Lies of Liberals

[Stoner]

Why do you suppose liberal followers continuously spread lies? You see this everywhere but for some reason the liberals are masters of it. Let's take a look at some of the lies liberals spread.

- Never found WMDs in Iraq.
- Iraq war was for oil.
- 9/11 was an inside job masterminded by the Bush administration.
- Bush withheld relief to Katrina victims.
- Bush is stupid.
- Bush is getting rich off his 'oil buddies.'

There's so many more but those seem to be the more popular lies. Now that McCain is about to be the next POTUS they're already running with more lies. McCain calling his wife a cunt is the most recent example.

The question I pose is why do they do it? Every example I listed above has been debunked and proven false. However that doesn't stop them from repeating them over and over again. Is this just hatred and jealousy for only being in office 8 out of the past 28 years or is it deeper? Perhaps psychological?

I may be many horrible things but I've never been a liar and would never purposely spread a lie. Why do liberals do it?

[Osborn F. Enready]

Stoner said:
Why do liberals do it?

Same reason republicans do....

Partisan agenda.....

However, you pointed out two things that were true:

1.Never found WMDs in Iraq
2.Bush is stupid. ;)

[lily]

Why do you suppose liberal followers continuously spread lies? You see this everywhere but for some reason the liberals are masters of it. Let's take a look at some of the lies liberals spread.

- Never found WMDs in Iraq.
- Iraq war was for oil.

Stoner.....I'm just going to do the first two, because I don't know if you are serious or not and I don't want to waste my time.



Never found WMDs in Iraq. (http://www.csm.ornl.gov/PR/PR2004/NS-07-12-04.html)



Iraq no oil (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece)

[Conservationist]

- 9/11 was an inside job masterminded by the Bush administration.
- Bush withheld relief to Katrina victims.


These are the really nutty ones.

[aaronssongs]

- Never found WMDs in Iraq.
- Iraq war was for oil.
- 9/11 was an inside job masterminded by the Bush administration.
- Bush withheld relief to Katrina victims.
- Bush is stupid.
- Bush is getting rich off his 'oil buddies.'

1. Absolutely true
2. Jury is out. Tenet reported as discussing the collateral damage of an attack on the US, as viable. Condie Rice ignored reports that bin Laden was planning an attack, and that it was imminent.
3. Ineptitude and incompetence and indifference led to the exacerbation of the disaster already in place.
4. Absolutely true
5. Ken Lay and Enron


Ask yourself why are conservatives in denial of the truth. Answer: Because it serves to "line their pockets", why else? Greed and avarice are the by words.

[Alonzo]

Stoner, the WMD one is also a lie told by Bush, McCain, Powell, Condi, Dick, Rove etc.

[micfranklin]

*sigh* same shit, different day.

- Never found WMDs in Iraq.

That's because there were none except some uranium, and uranium is not a weapon of mass destruction.

- Iraq war was for oil.

Probably but Iraq never was on the itinerary.

- 9/11 was an inside job masterminded by the Bush administration.

Now who says this? Point their quotes to all of us then.

- Bush withheld relief to Katrina victims.

I doubt that but I know his reaction time to the hurricane was equal to that of a snail stuck in molasses.

- Bush is stupid.

Not stupid just completely unable to use proper English and completely ignorant of the Constitution.

- Bush is getting rich off his 'oil buddies.'

Correction: the government is getting rich off his oil buddies.

[jafar00]

5. Ken Lay and Enron

Guess which building housed all the evidence in the Enron investigation before it collapsed in a pile of rubble? Hint, that will help you with #3 ;)

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

- Never found WMDs in Iraq.
- Iraq war was for oil.
- 9/11 was an inside job masterminded by the Bush administration.
- Bush withheld relief to Katrina victims.
- Bush is stupid.
- Bush is getting rich off his 'oil buddies.'

Where are the lies of liberals, again?

These are either not positions of liberals, or, in a bunch of cases, are true (or at least half true).

[ECW]

This thread is more accurately titled: The Hallucinogenic Fantasies of Rightwingers Out Of Touch With The Facts.

[micfranklin]

We should rename it: Lies About Lies of Liberals.

[Buck Laser]

We should rename it: Lies About Lies of Liberals.
Or maybe Stoner in Wonderland. :lmao:

[Stoner]

I believe the reason libbies spread lies (WMDs, Iraq for oil, etc...) is out of desperation and jealousy. They've only had the WH 8 out of 28 years (going on 8 out of 32). Instead of looking at themselves for the failure of their party they'd rather put blame on others (Bush stole the elction).

The WMDs are a perfect example. It's well documented we found WMDs but for some reason they put their fingers in their ears and go, "LA LA LA LA LA!!!" Every lie they've brought to the table has been debunked.

So why do they do it?

Besides desperation and jealousy they are hateful, partisan people. In their eyes every Republican is evil and nothing they do is right. They can't find any major wrong-doings so they resort to lies.

Libbies have deep issues that need to be worked out. Blaming others is not the ticket. When you have the track record the last 28 years in presidential elections that libbies have the best COA is to sit down and assess the issues. Accusing Republicans of lies stealing elections, not finding WMDs, etc... is not helping your cause. The American people aren't fooled by the false allegations. The only people you're deceiving is yourselves. It's why Clinton is the only POTUS you've had in the WH since Reagan.

Party rehabilitation starts with self responsibility. When you cease with the lies people take you more seriously. America will eventually learn to respect your party again.

Lying is not the way.

[Buck Laser]

Stoner, if the presence of WMDs is so well-documented, be a sport and post a reliable link or two. Betcha can't.

[piratemonkey]

The WMDs are a perfect example. It's well documented we found WMDs

Wow! This is the first I've heard of this! Really?!?

[BIrdzeye]

- Never found WMDs in Iraq.

If this is, indeed, a lie, then I'm sure you'd be happy to share the evidence to prove that we did indeed find WMDs in Iraq, right?

- Bush is stupid.

Now, you should know that this is a matter of opinion, so for someone to say that Bush is stupid cannot be construed as a lie.

[BIrdzeye]

Wow! This is the first I've heard of this! Really?!?

Yes, I was wondering the same thing!

[Buck Laser]

Hey guys, give poor Stoner a chance! He's been out of circulation for awhile, and he hasn't had a chance to catch up. I think he may still be reading the news releases from 2003. Me, I can hardly wait to see what he comes up with as proof of WMDs found in Iraq, And proof Bush isn't stupid is gonna have to be even MORE dramatic.

[Elrathin]

The WMDs are a perfect example. It's well documented we found WMDs but for some reason they put their fingers in their ears and go, "LA LA LA LA LA!!!" Every lie they've brought to the table has been debunked.


It was claimed Iraq had STOCKPILES of WMDs, this claim has NEVER been proven true.

I'm not sure what news you are reading, but I'd suggest a different source.

As to the Oil in Iraq, take a look at Dufar and the genocide involved there as proof we don't go into a country that doesn't benefit us. The only reason we intervened was because of the oil. Without the oil, we wouldn't have given two shakes of a piss about Iraq or Kuwait.

This kids is why you shouldn't smoke pot excessively.

[DamnYankee]

Why do you suppose liberal followers continuously spread lies? You see this everywhere but for some reason the liberals are masters of it. Let's take a look at some of the lies liberals spread.

- Never found WMDs in Iraq.
- Iraq war was for oil.
- 9/11 was an inside job masterminded by the Bush administration.
- Bush withheld relief to Katrina victims.
- Bush is stupid.
- Bush is getting rich off his 'oil buddies.'

More accurately named: "Lies of the kook fringe."

My personal favorite lie from the fringe is Bush killed millions and millions and millions and millions of people.

[Buck Laser]

More accurately named: "Lies of the kook fringe."

My personal favorite lie from the fringe is Bush killed millions and millions and millions and millions of people.
Who claimed that, DY?

[Stoner]

Back on topic, what is everyone elses opinion on why libbies spread lies? I've stated my opinions on their motives.

[Buck Laser]

Back on topic, what is everyone elses opinion on why libbies spread lies? I've stated my opinions on their motives.

Yes, you've stated your opinion. That's all. You haven't provided any kind of proof for any of your opinions. You want us to accept them as true because YOU said them?

[Elrathin]

Back on topic, what is everyone elses opinion on why libbies spread lies? I've stated my opinions on their motives.

Show me where there were stockpiles of WMDs found and that we didn't help Iraq because they had oil Stoner, otherwise it is just lies about liberals.

[BIrdzeye]

Back on topic, what is everyone elses opinion on why libbies spread lies? I've stated my opinions on their motives.

Well, first you'd have to prove your allegation that "libbies spread lies." Talking about motives can only take place if your allegation is proven to be true, which isn't the case.

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

I believe the reason libbies spread lies (WMDs, Iraq for oil, etc...) is out of desperation and jealousy.

<snip>

Libbies have deep issues that need to be worked out. Blaming others is not the ticket.

<snip>

Party rehabilitation starts with self responsibility. When you cease with the lies people take you more seriously. America will eventually learn to respect your party again.

Lying is not the way.

I just love the irony! Thanks for the laugh, Stoner.

[BIrdzeye]

I believe the reason libbies spread lies (WMDs, Iraq for oil, etc...) is out of desperation and jealousy. They've only had the WH 8 out of 28 years (going on 8 out of 32). Instead of looking at themselves for the failure of their party they'd rather put blame on others (Bush stole the elction).

The WMDs are a perfect example. It's well documented we found WMDs but for some reason they put their fingers in their ears and go, "LA LA LA LA LA!!!" Every lie they've brought to the table has been debunked.

So why do they do it?

Besides desperation and jealousy they are hateful, partisan people. In their eyes every Republican is evil and nothing they do is right. They can't find any major wrong-doings so they resort to lies.

Libbies have deep issues that need to be worked out. Blaming others is not the ticket. When you have the track record the last 28 years in presidential elections that libbies have the best COA is to sit down and assess the issues. Accusing Republicans of lies stealing elections, not finding WMDs, etc... is not helping your cause. The American people aren't fooled by the false allegations. The only people you're deceiving is yourselves. It's why Clinton is the only POTUS you've had in the WH since Reagan.

Party rehabilitation starts with self responsibility. When you cease with the lies people take you more seriously. America will eventually learn to respect your party again.

Lying is not the way.

This post is so full of bull*** and projection that I can't address the entire fantasy tale without making my reply tediously long, so I'll just focus on the last two paragraphs:

Party rehabilitation starts with self responsibility. When you cease with the lies people take you more seriously. America will eventually learn to respect your party again.

Lying is not the way.

Good advice to give the GOPers.

[Stoner]

More accurately named: "Lies of the kook fringe."

My personal favorite lie from the fringe is Bush killed millions and millions and millions and millions of people.

The list of lies the libs have started and spread are countless and too many to list in one thread. Besides, the thread isn't about what the lies are but why they make them up and spread them.

I stand by the theory that it's a combination of jealousy, hatred and bias feelings. They want the lies to be true so bad they make them up.

It's time the libbies take a look at themselves and fix the problem...inside out.

Lying is not the way. Besides, the only ones who believe the lies of the left are...the left.

Not very productive, huh? You're fooling no one but yourselves. Keep spreading the lies and you'll be 28 for 32 years staring at the WH from the outside. Americans don't like blatant lies.

[I Like Beer]

Why do you suppose liberal followers continuously spread lies? You see this everywhere but for some reason the liberals are masters of it. Let's take a look at some of the lies liberals spread.

- Bush is stupid.

Every example I listed above has been debunked and proven false. However that doesn't stop them from repeating them over and over again.


How is that a 'lie'? It's a subjective opinion and is comparative statement, he's stupid compared to what? The average American? A college professor? A house fly? If it has been debunked and proven false, I assume you will have no trouble showing us. :)

[I Like Beer]

Americans don't like blatant lies.

You mean lies like, "Mission Accomplished"?

[I Like Beer]

Stoner.....I'm just going to do the first two, because I don't know if you are serious or not and I don't want to waste my time.



Never found WMDs in Iraq. (http://www.csm.ornl.gov/PR/PR2004/NS-07-12-04.html)



Iraq no oil (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece)

LOL. [hand wringing]Why do Bush and Greenspan continue to lie? Is it jealousy, self-loathing? What can it be?[/hand wringing]

[Buck Laser]

No answers here. Why am I not surprised?

[azzig]

No answers here. Why am I not surprised? may have some answers here. It's "The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Middle East" by Martin Sieff. It starts with the history of the region way back to the Ottoman Empire, and explains WHY we cannot WIN using the current methods.:jammin:

[micfranklin]

I believe the reason libbies spread lies (WMDs, Iraq for oil, etc...) is out of desperation and jealousy. They've only had the WH 8 out of 28 years (going on 8 out of 32). Instead of looking at themselves for the failure of their party they'd rather put blame on others (Bush stole the elction).

The WMDs are a perfect example. It's well documented we found WMDs but for some reason they put their fingers in their ears and go, "LA LA LA LA LA!!!" Every lie they've brought to the table has been debunked.

So why do they do it?

Besides desperation and jealousy they are hateful, partisan people. In their eyes every Republican is evil and nothing they do is right. They can't find any major wrong-doings so they resort to lies.

Libbies have deep issues that need to be worked out. Blaming others is not the ticket. When you have the track record the last 28 years in presidential elections that libbies have the best COA is to sit down and assess the issues. Accusing Republicans of lies stealing elections, not finding WMDs, etc... is not helping your cause. The American people aren't fooled by the false allegations. The only people you're deceiving is yourselves. It's why Clinton is the only POTUS you've had in the WH since Reagan.

Party rehabilitation starts with self responsibility. When you cease with the lies people take you more seriously. America will eventually learn to respect your party again.

Lying is not the way.

No one is lying about anything, it's not our fault the current administration can't do shit right, it's not our fault Bush doesn't know his geography, otherwise we'd never have gone to Iraq.

If you think they found some WMDs, show us all.

[Angel Of Mercy]

No answers here. Why am I not surprised?

Hey, Buck! LTNS. Hope you've been well...

No, they can't give you any answers! Didn't you get the memo that truth has a well-documented liberal bias? I mean, can you trust ANYTHING that comes from someone who actually believes in lunacy like "Trickle-Down Economics?"

(Yes, my friend, we can...and we WILL.)

[apdst]

Osborn say:2.Bush is stupid.

And, how many degrees do you currently have hanging on the wall? Of those degrees, how many are from Yale?

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

And, how many degrees do you currently have hanging on the wall? Of those degrees, how many are from Yale?

You obviously have never been to college if you believe that everyone that goes to a college, even a prestigious college such as Yale, is automatically intelligent because they go to that school...

[Stoner]

And, how many degrees do you currently have hanging on the wall? Of those degrees, how many are from Yale?

LOL. Right on, brother.

But watch...there will be a left-winger who will repeat the libbie rhetoric, "Just because you went to Yale doesn't mean you're smart."

Watch.

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

And I love the neo-con rhetoric that if one goes to Yale, one has to be smart... But, you just watch what those same neo-cons would say if they talk about the liberal professors that teach at those schools....:lmao:

[Buck Laser]

I knew Stoner wasn't gonna be able to come up with a single bit of supporting evidence. That's just par for the course. He still won't have any real evidence tomorrow.

Then there's apdst and his "how many Yale degrees?" remark to Os--I'll bet apdst doesn't know how many Yale degrees Bush has. But as the certified owner of a couple of degrees, I know very well that college degrees don't mean diddly shit in deciding whether someone is bright or stupid.

If there's anyone here who actually thinks Bush is intelligent, I have some investment opportunities I'd like to discuss with you. Please contact me via PM to save yourself later embarrassment.

[micfranklin]

Can someone explain to me how our not finding WMDs has done for the world?

[ECW]

I knew Stoner wasn't gonna be able to come up with a single bit of supporting evidence. That's just par for the course. He still won't have any real evidence tomorrow.

Then there's apdst and his "how many Yale degrees?" remark to Os--I'll bet apdst doesn't know how many Yale degrees Bush has. But as the certified owner of a couple of degrees, I know very well that college degrees don't mean diddly shit in deciding whether someone is bright or stupid.

If there's anyone here who actually thinks Bush is intelligent, I have some investment opportunities I'd like to discuss with you. Please contact me via PM to save yourself later embarrassment.

It won't be last time Stoner failed to show proof for as assertion he's made. I've been waiting a year and a half for proof from him and still... nothing.

[Trish]

You obviously have never been to college if you believe that everyone that goes to a college, even a prestigious college such as Yale, is automatically intelligent because they go to that school...

How about Harvard? :innocent:

[Buck Laser]

How about Harvard? :innocent:

Yup. He got an MBA from Harvard. It still didn't keep him from being a total failure in business. The topic at hand is "lies of liberals," one of which Stoner says is that we say Bush is stupid.

So I'll say it out loud:
Bush is one stupid mofo!

There. I can say it all day, and it's still true. And you know it.

[ECW]

And Obama has the help of some leading Democratic strategists. He didn't go out and beat the bushes for people that had NO past political experience. He found Democrats with campaign experience. "IF" he is elected President, he'll also surround himself with advisors with previous political experience - not newcomers. The only difference is that his set of advisors etc will have a "D" after their name instead of a "R." O

But the point was how stupid Bush is. You failed to convince me otherwise with your rant about Obama.

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

How about Harvard? :innocent:

Harvard, Yale, Stanford...makes no difference.

[Trish]

Yup. He got an MBA from Harvard. It still didn't keep him from being a total failure in business. The topic at hand is "lies of liberals," one of which Stoner says is that we say Bush is stupid.

So I'll say it out loud:
Bush is one stupid mofo!

There. I can say it all day, and it's still true. And you know it.

He was smart enough to figure out how to be elected President twice - that's certainly more than any of we brilliant forum posters have accomplished. He may not be the brightest bulb on the string, but he's not the dimmest either.

And btw - Obama went to Harvard too.

[AnnEsthesia]

Do Bush got elected all by himself? No one helped him?

[BoogyMan]

Do Bush got elected all by himself? No one helped him?

This is a line of comments calling Bush stupid. Bwahahahahahahaha

Harvard doesn't give away academic credentials, if you get an MBA from Harvard, you have some smarts.

[BIrdzeye]

I didn't go to Harvard, but I went to a well respected university whose admissions office is a bit choosy.

I can assure you that amongst all those supposedly bright students, there were a few whose high IQs still didn't keep them from being seriously stupid mofos.

[ECW]

He was smart enough to figure out how to be elected President twice - that's certainly more than any of we brilliant forum posters have accomplished. He may not be the brightest bulb on the string, but he's not the dimmest either.

And btw - Obama went to Harvard too.

Karl Rove got Bush elected twice. Bush was at least smart enough to know that the only way a republican could win was by scraping the bottom of the barrel and Karl Rove is perfect for that. Trouble is after the election Bush stayed at the bottom of the barrel. Still there now. Not smart enough to get himself out now that Rove is gone.

[Trish]

Do Bush got elected all by himself? No one helped him?

Of course he had help. And "IF" Obama gets elected it will be because HE had help as well. NO president has been elected solely on his own efforts. They have all had help - mainly the help of those voting for them.

[Trish]

Karl Rove got Bush elected twice. Bush was at least smart enough to know that the only way a republican could win was by scraping the bottom of the barrel and Karl Rove is perfect for that. Trouble is after the election Bush stayed at the bottom of the barrel. Still there now. Not smart enough to get himself out now that Rove is gone.

And Obama has the help of some leading Democratic strategists. He didn't go out and beat the bushes for people that had NO past political experience. He found Democrats with campaign experience. "IF" he is elected President, he'll also surround himself with advisors with previous political experience - not newcomers. The only difference is that his set of advisors etc will have a "D" after their name instead of a "R." O

[Trish]

I can assure you that amongst all those supposedly bright students, there were a few whose high IQs still didn't keep them from being seriously stupid mofos.

I can agree with you there! My grandmother called those type of people "educated fools who couldn't pour pee out of a boot with the instructions on the heel." No amount of intelligence or education is a substitute for just plain common sense.

[AnnEsthesia]

This is a line of comments calling Bush stupid. Bwahahahahahahaha

Harvard doesn't give away academic credentials, if you get an MBA from Harvard, you have some smarts.

Yea, wow. I mistyped. Gee, yep. Wow, glad to see you are not above picking the small nits.

I was going to say "Do you think" and changed my mind. I was in a hurry to leave this morning. So sorry. Oh, and kiss my posterior. Hey look! I spelled it right!

[BoogyMan]

Yea, wow. I mistyped. Gee, yep. Wow, glad to see you are not above picking the small nits.

You have to admit, that was pretty funny. :D

I was going to say "Do you think" and changed my mind. I was in a hurry to leave this morning. So sorry. Oh, and kiss my posterior. Hey look! I spelled it right!

Thanks for the high level of debate and rhetorical reprise.

All this still changes nothing with regard to the FACT that you don't become a harvard MBA grad if you are stupid.

[AnnEsthesia]

One can be book smart and still be dumb as nails. Of course, if I remember correctly, his grades were not all that great. I am sure "My Pet Goat" was on his reading list... to bad "the google" was not available back then.

And I was just responding to your high level of debate. If you do not wish the level to decline, then don't lower it yourself.

[preservanation]

Ooooo, are we discussing Bush's education?
Just think, if we had elected Kerry, we would have a president even Stupider than Bush.
Kerry had a lower GPA than Bush at Yale.
Forgot about that didn't you?

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

Ooooo, are we discussing Bush's education?
Just think, if we had elected Kerry, we would have a president even Stupider than Bush.
Kerry had a lower GPA than Bush at Yale.
Forgot about that didn't you?

And what was McCain's GPA?

[BIrdzeye]

Ooooo, are we discussing Bush's education?
Just think, if we had elected Kerry, we would have a president even Stupider than Bush.
Kerry had a lower GPA than Bush at Yale.
Forgot about that didn't you?

What does GPA have to do with smarts? Smart people who don't study are likely to have lower GPAs, while not so smart people who put their noses to the books are likely to have higher ones.

[preservanation]

What does GPA have to do with smarts? Smart people who don't study are likely to have lower GPAs, while not so smart people who put their noses to the books are likely to have higher ones.I'll keep that in mind when the left brings up Mccain's academic achievements...Hooooo Boy!

[bishop]

i do have bias when it comes to peoples' GPA's, especially since i earned suma cum laude for my bachelor's and cum laude for my master's.. :)

higher GPA doesn't instantly make you smarter than lower performers, but on average i'd say that it does. could even hold true for kerry, since only a completely inept retard could fail to beat bush in 2004.

[Angel Of Mercy]

higher GPA doesn't instantly make you smarter than lower performers, but on average i'd say that it does. could even hold true for kerry, since only a completely inept retard could fail to beat bush in 2004.

I'll not defend the errors of the Kerry campaign...and there were many...but he wasn't beaten by just that congenital idiot in the Oval Offive now. He was beaten by a dedicated GOP effort to disenfranchise Democratic-leaning voters (http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_republican_war_on_voting) as well as fund-raising irregularities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Noe) and the specific efforts (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen) of Ohio Secretary of State, and co-chair of the Bush re-election campaign in that state, Kenneth Blackwell.

Yeah, he rolled over...but he was up against the best that those unclean Republicans could muster, including no small effort on the part of Turdblossom Rove.

And I won't even go into the litany of problems with electronic voting...but the head of Diebold DID promise to "deliver Ohio."

[BIrdzeye]

I'll keep that in mind when the left brings up Mccain's academic achievements...Hooooo Boy!

You go right ahead. I haven't been making an issue of McCain's academic status in college, since I was not a particularly good student myself in my college years.

[Mouth Full Of Teeth]

I'll keep that in mind when the left brings up Mccain's academic achievements...Hooooo Boy!

Do that...but try to be consistent. If you are going to argue that Bush is smarter than Kerry because Bush got better grades than Kerry, then Obama is a genius and McCain is a freaking retard...

If you are going to argue that grades don't matter, then Bush's Harvard degree isn't a measure of his intelligence.

Just please...make up your mind.

[Buck Laser]

Yup. He got an MBA from Harvard. It still didn't keep him from being a total failure in business. The topic at hand is "lies of liberals," one of which Stoner says is that we say Bush is stupid.

So I'll say it out loud:
Bush is one stupid mofo!

There. I can say it all day, and it's still true. And you know it.
He was smart enough to figure out how to be elected President twice - that's certainly more than any of we brilliant forum posters have accomplished. He may not be the brightest bulb on the string, but he's not the dimmest either.

And btw - Obama went to Harvard too.
Trish, you really need to work on them reading skills, girlie. I mentioned Bush's MBA in my first sentence.

I see no evidence that Bush was smart enough to get elected president. Karl Rove, on the other hand, is smart (and mean) enough to get him elected. And if I remember correctly, Rove doesn't have a degree. It seems to be characteristic of conservatives like you to equate degrees with intelligence, but there's just not that much correlation.

[Trish]

Trish, you really need to work on them reading skills, girlie. I mentioned Bush's MBA in my first sentence.

I see no evidence that Bush was smart enough to get elected president. Karl Rove, on the other hand, is smart (and mean) enough to get him elected. And if I remember correctly, Rove doesn't have a degree. It seems to be characteristic of conservatives like you to equate degrees with intelligence, but there's just not that much correlation.

Uhhhhhh Buck, you need to work on those comprehension skills, sonny. My question "How about Harvard" was geared to OBAMA - not Bush.

And I'm well aware of the lack of correlation between having a degree or degrees and intelligence. How many degrees did you say you had?

[Angel Of Mercy]

Harvard doesn't give away academic credentials, if you get an MBA from Harvard, you have some smarts.

Or you have to have a very wealthy family to endow a chair at the university...or otherwise contribute monetarily. I'd bet on the bucks...

He can't even speak English, for crying in church...or do you "put food on YOUR family," too?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h110/landofshangrila/likearock-1.jpg

[ECW]

Nothing stopped him from paying someone to take those tests for him. If he has an MBA from Harvard he forgot everything he ever learned there. The last eight years shows that.

[AlanC]

Nothing stopped him from paying someone to take those tests for him. If he has an MBA from Harvard he forgot everything he ever learned there. The last eight years shows that.

Now you're getting him confused with Teddy Kennedy. He's the one kicked out for having someone take a test for him.

[AlanC]

Nothing stopped him from paying someone to take those tests for him. If he has an MBA from Harvard he forgot everything he ever learned there. The last eight years shows that.

Now you're getting him confused with Teddy Kennedy. He's the one kicked out for having someone take a test for him.

[ECW]

Bush just didn't get caught at it. I would not put it past him.

[BoogyMan]

Nothing stopped him from paying someone to take those tests for him. If he has an MBA from Harvard he forgot everything he ever learned there. The last eight years shows that.

Proof ECW. That stuff you always claim to provide. Lets see some. :shock:

[ECW]

Nothing stopped him from paying someone to take those tests for him. If he has an MBA from Harvard he forgot everything he ever learned there. The last eight years shows that.Proof ECW. That stuff you always claim to provide. Lets see some. :shock:

I was hoping you would be the one to jump on the bait here...

It is my esteemed opinion that Bush did this because nothing else could explain how he managed to get thru school and then fail to use the supposed knowledge in his career as a governor and then a failed president. Bush hired someone to take his tests so he could get his degree.

Now if your opinion qualifies you to rant and argue for pages and days on end, then so does mine. I'll ignore your request for proof just like you always ignore mine.