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December
09-04-2008, 04:58 PM
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11 hours ago: ST. PAUL, MN - SEPTEMBER 03: Presumptive Republican U.S presidential nominee U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) (L) and Republican U.S vice-presidential nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin stand on stage on day three of the Republican National Convention (RNC) at the Xcel Energy Center on September 3, 2008 in St. Paul, Minnesota. The GOP will nominate U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the Republican choice for U.S. President on the last day of the convention.
December
09-04-2008, 04:59 PM
From Yahoo News:
Sarah Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'
By GENE JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer Wed Sep 3, 7:23 PM ET
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."
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Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there. "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said.
"That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."
A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.
Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.
"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.
"I can do my job there in developing our natural resources and doing things like getting the roads paved and making sure our troopers have their cop cars and their uniforms and their guns, and making sure our public schools are funded," she added. "But really all of that stuff doesn't do any good if the people of Alaska's heart isn't right with God."
Palin attended the evangelical church from the time she was a teenager until 2002, the church said in a statement posted on its Web site. She has continued to attend special conferences and meetings there. Religious conservatives have welcomed her selection as John McCain's running mate.
Rob Boston, a spokesman for Americans United for Separation of Church and State, lamented Palin's comments.
"I miss the days when pastors delivered sermons and politicians delivered political speeches," he said. "The United States is increasingly diverse religiously. The job of a president is to unify all those different people and bring them together around policy goals, not to act as a kind of national pastor and bring people to God."
The section of the church's Web site where videos of past sermons were posted was shut down Wednesday, and a message was posted saying that the site "was never intended to handle the traffic it has received in the last few days."
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_iraq_war
PatrickHenry
09-04-2008, 05:45 PM
Sounds like a certain brain-dead President...
December
09-04-2008, 06:27 PM
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_iraq_war
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Bush: "So if I understand you correctly, Jesus, I nuke Iran and then invade N. Korea? Or do I nuke N. Korea and then invade Iran? And do I do this after we spread the bird flu at anti-war protests and quarantine all the commies?"
God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers
President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.
Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did.
And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
Abu Mazen was at the same meeting and recounts how President Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."
The series charts the attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, from President Bill Clinton's peace talks in 1999/2000 to Israel's withdrawal from Gaza last August.
Norma Percy, series producer of The 50 Years War (1998) returns, with producers Mark Anderson and Dan Edge, to tell the inside story of another seven years of crisis.
Presidents and Prime Ministers, their generals and ministers tell what happened behind closed doors as peace talks failed and the intifada exploded.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml
December
09-04-2008, 08:20 PM
Here's more interesting info on Sarah:
I did a drive-by of Palin’s church when I was traveling through Wasilla yesterday, not realizing the furor that would be churning the blogosphere less than 24-hours later about a speech Palin delivered there only three months ago. Here’s what she said regarding the war in Iraq.
“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God.”
Let that sink in a minute. A task that is from God. Sarah’s war is a holy war.
It’s not, apparently from the God that says “turn the other cheek” or “I am my brother’s keeper” or “the greatest of all these is love”. It’s not about diplomacy, international relations, figuring out why we are so despised in the Middle East, keeping Israel secure, revamping how the U.S. deals with its unsustainable dependence on foreign oil, combating poverty and desperation that leads young men to terrorism. Nope. This war is God’s will. It’s God’s holy war. She went on:
That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.
So the plan is to pray for a plan? Perhaps it would have been better to pray for a plan beFORE we went to Iraq. Better still to sit down and create a plan - a thoughtful, intelligent, human-type plan.
Knowing that Palin has only been out of the country once, in 2007, to visit the Alaska Guard in Kuwait, we rightfully wonder what might influence her international policy. How will her decisions be made? What is her style of governance? Well, folks, this might just be it. Pray for a plan and hope it’s the right one.
Is this one more step toward the End Times of the McCain-Palin ticket? Let us pray.
READ MORE -- http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palins-preacher-problem-end-times-coming/
Milton Bradley
09-04-2008, 11:22 PM
It seems the bulk of the Neocons are just extremist Christians who are inteding to have us all finance their little fight in the Middle East.
Nothing more than the State sponsored terrorists.
December
09-05-2008, 01:48 AM
Sarah Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'
By GENE JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer Wed Sep 3, 7:23 PM ET
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."
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Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_iraq_war
Just take a look at these people:
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Lu Sackett of Wasilla, Alaska, holds up a "Drill Now" sign a local restaurant in Wasilla, Alaska as he watches Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin talk about energy problems as she accepts the Republican nomination for vice President during the GOP convention, Wednesday Sept. 3, 2008. Wasilla is the home of Palin, where she grew up and was mayor before being elected as Alaska's governor.
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Lisa Scott, of Wasilla, Alaska, a Democrat, joins crowds at a local restaurant and pub in Wasilla as they cheer watching Aaska Gov. Sarah Palin accept the Republican nomination for vice President during the GOP convention, Wednesday Sept. 3, 2008. Wasilla is the home of Palin, where she grew up and was mayor before being elected as Alaska's governor and now the Republican vice president nominee.
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Kathy Chapoton, wife of, Martin Buser four-time champion of the Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race, cheers at a local restaurant in Wasilla, Alaska as Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin gives her acceptance speech for the Republican nomination for Vice President during the GOP convention, Wednesday Sept. 3, 2008. Wasilla is the home of Palin, where she grew up and was mayor before being elected as Alaska's governor.
NDNdancer
09-05-2008, 04:56 AM
Well, so much for separation of church and state.
Leslie
09-05-2008, 05:04 AM
Well, so much for separation of church and state.
McCain said "We are all Americans and we are all God's children."
xLIBREx
09-05-2008, 05:50 AM
Pretty dumb pandering, but I love the irony of lefties who are have simply substituted politics for religion then attacking other people for stupid religious beliefs. From an objective standpoint, there's no difference.
That wacky beauty queen speaking out on the War before she has been properly briefed. What's next? Telling us she really doesn't know what the VP is supposed to do?
Trish
09-05-2008, 01:26 PM
These are the same posters who had no problem with the "God damn America" language from the pulpit, but do have a problem with equating serving your country in battle as being as Godly mission?
Jeez people - where's the broad-minded understanding of the first instance in the second? If it's acceptable to call for Godly discipline for America's transgressions, why is it not okay to call for prayer supporting our troops and their mission?
December
09-08-2008, 07:29 PM
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A delegate displays a T-shirt, available at the Republican Convention gift shop for $35, during the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota September 4, 2008.
December
09-09-2008, 12:58 AM
Here are more clues why Republicans selected Sarah from Alaska:
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ST. PAUL, MN - SEPTEMBER 02: Pat Fink of Alaska stands on the floor wearing a "Drill Anwr Now" pin on day two of the Republican National Convention (RNC) at the Xcel Energy Center on September 2, 2008 in St. Paul, Minnesota.
Congressional debate in N.O. focuses on U.S. energy policy
NEW ORLEANS — With the fall presidential election only 99 days away, four-member debate teams of congressional Democrats and Republicans clashed often Monday during a lively Tulane University forum over how to fix the nation’s energy crisis.
“We are the only country in the world that has made it illegal to use American energy assets,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., referring to longstanding bans against construction of new nuclear power plants and oil drilling in both the Alaska National Wildlife Arctic Refuge, and the Outer Continental Shelf Gulf of Mexico.
Bachmann, a freshman lawmaker and the first Republican woman elected to the U.S. House from Minnesota, then turned to her Democratic colleagues at the forum and asked: “Will you agree to make legal energy production in the United States?”
“Look, how many times do we have say it?” Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Michigan, a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, replied: “Democrats are for drilling, but let’s drill responsibly.”
Stupak suggested oil and gas companies are dragging their feet on drilling in vast areas already approved for exploration and production, just so the industry can finally get access to oil fields under an Alaska wildlife refuge known as ANWAR.
The Democrat says that 79 percent of the oil leases in the 44 million acres if the Outer Continental Shelf are not being drilled and environmentally “cleared” areas of Alaska also remain inactive.
“If (oil companies) are not going to drill (with oil) at $140 a barrel — when are they going to drill?” Stupak said.
Turning to Rep. Bachmann, the veteran Democrat said:
“You keep bringing up ANWAR. What about the natural petroleum reserves in Alaska which has been around since 1923? Yet, you still can’t find your way there to drill. Instead you want to go in a wildlife preserve and drill.”
Bachmann said that there is “not one acre” of federal land leased for drilling that is under some stage of development by oil and gas firms.
“Trust me, people who are purchasing these permits for lease want to be able to drill but they have to go through every hurdle in the book before they can start drilling,” she said.
READ MORE -- http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/26018899.html
apdst
09-09-2008, 01:03 AM
Viola say:Well, so much for separation of church and state.
Does that mean that Nancy Pelosi shouldn't be allowed to say that Obama was sent to use by God?
Elrathin
09-09-2008, 04:26 AM
These are the same posters who had no problem with the "God damn America" language from the pulpit, but do have a problem with equating serving your country in battle as being as Godly mission?
The difference? The comment of God Damn America wasn't coming from a candidate. Jeez, that one is a no brainer.
Elrathin
09-09-2008, 04:28 AM
Does that mean that Nancy Pelosi shouldn't be allowed to say that Obama was sent to use by God?
I don't think there are people saying she isn't ALLOWED to say it, just that she looks like a religious nutball when she does. And yes, that goes for Pelosi as well. Can you say the same for the right's view of Saint Sarah?
Does that mean that Nancy Pelosi shouldn't be allowed to say that Obama was sent to use by God?
How does this=Obama was sent to us by God? Have you been blessed by God to have a loving family? Does that mean your loving family was sent by God just for you?
He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him “a leader that God has blessed us with at this time.”
PatrickHenry
09-09-2008, 06:46 PM
...If it's acceptable to call for Godly discipline for America's transgressions, why is it not okay to call for prayer supporting our troops and their mission?Maybe because they're killing innocent people in faraway lands that have never threatened America in the least?
azzig
09-09-2008, 07:25 PM
this is too long to post the entire thing probably. you'll have to read it yourself. I guess it's OUR nature as a republic to overtake other countries and RUN them for OUR gain.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3911613
theoutsider
09-10-2008, 07:12 AM
These are the same posters who had no problem with the "God damn America" language from the pulpit, but do have a problem with equating serving your country in battle as being as Godly mission?
Jeez people - where's the broad-minded understanding of the first instance in the second? If it's acceptable to call for Godly discipline for America's transgressions, why is it not okay to call for prayer supporting our troops and their mission?
God damn America is using god as a symbol of a failure to meet a positive ideology (end hypocritical foreign policy, make the union more perfect, end racism, etc.)
A war as a godly mission is using god as a symbol of war, which I would hope most would agree isn't a positive ideal.
It appears many have lost the critical powers to focus on ideals when analyzing rhetoric.
December
09-11-2008, 01:10 AM
It's not going to be that easy as Drill It Now people wish....
From Seattle Times:
We can't drill our way out of oil dependency
September 10, 2008
By James W. Murray and Jim Hansen
THERE has been much debate between President Bush and Congress and between the presidential candidates about removing the ban on offshore drilling. This distracts us from what really needs to be done to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. We need an emergency strategy for reducing oil consumption now.
If the United States wants to reduce its oil dependency, it could do so by immediately reducing the speed limit to 55 mph and increasing the mileage rating of cars by 10 mpg. These two steps together would almost eliminate our need for oil from Saudi Arabia.
And for the future, we need to set ourselves on a new energy path toward the post-oil energy economics of the future. These policies should include increased efficiency of vehicles, which should include mass production of electric vehicles, tax breaks for increased efficiencies in households and businesses, a renaissance of nuclear power, expansion of renewable energy sources and development of solar electrical production.
It is wishful thinking that offshore drilling will make oil more plentiful and bring down the price. Bush recently stated offshore drilling could yield up to 18 billion barrels of oil. This estimate is unverifiable, as seismic surveys with modern technology have not been run in most of the outer continental shelf to see if there are any oil-trapping structures, and test wells have not been drilled to see if the structures that might exist have any oil. Such drilling will not happen soon, as all the world's deep-water oil rigs are already reserved for the next five years. Oil companies already have leases for many desirable sites but they are not developing them. Ironically, they have needed the current high price of oil to make them economic.
Based on comparisons with other regions, the U.S. Geological Survey estimated that there is a 95 percent probability that there are 5.7 billion barrels of technically recoverable but undiscovered oil in the ANWR. First production is estimated to be nine to 12 years from permit approval. Peak production was estimated to be 0.6 to 1.9 million barrels of oil per day after 20 to 30 years.
READ MORE -- http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008170009_newdrillingop10.html?syndication=rss
Sarah Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_iraq_war
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