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NIOSA
07-11-2008, 11:26 PM
Charles Rangle, chairman of the house ways & means committee (no shy violet position, that) has 4, count them, FOUR, rent stabalized apartments in Harlem. He has said there's nothing illegal about it. Again, not being illegal doesn't mean it's right.
With so many poor people looking for affordable apartments, homes, this powerful politician has 4 of them.
Way to go Charlie! :unreal:
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/16855028/detail.html
IndieVisible
07-12-2008, 01:13 AM
Charles Rangle, chairman of the house ways & means committee (no shy violet position, that) has 4, count them, FOUR, rent stabalized apartments in Harlem. He has said there's nothing illegal about it. Again, not being illegal doesn't mean it's right.
With so many poor people looking for affordable apartments, homes, this powerful politician has 4 of them.
Way to go Charlie! :unreal:
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/16855028/detail.html
You think we need more regulations here or you think we have too many?
With so many poor people looking for affordable apartments, homes, this powerful politician has 4 of them.
Way to go Charlie! :unreal:
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/16855028/detail.html
What are you suggesting............that he gives one to a homeless person, or should we turn to Communism........it's not clear.
NIOSA
07-12-2008, 02:35 AM
You think we need more regulations here or you think we have too many?
What does that have to do with the OP?
NIOSA
07-12-2008, 02:36 AM
What are you suggesting............that he gives one to a homeless person, or should we turn to Communism........it's not clear.
How about the same fair shake that a US Congressman gets?
IndieVisible
07-12-2008, 03:30 AM
How about the same fair shake that a US Congressman gets?
but would it still be capitalism then if we were all the same?
How about the same fair shake that a US Congressman gets?
I'm still lost. He lived in the aprtment long enough to get the deal, others didn't. Sounds like you want the Communist system?
Liberals ARE Communists... at least according to the current forum "wisdom" being spread by the rightwingers here.
AlanC
07-12-2008, 06:14 PM
Liberals ARE Communists... at least according to the current forum "wisdom" being spread by the rightwingers here.
Well not communists per se.... perhaps just socialists with some communistic leanings? :lmao:
Yep, between all us Hitlerites and you Stalinists, we have 20th century evil pretty well covered, don't we.
But how come the Libertarians get off scott free? I think we should start equating them with the anarchists, whether it fits or not. Just so they won't feel left out of the political sliming game. :innocent:
NIOSA
07-12-2008, 06:24 PM
but would it still be capitalism then if we were all the same?
I'm not talking about all being the same. NY has a certain amout of rent controlled properties, (which I actually don't think there should be any, but that's beside the point) why should one person, especially a powerful politician, get 4?
NIOSA
07-12-2008, 06:26 PM
I'm still lost. He lived in the aprtment long enough to get the deal, others didn't. Sounds like you want the Communist system?
What??? Care to explain that & how Rangle getting four of these properties isn't like communism? The powerful get the goods while the peons suck hind tit?
heyjude
07-12-2008, 06:41 PM
I don't think Rangle did anything wrong. He took advantage of an opportunity that came up. Most people would. Is someone trying to suggest that the poor would be helped if Rangle moved? I don't think so. The next renter would pay a lot more. And no poor person could afford to live there.
Why don't we discuss Obama buying a $400,000 house for $150,000. That was legal too. Something I have found in my life is that the rich rarely pay full price for anything. Only the middle class does. I wouldn't mind that so much if the rich didn't try to make us think that they worked their butts off for everything they have.
NIOSA
07-12-2008, 08:43 PM
I don't think Rangle did anything wrong. He took advantage of an opportunity that came up. Most people would. Is someone trying to suggest that the poor would be helped if Rangle moved? I don't think so. The next renter would pay a lot more. And no poor person could afford to live there.
Why don't we discuss Obama buying a $400,000 house for $150,000. That was legal too. Something I have found in my life is that the rich rarely pay full price for anything. Only the middle class does. I wouldn't mind that so much if the rich didn't try to make us think that they worked their butts off for everything they have.
They're all hypocrites. However, a
"normal" person would not get a deal like Charlie did.
Obamas $400,000 home? I believe that homes was over a million.
What??? Care to explain that & how Rangle getting four of these properties isn't like communism? The powerful get the goods while the peons suck hind tit?
What you are proposing is Communism.....not what Rangle did. If you have a problem with what he did, then I guess you should take it up with either the zoning board or the landoards of his building.
According to your article, he lived there for over 20 years.
Regulations governing the city's 1 million rent-stabilized apartments allow a tenant to live in an apartment at below-market rates as long as it's a primary residence -- the tenant's home for just over six months of the year.
Tenants' rent rises every one or two years, with the increase set by a city board. Long-term residents sometimes pay far lower rents than newer arrivals, since owners can impose higher rents on apartments when they change hands.
He also doesn't have 4 different apartments.
Combining apartments to make a larger one is "not uncommon," said Nancy Peters, spokeswoman for the state Division of Housing and Community Renewal, which oversees regulations for rent-stabilized apartments.
Rangel said he moved into an apartment that had already been combined by a previous tenant. The congressman said he added another studio apartment a few years later to accommodate visiting relatives.
Now if you'd like the government to say Rangle has to open his doors and let the homless in, well........that kind of reminds me of that one scene in Dr. Zhavago, and all the other movies about the birth of Communism. You know the scene, where he comes home and finds all the different families living in his home. His wife and chlid, cold and sick.
NIOSA
07-13-2008, 02:21 PM
I am not proposing communism. He has 4 of those apartments, merged them together or not, he has 4, one is used for his campaign headquarters. I have not said, or even hinted that he should open his doors (all four of them) to anybody.
You may not be bothered that he has been able to do something that just an ordinary citizen can not, but it's just another example of "don't do as I do, do as I say".
When Charlie held a news conference denouncing the article & saying, "I have done nothing wrong but....", the crowd gathered wasn't very pleased with him.
NIOSA........according to your own article this is a common occurrence .......trust me, it pains me to be supporting Rangle......I think he's a blowhard and publicity hound.......but what he did is not only perfectly legal, but it happens everyday.
4Reaganomics
07-14-2008, 05:19 AM
AH, rent control, a price ceiling imposed by the government that disrupts the markets and creates a shortage. Inefficient by nature, but wait, a politician is one of the few who benefits significantly from the price ceiling while overall standards suffer.
I know, quite shocking. Large government births inefficient policies which politicians benefit from.
We've seen this from the right and the left, we as a people cannot elect this type of character represent us.
NIOSA
07-14-2008, 03:58 PM
NIOSA........according to your own article this is a common occurrence .......trust me, it pains me to be supporting Rangle......I think he's a blowhard and publicity hound.......but what he did is not only perfectly legal, but it happens everyday.
I understand it's legal, but like I said, that doesn't make it right.
Remember when Kofe Anan had a rent controlled property in NYC? There was a big bru-ha-ha about that because he sub let it to his brother (or some relative) when he moved out.
Again, I don't agree with rent control, but it's what NY does, & it just seems to me that Rangle abused it.
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