McCain asked about PNAC and 9/11 at town hall

[suedanim]

Newsflash.. McCain headed the parent org that was the primary fundraising entity for the PNAC! This is disturbing news I did not know about. Notice too... he does not answer this man's question, but changes the subject. Now it becomes more clear why Leiberman is always at his side.

You'll notice too that Bill Krystol heads, in one fashion or other, each one of the orgs listed below. This is the same Bill Krystol who is the central political expert commentator for Foxnews.

McCain??? The maverick McCain is just another 9/11 coverup neocon? No wonder he wants to bomb-bomb Iran and stay in Iraq 100 years. He sold out long before I had thought.


McCain asked about PNAC and 9/11 at town hall (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_asked_about_PNAC_and_911_0710.html)

David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Thursday July 10, 2008

During a town hall event in Portsmouth, OH on Wednesday, John McCain was asked by a member of the audience whether his links to the parent organization of the Project for a New American Century explain why he has been reluctant to support calls for a new investigation of 9/11.

The questioner began, "I was curious about a document. Back in September of 2000, the Project for a New American Century, or PNAC, whose members included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush and Paul Wolfowitz, wrote a document entitled 'Rebuilding Americans Defenses.'"

As McCain turned and paced away from him, the questioner continued, "In it, they state, quote, "The process of transformation, even if it bring revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor."

"Now, many Americans believe that that 'new Pearl Harbor' event took place on 9/11," the questioner went on, as McCain grimaced slightly. "And according to a recent New York Times and CBS News poll, 84% of Americans believe that there were some criminal elements of our government involved in 9/11."

Calls of disapproval began to arise from the audience, but the questioner shot back, "Hold on!" and continued asking McCain, "Can you tell us about your role as -- hold on -- as president of the 'New Citizen Project (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project),' founded in 1994, which served as a chief fund-raising and parent organization to PNAC? And is this one of the factors that has made you so reluctant to support the victims' family members and first responders who are begging for a new investigation into 9/11?"

The boos became louder at that point, and McCain grimaced again, turned his back and walked away, but the questioner insisted, "It's a serious question."

"I have a serious answer, sir," McCain replied, "and that is that it was Joe Lieberman and I -- a Democrat -- that sponsored the legislation for the 9/11 Commission. ... And very frankly, the administration was not, shall I say, enthusiastic about the establishment of that commission. ... I am proud of what the 9/11 Commission did. I am proud that we have enacted many of the reforms ... that they recommended. And I will stand by their recommendations and their conclusions, as will the overwhelming majority of Americans."

"It's a free country," McCain concluded. "You are free to disagree with their conclusions. But I am proud to have been one of those who was, along with Joe Lieberman, responsible for the establishment of the 9/11 Commission."

This video is from CNN.com, broadcast July 9, 2008. Go to link above to view video.

[suedanim]

New Citizenship Project (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project)

From SourceWatch

New Citizenship Project (also New Citizenship Project, Inc.) is a non-profit organization funded by large right-wing foundations. Founded in 1994, NCP initiated the Project for the New American Century (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Centu ry), one of the key behind-the-scenes architects of the Bush administration's foreign policy. According to his senate biography, John McCain (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_McCain) served as a president of NCP, "an organization created to promote greater civic participation in our national life."[1] (http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Newscenter.ViewPressRelease&Content_id=684)

NCP shares the same address and suite as PNAC. According to NCP's listing in The Right Guide, NCP and the Philanthropy Roundtable (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Philanthropy_Roundtable) share the same phone number. The Philanthropy Roundtable (http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/)'s office is on the same floor of the same office building as PNAC and NCP.

In 1996, the Council on Crime in America (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_on_Crime_in_America&action=edit), another NCP project, authored a report The State of Violent Crime in America (http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=4389) which was published by the Heartland Institute (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute). The Council., which appears to have only been briefly active in 1996, was chaired by former "Drug Czar" William Bennett (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_Bennett) and former Attorney General Griffin Bell. McCain also served on the Council.[2] (http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Newscenter.ViewPressRelease&Content_id=684)
per [3] (http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm)

Chairman: William Kristol (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_Kristol)
President: Gary J. Schmitt (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Gary_J._Schmitt)

The watchdog (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Watchdog) group "Media Transparency (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Media_Transparency), the Money Behind the Media"[4] (http://www.mediatransparency.org/), reports 47 grants totalling $2,722,900 given to the New Citizenship Project from 1994 through 2001.

Funding sources appear to be exclusively from three far right-wing neo-conservative (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Neo-conservative) think tank (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Think_tank) funders:

The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation of Milwaukee, Wisconsin[5] (http://www.bradleyfdn.org/): This is the primary sponsor of the American Enterprise Institute (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Enterprise_Institute) (AEI), which was the recipient of over a million dollars in 2001 alone. "By way of a program known as the New Citizenship Project, Inc., PNAC Project for the New American Century (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Centu ry) received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lynde_and_Harry_Bradley_Foundation )."[6] (http://www.endthewar.org/Downloads/CLIflyer.rtf)
John M. Olin Foundation (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_M._Olin_Foundation), Inc. of New York[7] (http://www.jmof.org/): This foundation grew out of a family manufacturing business (chemical and munitions) and funds right-wing think tanks (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Think_tanks) like the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heritage_Foundation), the Manhattan Institute (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Manhattan_Institute) for Public Policy Change, and the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hoover_Institution_on_War%2C_Revol ution_and_Peace).[8] (http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientgrants.php?258)
Scaife Foundations (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Scaife_Foundations) -- Sarah Mellon Scaife Foundation[9] (http://www.scaife.com/) and Scaife Family Foundation[10] (http://www.scaife.com/) -- in New York: These foundations are financed by the Mellon industrial, oil, and banking fortune.[11] (http://www.mediatransparency.org/funderprofile.php?funderID=3)
The John M. Olin Foundation, Inc. listed grants in 1997 show the subtitle for The New Citizenship Project as the "Project for the Next American Century." It clearly appears that the origninal 1994 PNAC concept has become the current Project for the New American Century (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Centu ry).[12] (http://www.jmof.org/grants/1997n.htm)
"...the New Citizenship Project, an affiliate of the Project for the Republican Future (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_Republican_Future) , a conservative G.O.P. think tank (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Think_tank) founded by William Kristol (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_Kristol)."[13] (http://www.ccldp.org/pdf/report_walters.pdf)

From the 2000 edition of "The Right Guide (published by Economics America, Ann Arbor, MI):
New Citizenship Project
1150 17th St., NW Ste 510
Washington DC 20036
Phone: 202-822-8333
Fax: 202-822-8325

Contact person: John Walters (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_P._Walters), President
Officers or Principals: William Kristol (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_Kristol), Chairman; Jay P. Lefkowitz (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jay_Lefkowitz), Director.

Mission or Interest: "To restore American self-government and civil society." Public policy organization focusing on the AmeriCorps program, drugs and crime, affirmative action, and other issues.

Accomplishments: In 1997 the Project spent $194,859 on its programs.

Total Revenue: 1997 $152,008

Total Expenses: $219,815 -- 89% Program Services, 9% Management and general, 3% Fundraising Net Assets: $72,276
Tax Statuts: 501(c)3

Financial Information: In 1997 grants received included $50,000 from the Sarah Scaife Foundation, $50,000 from the John M. Olin foundation, $37,000 from the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, and $35,000 from the Scaife Family Foundation.
Background Information: Established in 1994.

[edit (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project&action=edit&section=1)]
Contact

New Citizenship Project, Inc.
1150 17th St., NW Ste 510

[suedanim]

What? No comments?

John McCain, it turns out, is a PNAC insider, one of the founding fathers. And guess what... All he had to do was sit back, feign opposition to the Bush wars, the handling of 9/11, before, during and after.. and now can reverse himself, embrace it ALL, claiming he only wants to finish the job since we are in it now.. but he was a part of the lobby that put us there to begin with. :grrrr:

THIS.... makes Keating...and every other scandalous event he's been involved with.. pale in comparison.

THIS... is hugely important news.

[Osborn F. Enready]

Not that everyone knows about this, but it is OLD news, and not just because its about McCain.... ;)

[ECW]

Shows the depths that the Neocons will go to subvert democracy in America and promote their corrupted vision of what we should all be. Don't expect your run-of-the-mill Neocons here to lift their heads and respond.

[suedanim]

Well it is old news... old, not very well publicized news.. that many may have known, but I'm finding at least on other sites, a very high interest in. And it appears most who've responded did not know about it.

And no...I'm not surprised that its getting little response here. Interesting though.

[Milton Bradley]

What? No comments?

John McCain, it turns out, is a PNAC insider, one of the founding fathers. And guess what... All he had to do was sit back, feign opposition to the Bush wars, the handling of 9/11, before, during and after.. and now can reverse himself, embrace it ALL, claiming he only wants to finish the job since we are in it now.. but he was a part of the lobby that put us there to begin with. :grrrr:

THIS.... makes Keating...and every other scandalous event he's been involved with.. pale in comparison.

THIS... is hugely important news.


I have to agree with you here. This is evidence that McCain is nothing but as establishment mouthpiece, and that he has sold his allegiance to the highest bidder. ( P.S. That's not "We the People" )


Another pretender to the throne.


This is the type of egregious treachery that drives people to the Libertarian party. If only more would wake up.

[Truth_and_Power]

I have been extensively interested in the PNAC, whose site has been taken down, and I was not aware that mccain had been PRESIDENT of its funding arm. I can't say I'm especially surprised, however this is a big confirmation of where McCain is really headed. More war.

[Osborn F. Enready]

ECW said:
Shows the depths that the Neocons will go to subvert democracy in America and promote their corrupted vision of what we should all be. Don't expect your run-of-the-mill Neocons here to lift their heads and respond.

Great point, but you totally ignore the same types of actions by your own corrupt to the core "party" of losers and failed ideas....

Why would you expect better from an equally in denial partisan such as yourself?

[Muser]

Well it is old news... old, not very well publicized news.. that many may have known, but I'm finding at least on other sites, a very high interest in. And it appears most who've responded did not know about it.

And no...I'm not surprised that its getting little response here. Interesting though.

Don't equate little response with lack of interest, at least on my part; you and I are ideologically opposed in many areas, but on this issue we're completely aligned.

Thank you, BTW, for presenting this information in this public forum - more people need to wake up and smell the truth.

[suedanim]

Don't equate little response with lack of interest, at least on my part; you and I are ideologically opposed in many areas, but on this issue we're completely aligned.

Thank you, BTW, for presenting this information in this public forum - more people need to wake up and smell the truth.

Thanks for taking note.

Pundits and message board warriors on the net ask... who is Obama? But seriously, we don't know McCain AT ALL...and should be asking, who is this guy and why has he utterly reversed himself on about everything since just eight years ago? He now claims to be hard right, but this is not his history. ???

How could anyone trust his judgement or his commitment to the core domestic beliefs they most care about when his position on those issues was different a short time ago..... and who is so tightly associated with the cabal that has had a stranglehold foreign policy WHICH they proved themselves to be incompetant in?

Supporting or defending him baffles me beyond words.

I just have to accept that those on the right who support him want more war, more death and will accept the eventual draft, from which their children and grandchildren will find themselves forced to serve in the neocon wars... many of which will come back home in body bags or in pieces.

[4Reaganomics]

I think you have McCain and the GOP confused with Rangel and the democrats on the draft issue.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/19/AR2006111900376_pf.html

Here is Murtha as well

http://digg.com/politics/Murtha_Supports_Reinstating_Draft

[suedanim]

And proposing it means those who propose it are concerned about a less strained military. Our young men and women are spread too thin in every possible way, volunteer enlistment is way down. Just who do you think will fight these wars? To alleviate the strain, it only make sense to propose it. And of course... to allow the rich, the comfortable an opportunity to serve in George and Dicks wars as well.

Don't you think everyone's sons and daughters should have an opportunity to go over there and possibly be killed for their country? What kind of American is content with the the poorest, least advantaged fighting wars for the neocons??

I don't want the draft either. I have 7 sons... I'd be crazy to want the draft. But something will have to be done if we go to war on Iran and further expand in Afghanistan. Just how do you think we can sustain wars in so many countries in the ME without the draft being reinstated???

If you support the insane warmongers you will be forced to support the draft.