Electoral College Update

[Stoner]

I'll keep this updated as needed. Here are the current EC tracking from Rasmussen.

Safe GOP - AL, ID, KS, KY, LA, OK, TN, UT, WY

Likely GOP - AK, AR, AZ, GA, IN, MS, ME, NC, SC, SD, TX, WV

Leans GOP - FL, MO, MT, ND, OH

Toss Up - CO, NV, VA

Leans Dem - IA, MI, NH, NM, OR, PA, WI

Likely Dem - CT, DE, ME, MN, NJ, WA

Safe Dem - CA, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NY, RI, VT

The count now is 193 (Dem) to 183 (GOP). The 10 point lead was 210-165. Now that America is seeing what a complete, numbnuts, fucktard, empty suit Hussein Obama is he's falling faster than Michael Moore skydiving.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update

[Stoner]

So as of now it's coming down to Colorado, Virginia and Nevada. This of course is assuming the leaning states down fall to the other side.

[Stoner]

MI and PA are could be huge for us. As of now they're leaning towards the libs but with some luck could be swayed over. Either would lock it up.

[NIOSA]

I'll keep this updated as needed. Here are the current EC tracking from Rasmussen.

Safe GOP - AL, ID, KS, KY, LA, OK, TN, UT, WY

Likely GOP - AK, AR, AZ, GA, IN, MS, ME, NC, SC, SD, TX, WV

Leans GOP - FL, MO, MT, ND, OH

Toss Up - CO, NV, VA

Leans Dem - IA, MI, NH, NM, OR, PA, WI

Likely Dem - CT, DE, ME, MN, NJ, WA

Safe Dem - CA, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NY, RI, VT

The count now is 193 (Dem) to 183 (GOP). The 10 point lead was 210-165. Now that America is seeing what a complete, numbnuts, fucktard, empty suit Hussein Obama is he's falling faster than Michael Moore skydiving.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update

Why don't you tell us what you really think? :lmao:
President John S. Mccain....retired USN, which is another proud title he carries.

[NIOSA]

I say they both go GOP. PA was ridiculed, at least the small towners were. Mi has had a big ol dem scandal over the last few months. So, it's looking good for McCain/Palin

[Stoner]

I say they both go GOP. PA was ridiculed, at least the small towners were. Mi has had a big ol dem scandal over the last few months. So, it's looking good for McCain/Palin

I think it would be shocking if we took both PA and MI. PA maybe, but certainly not both.

I hope you're right, though. Right now it's a 10 EC game.

[PostmodernProphet]

difficult to say how the Kilpatrick situation will effect voting.....black mayor in jail......but I think as many blacks didn't like him as did......he's going to have to be replaced, which might bring out a lot of black voters in Detroit in November.....

[xLIBREx]

difficult to say how the Kilpatrick situation will effect voting.....black mayor in jail......but I think as many blacks didn't like him as did......he's going to have to be replaced, which might bring out a lot of black voters in Detroit in November.....

Marion Berry got caught smoking crack and that didn't stop any black people from voting for him again.

[Stoner]

Marion Berry got caught smoking crack and that didn't stop any black people from voting for him again.

And Nagin is one of the worst mayors as well but he still wins elections.

[william the wierd]

I still think the continuous revision of the EC count and proof of citizenship law states make this election impossible to call. Take the drugs and sex thread about Obama if, as alleged, he left evidence that he took drugs while he was in office that will sink his candidacy, the claim of a junkie that he had sex with the candidate while stoned will be dismissed as probable hallucination. No one cares if a Dem is a pimp or a whore, straight or gay witness Barney Frank. But governing while stoned will bite regardless of party witness the Kennedy clan.

If Obama has to bow out and Hillary is named replacement it will take a while for the McCain team to retool for a new target and no such retooling will be needed by the Dems so this election could turn on a dime. I would avoid premature celebration.

[ECW]

But governing while stoned will bite regardless of party ...

You are preaching to the wrong choir in this thread, man.

[Nathan Brazil]

I still think the continuous revision of the EC count and proof of citizenship law states make this election impossible to call. Take the drugs and sex thread about Obama if, as alleged, he left evidence that he took drugs while he was in office that will sink his candidacy, the claim of a junkie that he had sex with the candidate while stoned will be dismissed as probable hallucination. No one cares if a Dem is a pimp or a whore, straight or gay witness Barney Frank. But governing while stoned will bite regardless of party witness the Kennedy clan.

If Obama has to bow out and Hillary is named replacement it will take a while for the McCain team to retool for a new target and no such retooling will be needed by the Dems so this election could turn on a dime. I would avoid premature celebration.

First off, nothing can happen that will force the DNC to make Obama step down. He could be videotaped spreading anthrax on the New York subway while receiving anal sex from a lipstick wearing pit-bull and the Democrat party leadership will call it a desperate Republican plot.

But...pretending that Obama could be dumped, dem black folk ain't a gwin vote for no white bitch now.

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

Barack Obama 238
183 Solid 55 Leaning

John McCain 174
142 Solid 32 Leaning

Toss Up 126
126 Toss Up

[william the wierd]

Maybe I misremember but when did Wisconsin and PA stop being solid for Obama?

[Invayne]

First off, nothing can happen that will force the DNC to make Obama step down. He could be videotaped spreading anthrax on the New York subway while receiving anal sex from a lipstick wearing pit-bull and the Democrat party leadership will call it a desperate Republican plot.



:madlaugh: Unfortunately, you're right!

[Stoner]

Maybe I misremember but when did Wisconsin and PA stop being solid for Obama?

They're in the "leans to" side for Obama. As to answer your question...when they realized Comrade Obama is full of pig manure.

[Invayne]

They're in the "leans to" side for Obama. As to answer your question...when they realized Comrade Obama is full of pig manure.

HUH???:madlaugh:

[xLIBREx]

They're in the "leans to" side for Obama. As to answer your question...when they realized Comrade Obama is full of pig manure.

Don't forget Dixie Democrats who might claim they are voting Obama when the pollsters call, but once they get in that booth with no one looking over their shoulder they are simply never going to vote for a "black guy." We saw this in the primaries where the polls seemed so optimistic compared to the actual votes.

Tic Toc, 58 days to go.

[conservative]

difficult to say how the Kilpatrick situation will effect voting.....black mayor in jail......but I think as many blacks didn't like him as did......he's going to have to be replaced, which might bring out a lot of black voters in Detroit in November.....

"I want to first acknowledge your great mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick," Obama says.

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20080815&Category=METRO&ArtNo=808150346&Ref=AR&Profile=1409

[conservative]

Don't forget Dixie Democrats who might claim they are voting Obama when the pollsters call, but once they get in that booth with no one looking over their shoulder they are simply never going to vote for a "black guy." We saw this in the primaries where the polls seemed so optimistic compared to the actual votes.

Tic Toc, 58 days to go.

Nailed that....

[Nathan Brazil]

Maybe I misremember but when did Wisconsin and PA stop being solid for Obama?

Maybe they're growing up?

[PostmodernProphet]

Maybe I misremember but when did Wisconsin and PA stop being solid for Obama?
after he got over the bounce from beating Hillary.....

[PostmodernProphet]

interesting....as of Sunday

The latest numbers from the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update)show Obama (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update#) leading in states with 193 Electoral College votes and McCain ahead in states with 183 Electoral College votes. Previously, Obama had enjoyed a 210–165 advantage.

[nateb]

interesting....as of Sunday

The latest numbers from the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update)show Obama (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_electoral_college_update#) leading in states with 193 Electoral College votes and McCain ahead in states with 183 Electoral College votes. Previously, Obama had enjoyed a 210–165 advantage.

That's probably in large to part to Colorado going to toss up and Ohio going to leans McCain.

[william the wierd]

I may have to eat crow. I never thought any Dem could lose to any Rep this cycle much less McCain who is less than exciting as a speech reader. Analysis please?

[Stoner]

I may have to eat crow. I never thought any Dem could lose to any Rep this cycle much less McCain who is less than exciting as a speech reader. Analysis please?

For one, Hussein Obama dropped the ball in his VP selection and McCain nailed it. America is tired of the same ole same ole politician, which is why McCain and Palin are so intriguing. Neither of them are the norm. McCain is the Maverick who is a straight-talker and tells it likes it is. Palin is a fresh-faced pioneer who has a track record of reform and rooting out corruption.

Americans love these values and will vote them into the WH.

Compare that to Obama who is been proven to associate with known terrorists and has Muslim ties as well as shady and corrupted friends.

Biden was a horrible choice because he represents everything that America is trying to steer away from in politics.

It's why Ohio is now shying away from democrats and now leaning towards republicans.

[4Reaganomics]

No man is going overly wild over McCain. What you are seeing is someone who is ultra liberal with non traditional American upbringing fail to connect to voters. Too many people will vote against Obama due to his associations and failure to connect with the heartland. There is a reason why he got walloped by HRC in PA and OH. The same areas with working class men and women, mostly white , that he was trounced in by Hillary are the same areas that will cost the liberals the POTUS

[nateb]

No man is going overly wild over McCain. What you are seeing is someone who is ultra liberal with non traditional American upbringing fail to connect to voters. Too many people will vote against Obama due to his associations and failure to connect with the heartland. There is a reason why he got walloped by HRC in PA and OH. The same areas with working class men and women, mostly white , that he was trounced in by Hillary are the same areas that will cost the liberals the POTUS

What you refer to as a failure to connect will be labeled racism by Obama supporters. Actually, it already has been labeled racism by members of this forum.

[william the wierd]

What you refer to as a failure to connect will be labeled racism by Obama supporters. Actually, it already has been labeled racism by members of this forum.
Actually Obama's support of class based affirmative action (which may have been retracted by now) may cause the civil rights establishment to defect if it looks like he is going to lose. I'm still wondering why that hasn't been debated by the liberals since that claim was made on Bill Moyers about a month ago.

[4Reaganomics]

What you refer to as a failure to connect will be labeled racism by Obama supporters. Actually, it already has been labeled racism by members of this forum.

He is extremely different from the heartland in much more than appearance

it is a shame his supporters label a failure of acceptance as appearance oriented

[xLIBREx]

I may have to eat crow. I never thought any Dem could lose to any Rep this cycle much less McCain who is less than exciting as a speech reader. Analysis please?

I kind of thought the same thing up until the moment the DNC forced Obama down the throats of their constituents (who probably still believe they picked Obama themselves).

Only Democrats could figure out how to snatch defeat from the jaws of an easy victory. This election should have been a "gimme" for them. Instead, they go gimmick black guy with no record and just expects their constituents to do as they are told and to STFU! Their hubris will cost them this election.

The real question is, will Democrats finally wake up and seriously hammer their party's failed leadership? Except for Clinton they have been out of the Oval Office for 20 of the past 28 years. Their leadership keeps trying to convince their constituents that these elections are being stolen instead of being LOST!

I mean, if we were talking about NFL coaching jobs, these guys would be at home watching football on TV on Sundays. I guess that's what entitlement mentalities vs performance based merit mentalities gets you.

[william the wierd]

I think you understate the case. The republicans suck so badly the dems really have to search for the bozoes they nominate. It's been 32 years since the Dems won both a majority of the EC and the popular vote, which I believe breaks their own record of futility set in the 1800s.