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lily
08-13-2008, 02:55 AM
Thank you Mr. President. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26162435/)

Budget deficit soars to $102.8 billion in July
Deficit is nearly triple the $36.4 billion deficit recorded a year ago




updated 3:42 p.m. ET, Tues., Aug. 12, 2008
WASHINGTON - The federal budget deficit soared in July, pushed higher by
economic stimulus payments and $15 billion in outlays to protect depositors
at failed banks.

The Treasury Department reported that the deficit for July totaled $102.8
billion, nearly triple the $36.4 billion deficit recorded in July 2007.

The deficit outstripped the $97 billion gap that Wall Street economists had
been expecting for July.




The Treasury said outlays were pushed up by $15 billion because of payments
the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. made to depositors at failed banks. The
Treasury report did not identify the banks but federal regulators seized the
assets of California-based IndyMac Bank, the largest regulated thrift to
fail in U.S. history.

The FDIC is expected to be successful in recovering much of its outlays for
failed banks, in part by selling the assets of seized institutions. The FDIC
has also raised the possibility that it will increase insurance premiums on
healthy banks to cover the cost of what are expected to be rising bank
failures as the current credit crisis unfolds.

Besides the payouts by the FDIC, government outlays were increased by the
final bulk mailings of government stimulus payments in July. The July
deficit also looked worse than the July 2007 deficit because last year's
figure was artificially deflated by timing issues that shifted about $19
billion in normal outlays into the prior month.

So far this year, the budget deficit totals $371.4 billion, more than double
last year's deficit through the same time period of $157.4 billion.

The Bush administration recently revised its forecast for this year's
deficit, lowering it from an estimate of $410 billion, down to $389 billion.
However, the Congressional Budget Office is more pessimistic, projecting the
deficit for this year will total $400 billion when the current budget year
wraps up on Sept. 30.

For the 2009 budget year, which begins Oct. 1, the administration is now
projecting a deficit of $482 billion, which would be the highest in dollar
terms in history, surpassing the old mark of $413 billion set in 2004.

Through July, government revenues total $2.094 trillion, down 1 percent from
the same period a year ago. Revenues have been weaker this year, reflecting
the sharp slowdown in the overall economy.

Government spending so far this budget year totals $2.466 trillion, 8.5
percent higher than a year ago. That's in part due to the $168 billion
stimulus package Congress passed at the beginning of the year in an effort
to keep the country out of a deep recession and because of increased
spending for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

xLIBREx
08-13-2008, 02:56 AM
Yup, all of Bush's socialism is killing us.

mj278
08-13-2008, 03:01 AM
Yup, all of Bush's socialism is killing us.

I was going to say the same thing.

lily
08-13-2008, 04:44 AM
Hmmm......how come when everything is rosey, then Bush gets the credit, but when it's in the crapper, it's not his fault?

xLIBREx
08-13-2008, 04:50 AM
Hmmm......how come when everything is rosey, then Bush gets the credit, but when it's in the crapper, it's not his fault?

Who said it wasn't his fault? He ran as a conservative, but ended up being a socialist.

micfranklin
08-13-2008, 05:20 AM
It's all in the name of progress.

NoMoreDems-Reps
08-13-2008, 08:14 AM
It's simple! If you support a corrupt and usless government that's what
kind of government you get!! REPS&DEMS have to agree to alow things
(good or Bad ) to happen!

Record debt, bailout after bailout... They decide we get stuck with the bill !!!!

If you keep voting them (REPS&DEMS)back in power you have no right to bitch!!!!!
Vote for Nader ! (Baldwin, Barr, or Paul)

Mouth Full Of Teeth
08-13-2008, 11:57 AM
Don't you guys know that Bush is keeping us safe from terrorists? We have to pay a price and this is it!

Where do you all think the cost of the wars is coming from?

micfranklin
08-13-2008, 01:28 PM
And how many people do you think will end up homeless paying off this shit?

suedanim
08-13-2008, 04:41 PM
Don't you guys know that Bush is keeping us safe from terrorists? We have to pay a price and this is it!

Where do you all think the cost of the wars is coming from?

Borrow and spend, borrow and spend. The Republican way.

Theres not a damn thing socialist about George Bush. Thats nothing but irresponsible hype. The deficit comes from one thing... the war machine.



For the 2009 budget year, which begins Oct. 1, the administration is now
projecting a deficit of $482 billion, which would be the highest in dollar
terms in history, surpassing the old mark of $413 billion set in 2004.


Gee whillikers Beav... the new CIC inherits a shitload deficit. Ya think we can get away from blaming him if he's a Democrat??? SUUURRRE :madlaugh:

Through July, government revenues total $2.094 trillion, down 1 percent from
the same period a year ago. Revenues have been weaker this year, reflecting
the sharp slowdown in the overall economy.

Translation... We're in a fuckn recession thanks to the brilliant leadership in the WH.

Government spending so far this budget year totals $2.466 trillion, 8.5 percent higher than a year ago. That's in part due to the $168 billion stimulus package Congress passed at the beginning of the year in an effort to keep the country out of a deep recession and because of increased spending for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As stated... war is expensive. You conservatives, Republicans, whatever else you call yourselves, want war? Find a way to pay for it beside off the backs of the middle class quickly becoming the underclass thanks to Republicans.

mj278
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
Borrow and spend, borrow and spend. The Republican way.

Theres not a damn thing socialist about George Bush. Thats nothing but irresponsible hype. The deficit comes from one thing... the war machine.

Even without the war, we would still have a huge deficit. Non defense spending was also increased.

The House and Congress overall control how the money is spent, and both parties are guilty here. Both sides voted to approve defense spending. Our Congress has no problems passing budgets with thousands of earmarks that benefit them. Meanwhile, the interest we pay on our money costs us more than the war in Iraq.

As of the middle of last year, we spent 600 billion for the so called war on terror. So it is obvious that the war is not the sole reason for our problems. If you add the unfunded entitlement programs, the numbers are 53 trillion.

Here is another interesting read (http://www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2008/fs080528.cfm).

While the issues regarding Social Security reform are complex, it is at least possible to imagine how Congress might find, within a $14 trillion economy, ways to wrestle with a $13 trillion unfunded liability. The bad news is that Social Security is the lesser of our entitlement worries. It is but the tip of the unfunded liability iceberg. The much bigger concern is Medicare, a program established in 1965, the same prosperous year that Bill Martin cautioned his Columbia University audience to be wary of complacency and storms on the horizon.

Medicare was a pay-as-you-go program from the very beginning, despite warnings from some congressional leaders—Wilbur Mills was the most credible of them before he succumbed to the pay-as-you-go wiles of Fanne Foxe, the Argentine Firecracker—who foresaw some of the long-term fiscal issues such a financing system could pose. Unfortunately, they were right.



Our national debt has been on the incline since 1929, and it isn't going down any time soon. visit (http://home.att.net/~mwhodges/debt.htm).


As stated... war is expensive. You conservatives, Republicans, whatever else you call yourselves, want war? Find a way to pay for it beside off the backs of the middle class quickly becoming the underclass thanks to Republicans.

This should also apply to all of the entitlement programs we have.