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December
09-02-2008, 11:05 PM
Alaska was included illegally. Sarah Palin has no legal right to be a VP of an American president.

Do you agree? Disagree? And why?

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-CE739_palin__NS_20080829124451.jpg


From Wiki:

The legal status of Alaska is the standing of Alaska as a political entity. Generally, the debate has primarily surrounded the legal status of Alaska relative to the United States of America. Alaska is usually considered to be a state under the sovereignty of the United States of America. Nonetheless, U.S. sovereignty over Alaska has been disputed at times, most recently by a movement launched by Joe Vogler and the Alaskan Independence Party. In disputes over the legal status of Alaska, a key issue has been the tension between its de facto and de jure international standing.
The dispute dates back to events in the 20th century. In 1959, Alaska was admitted to the Union. However, opponents believe this was done contrary to international law as the vote for statehood did not follow United Nation rules. Specifically, the vote did not allow Alaskans the option of independence.

http://blog.travelpost.com/wp-content/alaska.jpg


Alaska became a territory of the United States in 1867 when it was purchased from Russia. Events in the 20th century such as World War Two and the Cold War led to the decision to add Alaska as a state to the American Union. President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Alaska Statehood Act into United States law on 7 July 1958, which paved the way for Alaska's admission into the Union on January 3, 1959.

The vote for statehood was held in 1958. Voters approved the measure by a 6 to 1 margin [1]. Critics of Alaskan statehood, though, claim the vote was flawed [2]. The United Nations Charter requires that a non-self governing territory be given a ballot choices of remaining a territory, becoming a separate and independent nation, accept Commonwealth status, or becoming a state. The options on the ballot were for statehood or to remain a territory. There was no option for independence on the ballot.
Critics of the vote also note that American military personnel voted in the election. This is also pointed to as a violation of international law which specifies that only the civilian population of a territory may vote. Despite the criticism, the United Nations decolonization committee later removed Alaska from the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories.
This article deals only with theoretical arguments regarding Alaska's de jure status under certain interpretations of international law. The debate is considered by some to resemble the same academic discourse being argued by several other activist groups in the United States, including arguments around the Legal status of Hawaii and the Legal status of Texas. The situation most closely resembles Hawaii as the Hawaiian statehood vote also lacked an option for independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Alaska

1958: Alaska’s Statehood Elections
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ltgov/elections/stathood.htm

Waffletush
09-02-2008, 11:38 PM
side note: I cannot believe I am responding to this.

December, can you show me where in the US Constitution is says in order to be President of the United States that Alaska must be a state?

xLIBREx
09-03-2008, 02:00 AM
First thing I pictured:

http://anglopapist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tin-foil-hat.jpg

preservanation
09-03-2008, 02:12 AM
Don't give the DKOS any ideas

BoogyMan
09-03-2008, 02:21 AM
Don't give the DKOS any ideas

I can just see the KOS morons calling for a referendum on excluding Alaska from the election. That is too funny. :ecstatic:

preservanation
09-03-2008, 02:30 AM
LOL!!!
We laugh now Boggy, but when they actually do try that we'll be.....going to to effin hysterics!!!!
:ecstatic:

NIOSA
09-03-2008, 02:42 AM
Sarah Palin was born in Idaho. :lmao:

Waffletush
09-03-2008, 02:53 AM
NIOSA,

Doesn't matter where she was born. Since Brazil is not a US state, she cannot be President.

December
09-03-2008, 02:53 AM
side note: I cannot believe I am responding to this.

December, can you show me where in the US Constitution is says in order to be President of the United States that Alaska must be a state?

You need to ask those who included Alaska into the USA and not me.

Waffletush
09-03-2008, 02:55 AM
Hey December, in a separate thread you said Georgia (non-US) was a US state. Can their citizens be President of the USA?

Alonzo
09-03-2008, 02:58 AM
Alaska was included illegally. Sarah Palin has no legal right to be a VP of an American president.

Do you agree? Disagree? And why?

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-CE739_palin__NS_20080829124451.jpg


From Wiki:

The legal status of Alaska is the standing of Alaska as a political entity. Generally, the debate has primarily surrounded the legal status of Alaska relative to the United States of America. Alaska is usually considered to be a state under the sovereignty of the United States of America. Nonetheless, U.S. sovereignty over Alaska has been disputed at times, most recently by a movement launched by Joe Vogler and the Alaskan Independence Party. In disputes over the legal status of Alaska, a key issue has been the tension between its de facto and de jure international standing.
The dispute dates back to events in the 20th century. In 1959, Alaska was admitted to the Union. However, opponents believe this was done contrary to international law as the vote for statehood did not follow United Nation rules. Specifically, the vote did not allow Alaskans the option of independence.

http://blog.travelpost.com/wp-content/alaska.jpg


Alaska became a territory of the United States in 1867 when it was purchased from Russia. Events in the 20th century such as World War Two and the Cold War led to the decision to add Alaska as a state to the American Union. President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Alaska Statehood Act into United States law on 7 July 1958, which paved the way for Alaska's admission into the Union on January 3, 1959.

The vote for statehood was held in 1958. Voters approved the measure by a 6 to 1 margin [1]. Critics of Alaskan statehood, though, claim the vote was flawed [2]. The United Nations Charter requires that a non-self governing territory be given a ballot choices of remaining a territory, becoming a separate and independent nation, accept Commonwealth status, or becoming a state. The options on the ballot were for statehood or to remain a territory. There was no option for independence on the ballot.
Critics of the vote also note that American military personnel voted in the election. This is also pointed to as a violation of international law which specifies that only the civilian population of a territory may vote. Despite the criticism, the United Nations decolonization committee later removed Alaska from the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories.
This article deals only with theoretical arguments regarding Alaska's de jure status under certain interpretations of international law. The debate is considered by some to resemble the same academic discourse being argued by several other activist groups in the United States, including arguments around the Legal status of Hawaii and the Legal status of Texas. The situation most closely resembles Hawaii as the Hawaiian statehood vote also lacked an option for independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Alaska

1958: Alaska’s Statehood Elections
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ltgov/elections/stathood.htm

Stop right now. Turn around, walk about 5 miles, turn right, walk another 2 miles and then open the door.

CONGRATULATIONS! Welcome to reality!

xLIBREx
09-03-2008, 02:58 AM
You need to ask those who included Alaska into the USA and not me.

Do you really not understand why people are laughing at your post? She was born a naturalized U.S. citizen in IDAHO! CASE FUCKING CLOSED.

PostmodernProphet
09-03-2008, 03:05 AM
Putin is actually Jewish, therefore he is illegally the dictator of Russia......

xLIBREx
09-03-2008, 03:13 AM
Putin is actually Jewish, therefore he is illegally the dictator of Russia......


Well, that one is true!

:thumbsup:

gpruitt54
09-03-2008, 03:27 AM
Alaska was included illegally. Sarah Palin has no legal right to be a VP of an American president.

Do you agree? Disagree? And why?

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-CE739_palin__NS_20080829124451.jpg


From Wiki:

The legal status of Alaska is the standing of Alaska as a political entity. Generally, the debate has primarily surrounded the legal status of Alaska relative to the United States of America. Alaska is usually considered to be a state under the sovereignty of the United States of America. Nonetheless, U.S. sovereignty over Alaska has been disputed at times, most recently by a movement launched by Joe Vogler and the Alaskan Independence Party. In disputes over the legal status of Alaska, a key issue has been the tension between its de facto and de jure international standing.
The dispute dates back to events in the 20th century. In 1959, Alaska was admitted to the Union. However, opponents believe this was done contrary to international law as the vote for statehood did not follow United Nation rules. Specifically, the vote did not allow Alaskans the option of independence.

http://blog.travelpost.com/wp-content/alaska.jpg


Alaska became a territory of the United States in 1867 when it was purchased from Russia. Events in the 20th century such as World War Two and the Cold War led to the decision to add Alaska as a state to the American Union. President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Alaska Statehood Act into United States law on 7 July 1958, which paved the way for Alaska's admission into the Union on January 3, 1959.

The vote for statehood was held in 1958. Voters approved the measure by a 6 to 1 margin [1]. Critics of Alaskan statehood, though, claim the vote was flawed [2]. The United Nations Charter requires that a non-self governing territory be given a ballot choices of remaining a territory, becoming a separate and independent nation, accept Commonwealth status, or becoming a state. The options on the ballot were for statehood or to remain a territory. There was no option for independence on the ballot.
Critics of the vote also note that American military personnel voted in the election. This is also pointed to as a violation of international law which specifies that only the civilian population of a territory may vote. Despite the criticism, the United Nations decolonization committee later removed Alaska from the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories.
This article deals only with theoretical arguments regarding Alaska's de jure status under certain interpretations of international law. The debate is considered by some to resemble the same academic discourse being argued by several other activist groups in the United States, including arguments around the Legal status of Hawaii and the Legal status of Texas. The situation most closely resembles Hawaii as the Hawaiian statehood vote also lacked an option for independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Alaska

1958: Alaska’s Statehood Elections
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ltgov/elections/stathood.htm

Do you actually believe that Republicans care anything about legalities? They don't even know what the word means. These nearly eight years have shown this.

xLIBREx
09-03-2008, 03:42 AM
Do you actually believe that Republicans care anything about legalities? They don't even know what the word means. These nearly eight years have shown this.

Nothing emotional or partisan in this little far left gem.

BoogyMan
09-03-2008, 04:12 AM
Stop right now. Turn around, walk about 5 miles, turn right, walk another 2 miles and then open the door.

CONGRATULATIONS! Welcome to reality!

LOL, I sprayed Diet DP out my nose on this one! LOL

Mouth Full Of Teeth
09-03-2008, 04:18 AM
Stop right now. Turn around, walk about 5 miles, turn right, walk another 2 miles and then open the door.

CONGRATULATIONS! Welcome to reality!

No sh*t... Wow...all I can say is...wow...

NIOSA
09-03-2008, 03:13 PM
NIOSA,

Doesn't matter where she was born. Since Brazil is not a US state, she cannot be President.

:lmao:

apdst
09-03-2008, 05:16 PM
This isn't a thread about "The Deadliest Catch"?

brien
09-03-2008, 09:13 PM
And we stole the Louisiana Purchase from France so all of those states are voided as well. We stole the Southwest and California from Mexico so all of those states are voided as well. We stole Florida from the Seminoles so it is out as well. And we stole the rest of the states from the aboriginals here before the Europeans.

Call off the elections. There is no USA. Let's just give it all back and turn back the hands of time to 1500 and call it quits.

Next we will hear December wants the US and Russia to go to war over who owns Alaska so they can drill ANWR. This guy would be amusing if he weren't so predicible and boring.