Blacks, Latinos lead crime stats - NYPD

[December]

Blacks, Latinos lead crime stats - NYPD

By Alison Gendar
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, September 18th 2008, 9:51 PM

Black New Yorkers are 13 times more likely to be murdered - or arrested for murder - than whites, an NYPD crime analysis shows.

Blacks and Hispanics dominated tallies of both suspects and victims, according to an NYPD racial breakdown of crimes requested by the Daily News.

The News asked for the stats after civil rights groups slammed the NYPD because 90% of people shot at by cops in 2007 - the last year for which data was available - were black or Hispanic. Police brass said that was because minorities accounted for the majority of crime suspects and victims.

Of the 244 murders between Jan. 1 and June 30 this year, 64.8% of the victims were black, records showed. Hispanics accounted for 23.4% of the victims, whites 7.4% and Asians 4.5%.

Using NYPD stats, the homicide rate per 1 million in population was 81.1 for blacks and 6.3 for whites.

Among murder arrests, blacks accounted for 64.9%, Hispanics 27.2%, whites 7.3% and Asians less than 1%.

In all, 153 New Yorkers were charged with homicide through June 30 - the ethnicity was detailed in 151 of the cases.

The arrest rate for homicide per 1 million population: 50.8 black, 3.8 white.

The statistics did not match crime victims with their tormentors. Anecdotally, police officers said black and Hispanic victims tend to be attacked by black and Hispanic criminals.

The racial tallies bear little resemblance to the ethnic makeup of New York City: 34.8% white, 27.6% Hispanic and 23.7% black, 2006 Census data shows.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/09/18/2008-09-18_blacks_latinos_lead_crime_stats__nypd-2.html

[NortheastCynic]

I'm sorry, what are we to debate here.

-NC

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

And I bet if they showed rich vs. poor, we would see a similar correlation...

AMAZING!

[xLIBREx]

It's purely socioeconomic. Boy, Russia is sure full of racist assholes:

Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2006
Inside Russia's Racism Problem
By YURI ZARAKHOVICH/MOSCOW

The blast that ripped through a small cafe in the Cherkizovo market in eastern Moscow Monday morning killed eight instantly, including two children aged four and five. Two more victims died in a hospital, and the death count may yet grow: eleven of 35 wounded are in extremely grave condition. It was a brutal attack, and many Westerners acquainted with the Chechen rebels' tactics over the years might at first simply conclude it was yet another front in the war on terror — a random act of violence perpetrated by Islamic militants bent on inflicting as much carnage as possible on the West, be it George Bush's U.S. or Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Except that most of those who were killed are Uzbeks, Tajiks, Chinese and Vietnamese — the "blacks" or "churki" (wooden stubs), as Russian Nationalists derogatively call non-white foreigners, and as the increasing number of average Russians casually echo them. On Tuesday, law enforcement officials said they identified the bombers as three young ethnic Russian students of Moscow colleges. The suspects believed, Moscow's Prosecutor Yuri Demin told the press, that "There are too many Asians" here.

As repugnant as that may sound, it is becoming an increasingly popular view in today's Russia. Which is why even if the two suspects arrested are indeed guilty, they might get away with the crime. With 52% Russians supporting the slogan "Russia for Russians," and with many increasingly sympathetic to those who attack immigrants, the courts may well be lenient. "Racist attacks happen with shocking regularity in Russia, and the government is shirking its responsibilities and failing to confront the problem," Amnesty International said in its May 2006 report on hate crime in Russia. According to the Moscow Human Rights Bureau, racists murdered 10 people last year and 18 in the first half of this year, not incluing the ten people killed by the Cherkizovo market bomb.

Last September, a St. Petersburg court heard the case of a neo-Nazi group, known as Shultz88, accused of multiple racial assaults. The leader got six years, while three storm troopers got three years of suspended sentences each. One was let go as underage. And storm trooper Alexei Vostroknutov was let go for the lack of proof.

I met Shultz88's storm troopers in July 2004. One of them introduced himself as Alexei, but would not give his last name because he was facing that same trial. He had spent six months in pre-trial detention, but was set free. Alexei boasted about the number of the "churki" and "yids" he assaulted — "And I don't care how many of them died." There wasn't another Alexei at the Shultz88 trial, so it must be he whom they let off scot-free. He knew he could afford to boast.

A day before that encounter I talked with Yuri Belyayev, leader of the neo-Nazi Freedom Party, based in St Petersburg. As we talked, he leaned over my recorder to make sure his quote would not be missed and said very distinctly: "Let me report: that Syrian who they say died in a Subway accident — it was not an accident at all. My skin-group leader, the nickname of Valtroon, pushed him."

Belyayev also knew he did not risk anything. He supported Putin and believed the President shared some of his goals. "He is for rubbing the churki out, and for a strong Russia, and so are we," Belyayev said. Back in the fall of 1999, in the wake of terrorist apartment bombings in Moscow and other Russian cities, then-Premier Putin pledged "to rub out the terrorists on the john." Neo-Nazis — along with many Russians who would genuinely feel insulted if they were called Nazis — interpreted this statement in the same way Belyayev did — as a virtual license to attack. I heard it from officers who fought in Chechnya often enough.

It is true that on the eve of the G-8 Summit, Putin's government had to show that it had cleaned up St. Petersburg; the police shot dead a 22-year-old skinhead, named as a neo-Nazi leader, charged with a blatant murder of an African student and resisting arrest. But despite that show of force, hate assaults did not cease either in St. Petersburg or elsewhere. A week after the G-8 summit, the jury at the St. Petersburg City Court acquitted four nationalists charged with the deadly assault of an African student. The gallery applauded and shouted "well done" and "thanks" to the jury.

About a week ago, a band of skinheads beat to pulp a Tajik boy in a dacha Moscow village where I live, while another gang badly stabbed two Dagestanis on a suburban train. And many of these cases will never even be registered with the authorities.

What many Russians do not understand is that once they use the hate vocabulary of "churki" and "blacks," they feed the specter of fascism even if they do not fully support it. And yes, this specter is getting out of hand.

Back in July 2004, Alexei of the Shultz88 group told me: "The time of our shahids, and our bombings, has come." He was talking of groups or individuals who would create a Nazi al-Qaeda by linking through the Internet. Two years ago, I thought that the government could still roll all this scum back within a week. Monday's bombing seems to indicate that it might be too late — even if the government actually wanted to.

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1304096,00.html

[apdst]

And I bet if they showed rich vs. poor, we would see a similar correlation

And, of those poor folks, how many are going to be white, black and hispanic?

[NortheastCynic]

What are the implications/intent of that question?

-NC

[micfranklin]

Is this surprising coming from America's largest city?

Now if we did another comparison in say, Los Angeles or Chicago or San Diego we might see a difference.

[LadyLawyer]

Seriously? I doubt you would see a difference. It is unfortunate. If you did research on serial killers (and god knows how many they actually kill before they are caught) you would find that these gruesome killers are almost always white. There just seems to be a problem that we can't seem to fix. Maybe it is poverty. Maybe it is the way we are raised. Maybe it is a two parent home. Who knows? (I doubt it is a legacy of slavery).

[IndieVisible]

Seriously? I doubt you would see a difference. It is unfortunate. If you did research on serial killers (and god knows how many they actually kill before they are caught) you would find that these gruesome killers are almost always white. There just seems to be a problem that we can't seem to fix. Maybe it is poverty. Maybe it is the way we are raised. Maybe it is a two parent home. Who knows? (I doubt it is a legacy of slavery).

How racist to say such a thing. If some one said blacks make up most of the lower end crimes like burglary, mugging, drugs, and looting, we would be accused of racism or sterotyping. Yet if some one says whites do more hideous serial crimes it's ok? HYPOCRISY!

[micfranklin]

Living in poverty most likely.

I mentioned San Diego because it sits on the Mexican borders and there's some really nasty Hispanic gangs out there.

[NortheastCynic]

How racist to say such a thing. If some one said blacks make up most of the lower end crimes like burglary, mugging, drugs, and looting, we would be accused of racism or sterotyping. Yet if some one says whites do more hideous serial crimes it's ok? HYPOCRISY!
Statistics cannot be racist. It is statistically accurate to claim that a serial killer is more likely to be white; similarly, it is statistically accurate to claim that a mugger is more likely to be black.

Again, stats cannot be racist.

-NC

[IndieVisible]

Statistics cannot be racist. It is statistically accurate to claim that a serial killer is more likely to be white; similarly, it is statistically accurate to claim that a mugger is more likely to be black.

Again, stats cannot be racist.

-NC

Stats can be used to support racist ideas and stereo types. Your more likely to run in to a black mugger then a white serial killer lol.

[NortheastCynic]

Correct, due to the fact that, statistically, there are more muggers than there are serial killers.

-NC

[December]

One of two men wanted in brutal Bronx baseball bat beating turns self in

Monday, September 22nd 2008, 1:11 PM

One of two men wanted in the brutal baseball bat beating of a Boston-area radio host in the Bronx turned himself in Monday, accompanied by his mother.
Cops said Gavin Scott, 20, admitted he took part in the attack on Pelagio De La Cruz and gave up the name of the man who wielded the bat.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/09/23/amd_gavinscott.jpg

De La Cruz has not been able to speak since he was beaten and robbed on Davidson Ave. in the early-morning hours of Sept. 14. He is in critical condition at St. Barnabas Hospital.

One mugger took a full swing with the bat and whacked De La Cruz in the head, knocking him to the ground. The mad batter continued to beat the radio jock as he lay defenseless on the street.

Then a second man ran over and the pair rifled through De La Cruz's pockets, taking his wallet, cell phone and a gold chain, police said.
Afterward, they ran back to a car and drove off.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/09/22/2008-09-22_one_of_two_men_wanted_in_brutal_bronx_ba.html

VIDEO -- http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/2008/09/20/2008-09-20_victim_of_bronx_baseball_bat_bashing_slo.html

[Defensor]

Seriously? I doubt you would see a difference. It is unfortunate. If you did research on serial killers (and god knows how many they actually kill before they are caught) you would find that these gruesome killers are almost always white.
If you're talking about movie actors cast as serial killers, maybe.

African Americans and Serial Killing in the Media (http://hsx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/9/4/271)
There were many expressions of shock and surprise voiced in the media in 2002 when the "D.C. Sniper" turned out to be two Black males. Two of the stereotypes surrounding serial killers are that they are almost always White males and that African American males are barely represented in their ranks. In a sample of 413 serial killers operating in the United States from 1945 to mid-2004, it was found that 90 were African American. Relative to the African American proportion of the population across that time period, African Americans were overrepresented in the ranks of serial killers by a factor of about 2. Possible reasons why so few African American serial killers are known to the public are explored.