Kilpatrick to city: ‘There’s another day for me’

[Easy90]

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has pleaded guilty, ending a nearly eight month drama that has transfixed the region, paralyzed much of city business and halted a political career that once held such promise.

The deal calls for Kilpatrick to plead guilty to two felony counts of obstruction of justice by committing perjury, agreeing to serve four months in jail, pay up to $1 million in restitution, and serve five years' probation. He also agreed not to run for office during that five-year span.

More: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS01/309050001

[Osborn F. Enready]

This punishment is WAY TO LENIENT!

This guy should be doing hard time for over a year....at least.

Why does anyone bother with blue collar crime anymore, its obvious white collar crime pays much better, and the odds of getting a harsh sentence don't really exist when you are tried by white collar criminals.....

[brien]

This punishment is WAY TO LENIENT!

This guy should be doing hard time for over a year....at least.

Why does anyone bother with blue collar crime anymore, its obvious white collar crime pays much better, and the odds of getting a harsh sentence don't really exist when you are tried by white collar criminals.....


Os, this guy is connected so they had to punish him with jail time, just a little bit though.

Look what happended to Buddy Cianci in Providence RI. He got 5 years and was fined a $100,000 dollars and had to do 150 hrs community service. He was found guilty on one count of racketeering:


http://articles.latimes.com/2002/sep/07/nation/na-buddy7

Cianci was convicted in June on a single count of racketeering conspiracy after jurors agreed that he was the ringleader of a massive corruption scheme.


************************************************** ******************

Cianci did his time at the former Ft Dix NJ Federal prison and is now free, back in Providence with his old radio show back on the air. The people of R I love him even though he is a convicted racketeer. It just goes to show the depths that this Republic has sunk today.

[Osborn F. Enready]

brien said:
It just goes to show the depths that this Republic has sunk today.

Ain't that the truth of it all... :sick::dizzy:

[micfranklin]

Detroit needs a serious overhaul like Congress.

[PostmodernProphet]

yo, Lily....whatchagonna do.....Ghostbusters......

[xLIBREx]

Detroit needs a serious overhaul like Congress.

Chicago and corrupt politics are synonymous. Where's that Obama guy from again?

[NIOSA]

Detroit needs a serious overhaul like Congress.

:clapper:

[NIOSA]

Chicago and corrupt politics are synonymous. Where's that Obama guy from again?

Hawa....no wait, ken....that ain't right either...indone....nope, maybe Chicago?

[micfranklin]

Chicago and corrupt politics are synonymous. Where's that Obama guy from again?

You know I could've sworn I was talking about Detroit, you know, Motor City?

[william the wierd]

Not to worry the Rezko memoirs should launch between Nov. 4 and Jan. 19.

[Invayne]

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has pleaded guilty, ending a nearly eight month drama that has transfixed the region, paralyzed much of city business and halted a political career that once held such promise.

The deal calls for Kilpatrick to plead guilty to two felony counts of obstruction of justice by committing perjury, agreeing to serve four months in jail, pay up to $1 million in restitution, and serve five years' probation. He also agreed not to run for office during that five-year span.

More: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS01/309050001

Wait. Didn't Bill Clinton do the same thing and get NOTHING?:shock:

[Stoner]

Looks like this dirtbag went to the Obama school of ethics.

Same piece of shit, different toilet.

[william the wierd]

Wait. Didn't Bill Clinton do the same thing and get NOTHING?:shock:
Clinton had his license to practice law suspended.

[Invayne]

Clinton had his license to practice law suspended.

OH. Well, I guess we can sleep easier at night now!:madlaugh:

[Stoner]

Look at Hussein Obama's boy. Guess this is the "change" he was talking about.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa182/cpthephotographer/filmcamerapic.jpg

[lily]

Stoner....he had his picture taken with him......so that means he endorsed him? I live here......he never set foot in Detroit to endorse the mayor...in fact it was a Democratic Governor who started the hearing to finally make him step down.

Nice try.......but no cigar.

[Invayne]

Look at Hussein Obama's boy. Guess this is the "change" he was talking about.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa182/cpthephotographer/filmcamerapic.jpg

Come on,man, that's got to be photoshopped. He wouldn't be friends with THAT scumbucket, would he?

Never mind.

[Invayne]

Nice try.......but no cigar.

Why does everybody think of cigars after Bill Clinton's name is mentioned?:ponder:

[4Reaganomics]

That brother on the left has the most hillarious suit on I've ever seen. However, I wish it was clowns Obama hung with.

Instead it is corrupt politicians and terrorists.

Nice

[AnnEsthesia]

So standing next to someone taking a picture now equals friends?

[lily]

yo, Lily....whatchagonna do.....Ghostbusters......

Sit patiently and wait for this (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080214/NEWS01/802140434/1008/news06)trial.

[Invayne]

Sit patiently and wait for this (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080214/NEWS01/802140434/1008/news06)trial.

She was rumored to have danced at a party at the mayor's Manoogian Mansion in the fall of 2002. It has never been proved that such a party happened, and state Attorney General Mike Cox concluded the story was an urban legend.

But a memo to then-Police Chief Jerry Oliver from then-Deputy Chief Gary Brown described an allegation "that Mrs. Carlita Kilpatrick," the mayor's wife, "was involved in a physical altercation with a female dancer, causing bodily injury requiring medical attention."

HOLY SHIT! He had her killed, I just know it.:ecstatic:

Damn, she's perdy too.

[lily]

Is that where you stopped reading, Invayne?

[Easy90]

Lily edited my title (Which said Obama supported Kilpatrick) and sent me a PM saying she did so, because she said Obama did not support him.. Of course, that's not true..Here he is on U-tube expressly supporting him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

[Stoner]

Lily edited my title (Which said Obama supported Kilpatrick) and sent me a PM saying she did so, because she said Obama did not support him.. Of course, that's not true..Here he is on U-tube expressly supporting him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

I know the mods have double-standards but now they're changing our own words if we disagree or say something negative about Comrade Obama?

Wow. What's happening to this website? 80+ threads bashing Palin is OK but say something about Obama and they'll edit your threads and words.

Wow. Unbelievable.

[Easy90]

Here's Obama supporting Kilpatrick: (Lily says she "lives here...and it's not true.") and she edited my post .... Watch and judge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

[lily]

Lily changed the title for breaking 2 rules......if that's double standards, then go for it!

10. All thread titles must be accurate to the post.


F. (August 28, 2007) Staff may edit forum posts for accuracy in names for
both members or political figures. This is according to rule #11 and #12.
While some may consider altering a public figures name to be fun we consider
it uncivil and inflammatory. This goes against our mission of civil debate.
Also we have considered the implication of search engines and the value we
are losing by not using the proper name.

No where in the original article did it state that Obama endorsed Kilpatrick.....Easy found this u-tube video, was told to start a new thread with his original title if he didn't like the change, posted it here in the middle of the thread, thinking no one would notice that it wasn't in the article.........and decided to try to start trouble.

Nice try...........maybe next time.:thumbsup:

[Stoner]

Here's Obama supporting Kilpatrick: (Lily says she "lives here...and it's not true.") and she edited my post .... Watch and judge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

Oops! Busted again.

Don't sweat it, Easy. If they want to play the double-standard/edit all posts that show Obama in a bad light game then let them.

In the end it won't change anything.

I don't think they even change your own words at Kos and Moveon.

[Easy90]

Lily changed the title for breaking 2 rules......if that's double standards, then go for it!



No where in the original article did it state that Obama endorsed Kilpatrick.....Easy found this u-tube video, was told to start a new thread with his original title if he didn't like the change, posted it here in the middle of the thread, thinking no one would notice that it wasn't in the article.........and decided to try to start trouble.

Nice try...........maybe next time.:thumbsup:

Nupe! Lily is embrodering! She changed the title because she didn't agree with it...It said, "Obama Endorsed Kilpatrick" She sent me a PM saying she changed it because "she lives here" (In Detroit) and she knew it wasn't true!

So I ask the forum...is it wise to allow these partisan mods to change post content instead of just answering it with a rebuttal? Again...here's proof that my title saying Obama supported Kilpatrick is absolutely true. I request Lily be administratively admonished for her infraction... Bad Lily! Bad! Bad! Bad! Sit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

[lily]

Nupe! Lily is lying! She changed the title because she didn't agree with it...It said, "Obama Endorsed Kilpatrick" She sent me a PM saying she changed it because "she lives here" (In Detroit) and she knew it wasn't true!

One last time, Easy.....I changed it for the reasons stated above....the same reason I told you when I sent you the PM.

So I ask the forum...is it wise to allow these partisan mods to change post content instead of just answering it with a rebuttal? Again...here's proof that my title saying Obama supported Kilpatrick is absolutely true. I request Lily be administratively admonished for her infraction... Bad Lily! Bad! Bad! Bad! Sit!

If you look back.......I did reply to the orginal post......twice. I did not chage post content. If you want me to say I made a mistake because I said Obama never set foot in Detroit to endose Obama......fine, I've admitted mistakes before.......I was wrong. Obama was in Michigan speaking at the Economic Club and spoke about Kilpatrick.......but I was not wrong in changing the title of this thread...you want to call me partisan for following the rules....go for it.....I get it from everybody, on both sides of the political aisle.....all part of the job I get highly paid to do.

[Invayne]

Is that where you stopped reading, Invayne?

Um, well, I didn't read the whole thing yet.

[Invayne]

Lily edited my title (Which said Obama supported Kilpatrick) and sent me a PM saying she did so, because she said Obama did not support him.. Of course, that's not true..Here he is on U-tube expressly supporting him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

That's proof enough for me. Lily, do you not believe the words of Obama out of his own mouth?

[Invayne]

I know the mods have double-standards but now they're changing our own words if we disagree or say something negative about Comrade Obama?

Wow. What's happening to this website? 80+ threads bashing Palin is OK but say something about Obama and they'll edit your threads and words.

Wow. Unbelievable.

I thought this was the original title of the thread???

[Invayne]

Here's Obama supporting Kilpatrick: (Lily says she "lives here...and it's not true.") and she edited my post .... Watch and judge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

Yep, I listened again, and he still said the same thing....

[Stoner]

Next they'll change your user name for not saluting Comrade Obama.

[Invayne]

Lily changed the title for breaking 2 rules......if that's double standards, then go for it!



No where in the original article did it state that Obama endorsed Kilpatrick.....Easy found this u-tube video, was told to start a new thread with his original title if he didn't like the change, posted it here in the middle of the thread, thinking no one would notice that it wasn't in the article.........and decided to try to start trouble.

Nice try...........maybe next time.:thumbsup:

Oh come on, Lily. The left does it all the time...and is this REALLY changing the subject? Obama supports Kilpatrick...it's right there in front of your face, babe! Why can't you just admit that the guy you're voting for has MAJOR flaws? Why do you want to vote for him in the first place? You seem like an intelligent woman...WHY do you want this socialist piece of shit as our president? If you were voting for Hillary, I could respect that more.

[william the wierd]

In Lily's defense silly rules can be found on any forum. Some jackass finds a loophole, drives a Paladin through it and opens fire. Then there's about 8 iterations of rule changes before something resembling sanity returns. Sounds to me like a feedback thread needs to be spun off.

[Invayne]

In Lily's defense silly rules can be found on any forum. Some jackass finds a loophole, drives a Paladin through it and opens fire. Then there's about 8 iterations of rule changes before something resembling sanity returns. Sounds to me like a feedback thread needs to be spun off.

All anyone's saying is here's the ugly truth, now vote for it, of don't vote for it. I choose not to vote for it. But I won't vote for McCain either. I think both of these fuckers can suck Palin's moose balls for all I care.

[xLIBREx]

Lily edited the title? I had higher hopes here and I am finding out more and more I was wrong. What's next, we have to post "all hail lord Obama" at the beginning of every post here?

November is my birthday month and I can't wait for the most satisfying birthday present I have ever had. Dreaming of all those liberals crying themselves asleep into their pillows every night for the next 6 months will make the sun a little brighter, the grass a little greener, food will taste a little better, not too mention all the insane foil hat conspiracy theories we will get to hear about why the election was stolen from Obama. I'm going down to Sam's to stock up on popcorn tomorrow.

[xLIBREx]

Oh come on, it's right there in front of your face, babe!

The religious will not be swayed by any pesky evidence. In their world, as long as they never acknowledge it, then it doesn't exist. Even better when you have the power to erase the evidence!

[Invayne]

Lily edited the title? I had higher hopes here and I am finding out more and more I was wrong. What's next, we have to post "all hail lord Obama" at the beginning of every post here?

November is my birthday month and I can't wait for the most satisfying birthday present I have ever had. Dreaming of all those liberals crying themselves asleep into their pillows every night for the next 6 months will make the sun a little brighter, the grass a little greener, food will taste a little better, not too mention all the insane foil hat conspiracy theories we will get to hear about why the election was stolen from Obama. I'm going down to Sam's to stock up on popcorn tomorrow.

Don't count your chickens before they've hatched. I remember when Clinton was first elected...thought it would never happen. But then again, it wasn't surprising..."Read My Lips"...asshole.

[xLIBREx]

Bush Sr. was a sitting duck against Slick Willy for exactly the reason you mentioned.

[Invayne]

The religious will not be swayed by any pesky evidence. In their world, as long as they never acknowledge it, then it doesn't exist. Even better when you have the power to erase the evidence!

Libre, I'm not sure what you're talking about...when were we talking about religion? Am I that wasted?:peace:

[Invayne]

Bush Sr. was a sitting duck against Slick Willy for exactly the reason you mentioned.

That's right, but I still didn't expect Clinton to win. I underestimated the American people that day. Actually, that was another election where the both of them were shit.

[xLIBREx]

Libre, I'm not sure what you're talking about...when were we talking about religion? Am I that wasted?:peace:

Democrats treat politics as religion. Just like the devoutly religious, they accept many things as axiom which simply aren't true. They believe in "saviors" and completely suspend disbelief in that pursuit. Contradictions in their candidates words and actions are ignored just as contradictions in their religious texts are. Their worlds are set in stone and anything which doesn't fit simply never gets a chance. It's never for a single second given an objective chance.

It's just ironic because you have so many Democrats who claim to be atheists and laugh at religion and they don't even realize they are no different.

[Invayne]

Democrats treat politics as religion. Just like the devoutly religious, they accept many things as axiom which simply aren't true. They believe in "saviors" and completely suspend disbelief in that pursuit. Contradictions in their candidates words and actions are ignored just as contradictions in their religious texts are. Their worlds are set in stone and anything which doesn't fit simply never gets a chance. It's never for a single second given an objective chance.

It's just ironic because you have so many Democrats who claim to be atheists and laugh at religion and they don't even realize they are no different.

Well, I guess I didn't understand that because I'm not a "Party" person. I don't get down on my knees for the Republican Party! LOL!! Actually, I'm leaving that fucking party right after the election. I don't want to be affiliated with either one of the "major" parties. They both suck monkey balls.

[xLIBREx]

Well, I guess I didn't understand that because I'm not a "Party" person. I don't get down on my knees for the Republican Party! LOL!! Actually, I'm leaving that fucking party right after the election. I don't want to be affiliated with either one of the "major" parties. They both suck monkey balls.

Hey, my conscience tells me to write in Ron Paul. If I still lived in Ca that would be a no brainer. But, the pragmatist in me knows I have a lot of employees who count on me and that my vote in Florida actually means something. It really is exactly as I have stated in my sig line. I would rather have diarrhea than to vomit. Just because I am making a choice it shouldn't be mistaken for support.

[Invayne]

Hey, my conscience tells me to write in Ron Paul. If I still lived in Ca that would be a no brainer. But, the pragmatist in me knows I have a lot of employees who count on me and that my vote in Florida actually means something. It really is exactly as I have stated in my sig line. I would rather have diarrhea than to vomit. Just because I am making a choice it shouldn't be mistaken for support.

I can understand that. I still don't know what I'm going to do.

Bob Barr?

[Troubadour]

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick has pleaded guilty, ending a nearly eight month drama that has transfixed the region

:madlaugh:

paralyzed much of city business

Such as...?

and halted a political career that once held such promise.

Unlike past Mayors of Detroit, who have gone on to become...?

[Invayne]

:madlaugh:



Such as...?



Unlike past Mayors of Detroit, who have gone on to become...?

:madlaugh:That is pretty funny, isn't it?

[G.B.]

Having grown up in the Detroit area, I am one person who is happy to say that Detroit is a great place to be FROM, the further away FROM the better.

[Invayne]

Having grown up in the Detroit area, I am one person who is happy to say that Detroit is a great place to be FROM, the further away FROM the better.

:madlaugh: I'm sure!

[Osborn F. Enready]

Obama liked the BS Kilpatrick was talking about another "new deal styled" public works program for detroit....

If it ain't one kind of felony being supported, its another.

[brien]

Nupe! Lily is embrodering! She changed the title because she didn't agree with it...It said, "Obama Endorsed Kilpatrick" She sent me a PM saying she changed it because "she lives here" (In Detroit) and she knew it wasn't true!

So I ask the forum...is it wise to allow these partisan mods to change post content instead of just answering it with a rebuttal? Again...here's proof that my title saying Obama supported Kilpatrick is absolutely true. I request Lily be administratively admonished for her infraction... Bad Lily! Bad! Bad! Bad! Sit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZNvC_-RW2Q

I heard Obama say the Mayor was a "great leader" and that Obama looked forward to a "lengthy collaboration" with him.

Collaboration, as defined in the Heritage Dictionary: to work together, especially in a joint intellectual effort,.. to cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupying one's country.


Now, this begs the question, if one doesn't support another, then why would they collaborate? Oh yes, to "cooperate treasonably"....Interesting choice of words there Obama. Which is the meaning he was most comfortable with in his speech here? Either one, casts doubt upon his judgement and character.

Obama might not have used the word "endorse" but he used just as strong a word when he said "collaborate". Perhaps the title of the thread should have read:

"Obama pledges to collaborate with the Mayor."

Then it could be deduced that Obama, once again, collaborated with now convicted criminals.

[Invayne]

Add one more to the list of many.

[william the wierd]

Obama is just a typical Chicago pol. He's so crooked he makes a dog's hind leg look straight.

[ttriber]

Obama is just a typical Chicago pol. He's so crooked he makes a dog's hind leg look straight.

Wow that that quote is a classic man.

[Invayne]

Obama is just a typical Chicago pol. He's so crooked he makes a dog's hind leg look straight.

He makes Bill Clinton's d*ck look straight too!

[william the wierd]

He makes Bill Clinton's d*ck look straight too!
wtf literally, what firsthand or documented source are you using? do you haVE LInks? Medical reports or primary sources would be appreciated.

[Invayne]

wtf literally, what firsthand or documented source are you using? do you haVE LInks? Medical reports or primary sources would be appreciated.

Peyronie's Disease

Awareness of Peyronie's disease increased when US President Bill Clinton's erect penis was described as having an angled bend visible during a sexual misconduct case - this is typical of the disease, which affects as many as 1 in 100 men.

Peyronie's disease is a disorder that affects the penis and can cause a lump within the shaft of the penis, pain and an abnormal angle of the erect penis causing it to appear bent.

While all of these features may not be present, in typical cases the man will notice a tender lump in the penis, which might later be followed by bending of the penis when erect, sometimes at very odd angles.

The flaccid penis remains normal, it is only bent when erect.

http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/homeandhealth/article.jsp?section_id=5&theme_id=13&subtheme_id=25&article_id=192&site=uk

[xLIBREx]

Peyronie's Disease

Awareness of Peyronie's disease increased when US President Bill Clinton's erect penis was described as having an angled bend visible during a sexual misconduct case - this is typical of the disease, which affects as many as 1 in 100 men.

Peyronie's disease is a disorder that affects the penis and can cause a lump within the shaft of the penis, pain and an abnormal angle of the erect penis causing it to appear bent.

While all of these features may not be present, in typical cases the man will notice a tender lump in the penis, which might later be followed by bending of the penis when erect, sometimes at very odd angles.

The flaccid penis remains normal, it is only bent when erect.

http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/homeandhealth/article.jsp?section_id=5&theme_id=13&subtheme_id=25&article_id=192&site=uk

Or it could just be Hillary is a ball buster.

[Invayne]

Or it could just be Hillary is a ball buster.

:lmao:

[Troubadour]

Obama is just a typical Chicago pol. He's so crooked he makes a dog's hind leg look straight.

Uh, no. He's the most honest, forthright, and honorable major party candidate in decades, which is why Republicans have lost what passes for their minds. They are now in the rocking-back-and-forth-hugging-their-knees-and-talking-to-themselves phase, which is basically all your comment represents. You call a world-renowned genius a fool; an inspiring leader a tabloid celebrity; a man who fought for everything he has and wants to share with others an elitist; and so on, and so on. He is everything Republicans are not, and embodies the best in America.
Game over. Scumbags lose.

[william the wierd]

Thanks for the answer invayne. To add to your wisdom the learning curve of a woman going through menopause may result in a penis cyst. If surgery is required do not say the words "You want local anesthesia. General anesthesia will make you sick." Bad consequences include divorce and instantaneous death from lead poisoning just say "My bad" and shut up.

[Wndrtch]

What, is he going to get a spot in the Obama Cabinet?

[Invayne]

Thanks for the answer invayne. To add to your wisdom the learning curve of a woman going through menopause may result in a penis cyst. If surgery is required do not say the words "You want local anesthesia. General anesthesia will make you sick." Bad consequences include divorce and instantaneous death from lead poisoning just say "My bad" and shut up.

Um...wow!:lmao:

[Invayne]

a world-renowned genius

WTF?????:madlaugh:

[Invayne]

What, is he going to get a spot in the Obama Cabinet?

Last I heard, he wanted to be head of the UN. Pfffft!

[Troubadour]

WTF?????:madlaugh:

Don't worry, you'll figure it out eventually.

[G.B.]

In a way, I hope O'bama does get elected. I would hate to see so many jumping off cliffs if he loses.

[lily]

Having grown up in the Detroit area, I am one person who is happy to say that Detroit is a great place to be FROM, the further away FROM the better.

Where about if you don't mind my asking? I still live in the area.

[Invayne]

In a way, I hope O'bama does get elected. I would hate to see so many jumping off cliffs if he loses.

Wouldn't bother me one bit.

[G.B.]

Where about if you don't mind my asking? I still live in the area.

14 and Woodward, also near 12 and Greenfield.

Now by the at the tip of the mitt

[Troubadour]

In a way, I hope O'bama does get elected.

Then vote for him.

I would hate to see so many jumping off cliffs if he loses.

It will be sad to see all the acts of terrorism Republicans commit in impotent rage when Obama wins.