Uh....why should we drill again?

[tecoyah]

It's about freakin' time...I heard about this 5 yrs ago, and figured we would do what we always do....and shelve it:

U.S. green lights 'anything into oil'
Defense Department OKs facilities turning natural produce into energy
Posted: August 13, 2008
8:45 pm Eastern

Naturally occurring bacteria used to convert biomass into hydrocarbons.

A Georgia company looking to solve America's energy problem has finally teamed up with the federal government, hoping to make millions of barrels of oil every day from virtually anything that grows out of the Earth.

Bell Bio-Energy, Inc. says it has reached an agreement with the U.S. Defense Department to build seven test production plants, mostly on military bases, to quickly turn naturally grown material into fuel.

"What this means is that with the seven pilot plants – the military likes to refer to them as demonstrations – with those being built … it gives us the real-time engineering data that we need to finish the designs for a full-scale production facility," J.C. Bell, the man behind the project, told WND today.

"In 18 months or so, we will start manufacturing oil directly from waste and we will build up to about 500,000 barrels a day within two years. In another six months, we'll reach a million barrels a day."

As the United States now imports about 13 million barrels of oil a day, the only obstacle then to total energy independence from foreign sources will be the money needed to develop the processing plants, he said.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72275

This is the logical next step:

Unlike other solid-to-liquid-fuel processes such as cornstarch into ethanol, this one will accept almost any carbon-based feedstock. If a 175-pound man fell into one end , he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water. While no one plans to put people into a thermal depolymerization machine, an intimate human creation could become a prime feedstock. "There is no reason why we can't turn sewage, including human excrement, into a glorious oil," says engineer Terry Adams, a project consultant. So the city of Philadelphia is in discussion with Changing World Technologies to begin doing exactly that.

http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/2003/Anything-Into-Oil1may03.htm

[DANG]

Every living thing is storing sunlight. Oil reserves are primarily dense forestry that got encapsulated (in ash most likely) before it had a chance to dry up. It became stored sunlight. Its vegetation, not "dinosaur juice" (at least not most of it)

Read the first chapter of:
"The last hours of ancient sunlight"

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5563/lasthoursnb0.jpg

Ancient Sunlight (in the title) is of course, stored sunlight in the form of oil and coal.

Here, I found some exerpts from the authors website (http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=200&Itemid=80):
The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: We're Made Out of Ancient Sunlight
Excerpt from the book.

We’re Made Out Of Sunlight
"The Sun, the hearth of affection and life, pours burning love on the delighted earth."
—Arthur Rimbaud (1854–1891)

In a very real sense, we’re all made out of sunlight. Sunlight radiating heat, visible light, and ultraviolet light is the source of virtually all life on Earth.

Everything you see alive around you is there because a plant somewhere was able to capture sunlight and store it.

All animals live from these plants, whether directly (as with herbivores) or indirectly (as with carnivores, which eat the herbivores). This is true of mammals, insects, birds, amphibians, reptiles, bacteria...everything living. Every life form on the surface of this planet is here because a plant was able to gather sunlight and store it, and something else was able to eat that plant and take that sunlight-energy in to power its body.[1]

In this way, the abundance or lack of abundance of our human food supply was, until the past few hundred years, largely determined by how much sunlight hit the ground. And for all non-human life forms on the planet, this is still the case—you can see that many of the areas around the equator that are bathed in sunlight are filled with plant and animal life, whereas in the relatively sun-starved polar regions there are far fewer living creatures and less diversity among them.

The plant kingdom’s method of sunlight storage is quite straightforward. Our atmosphere has billions of tons of carbon in it, most in the form of the gas carbon dioxide, or CO2. Plants “inhale” this CO2, and use the energy of sunlight to drive a chemical reaction in their leaves called photosynthesis, which breaks the two atoms of oxygen free from the carbon, producing free carbon (C) and oxygen (O2). The carbon is then used by the plant to manufacture carbohydrates like cellulose and virtually all other plant matter—roots, stems, leaves, fruits, and nuts—and the oxygen is “exhaled” as a waste gas by the plant.Many people I’ve met believe that plants are made up of soil—that the tree outside your house, for example, is mostly made from the soil in which it grew.

That’s a common mistake, however—that tree is mostly made up of one of the gasses in our air (carbon dioxide) and water (hydrogen and oxygen).Plant leaves capture sunlight and use that energy to extract carbon as carbon dioxide from the air, combine it with oxygen and hydrogen from water, to form sugars and other complex carbohydrates (carbohydrates are also made of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen) such as the cellulose which makes up most of the roots, leaves, and trunk.

When you burn wood, the “sunlight energy” is released in the form of light and heat (from the fire). Most of the carbon in the wood reverses the photosynthesis.The small pile of ash you’re left with is all the minerals the huge tree had taken from the soil.

Everything else was gas from the air: carbon, hydrogen and oxygen.Animals, including humans, cannot create tissues directly from sunlight and air, as plants can. Thus the human population of the planet from the beginning of our history was limited by the amount of readily-available plant food (and animals-that-eat-plants food). Because of this, from the dawn of humanity (estimated at 200,000 years ago) until about 40,000 years ago, the entire world probably never held more than about five million human inhabitants. That’s fewer people worldwide than Detroit has today.I suspect the reason for this low global census is that people in that time ate only wild-growing food.

If sunlight fell on 100 acres of wildlands producing enough food to feed ten people—through edible fruits, vegetables, seeds and wild animals which ate the plants—then the population density of that forest would stabilize at that level. Studies of all kinds of animal populations show that mammals—including humans—become less fertile, and death rates increase, when there is not enough food to sustain a local population. This is nature’s population control system for every animal species: population is limited to what the local plant/food supply can feed.Similarly, people’s clothing and shelter back then were made out of plants and animal skins which themselves came to life because of “current sunlight,” the sunlight which fell on the ground over the few years of their lives. We used the skins of animals and trees (things that had consumed sunlight in recent years) to construct clothing and housing. All these are made from relatively current sunlight.

Extracting more sunlight—from other animals
Something important happened, sometime around 40,000 years ago: humans figured out a way to change the patterns of nature so we could get more sunlight/food than other species did. Our food supply had been limited to those plants and animals that were growing naturally around us. The human food supply was determined by how many deer or rabbits the local forest could support, or the number of edible plants that could be found or grown in good soil.

But in areas where the soil was too poor for farming or forest, supporting only scrub brush and grasses, humans discovered that ruminant (grazing) animals like goats, sheep, and cows could eat those plants that we couldn’t, and could therefore convert the daily sunlight captured by the scrub and wild plants on that “useless” land into animal flesh, which we could eat. So if we could increase the number of the ruminant animals through herding and domestication, then we could eat more of the recent sunlight they were consuming as grasses and plants which were previously useless to humans.This provided to our ancestors more usable energy, both as work animals and as food animals.

And so domestication and herding were born, for which we can find archeological evidence going back over 40,000 years. These practices flourished and spread because they let us eat more of the recent years’ sunlight from a given area of land by using animals as intermediaries.

Extracting more sunlight—from the land
About this same time in history, we also figured out that we could replace inedible forests with edible crops.

Instead of having a plot of land produce only enough food to feed ten people, that same land could now be worked to feed a hundred. The beginning of agriculture is referred to as the Agricultural Revolution, and it began to gather momentum about 10,000 years ago.

Because we had discovered and begun to use these two methods (herding and agriculture) to more efficiently convert the sun’s energy into human food, our food supply grew. Following the basic laws of nature, because there was more food, there could be more humans, and the human population started growing faster.Within a few thousand years of that time, we also discovered how to extract mineral ores from the Earth, to smelt pure metals from them, and to build tools from these metals. These tools, such as plows and scythes, made us much more productive farmers, so the period from 8,000 bc until around the time of Christ saw the human population of the world increase from five million people to 250 million people, a number just a bit smaller than the current population of the United States.

more...... (http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=200&Itemid=80)Fascinating stuff.

[DANG]

From your articleBell Bio-Energy, Inc. says it has reached an agreement with the U.S. Defense Department to build seven test production plants, mostly on military bases, to quickly turn naturally grown material into fuel.Why do I get a picture of skip loaders stuffing casualties of war into that machine? Offense Contractors have found a way to completely destroy war crime evidence.

"Genocide? What genocide? I dont see no steenking genocide."

I wonder if this is what hitler was doing?
The bush family would authorize something like this.....Prescott Bush was party to it. He financed Hitler and the USA during the war. What a clan!

[tecoyah]

Wow....just...uh....WOW!


Dude....you gotta have like 15 pounds of Reynolds Wrap on that Noggin.

[DANG]

You obviously trust who you ought to question.

Watch this. This guy has some valid questions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gD25lwjAk

Heard of REX 84?

Railroads run past military bases. Remember the holocaust? The trains. The bodies?

Google REX 84. Its a reality.

Edit to add:
If they have nothing to hide.....
why do they hide EVERYTHING?

[tecoyah]

yeah...........OK..............what you said.





































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[NIOSA]

You obviously trust who you ought to question.

Watch this. This guy has some valid questions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gD25lwjAk

Heard of REX 84?

Railroads run past military bases. Remember the holocaust? The trains. The bodies?

Google REX 84. Its a reality.

Edit to add:
If they have nothing to hide.....
why do they hide EVERYTHING?

How is REX 84 a reality? While those trains could be used for "roundding up Americans", they are used for supplies as well.
I'm not saying that it could not happen, in fact, if we get a marxist/terrorist sympathizing person in the White House, I would expect it to happen.
I believe that trying to do away with the 2nd amendment is a part of that plan.

[xLIBREx]

Hmmm, what will be the cost of producing this oil? How much energy will be needed to produce this oil and where will that energy come from? I also notice they use the words "hoping to" meaning this is by no means certain to happen so the OP asking "why we should drill is the old "liberals putting all their eggs in one basket" syndrome.

But lets look at the reality of the article. It says the company has "teamed up with the government." Translation; they are a private enterprise which is now being subsidized by the United States taxpayer. They have just received a huge handout.

If this technology was so close to reality, why would there be a need for this massive infusion of taxpayer cash? If they could make oil cheaply they could make it right now and sell it on the world market (considering it was truly fungible oil) and finance themselves. So when they say the only obstacle would be the money needed to build the plants, that is an automatic red flag to any rational person. Why would there be trouble to get investors to build a plant where you are guaranteed to sell every drop of product you can produce as fast as you can produce it?

These claims come all the time and the government, in it's constant need to do something in an attempt to prove it's worth, jumps on board much too easily and leads us down the wrong path by interfering with the free-market. Ethanol was also supposed to be a savior and we have seen how that worked out.

So, the logical answer is you take advantage of the cheapest forms of energy right now so your economy doesn't shut down and once a competing technology becomes truly viable and can undercut naturally occurring oil's price it will have a competitive advantage in the free market and supplant oil which comes out of the ground. Don't forget, if it's truly oil then its fungible.

So again, stop living in the liberal ether and try living in the real world.

[apdst]

Uh....why should we drill again?

Why? Because drilling now, will solve the problems, now. This scheme will take 20 years to mature, and that's if it even works.