*:D!

[Elrathin]

The idea that your not able to find proof had nothing to do with your answer above I am sure :D!


Prove Bush isn't a child molester. Your response would be, prove he is.

See my point now? You are asking me to prove Clinton didn't do something, but you haven't provided proof he did.

[cs0564]

You are asking me to prove Clinton didn't do something, but you haven't provided proof he did.


I actually have the proof at the end of each statement. You need to re-read it.

As for the Child Molester thing there has never been an accusation of molestation therefor it would be impossible to prove that he was or was not. There are many instnaces where Clinton was accused and there are many instances of testimony to prove he did something wrong.

Clinton has many "exposed" ghosts in his closet. Most of them from his personal behavior. I really do not see any of those types of issues with Bush, other than the DWI, which was first reported by that nasty conservative Fox News!

[Elrathin]

I actually have the proof at the end of each statement. You need to re-read it.

This right here:

6. James McDougal did die while in Prison custoday right? Susan McDougal did go to jail and refused to cooperate with any investigations right? Ever wonder why?

Is not proof Clinton did something. That is what I'm getting at.

[cs0564]

Isn't it funny that when the Liberals hear someone bashing Clinton they are ALWAYS so up in arms, but they do not mind readily blaming Bush for everything that has been bad in our nation for the past 6 years?

"Honor does not have to be defended". - Robert J. Sawyer (1960 - )

[Elrathin]

Isn't it funny that when the Liberals hear someone bashing Clinton they are ALWAYS so up in arms, but they do not mind readily blaming Bush for everything that has been bad in our nation for the past 6 years?

"Honor does not have to be defended". - Robert J. Sawyer (1960 - )


Did I say Clinton didn't do anything wrong? No I didn't. I said that you didn't provide proof of what you claim he did.

Now, would you please explain how this comment is proof that Clinton did this:

6. James McDougal did die while in Prison custoday right? Susan McDougal did go to jail and refused to cooperate with any investigations right? Ever wonder why?

That is what you gave me as proof that he did this. Now, knowing you and how you debate here with logic normally (That is a compliment) you can do FAR better than republican conspiracist talking points.

I have my list of what I felt Clinton did wrong, but when you start saying that Clinton had these people murdered and then provide conspiracy talking points, yes I don't take those comments seriously.

You want to debate his foreign policy and things he ACTUALLY DID, then fine, but drop the conspiracy crap.