Iran successfully tests long-range missile

[December]

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:38:51

Good for them. So now Iran can defend itself against Zionist terrorist regime of Israel.


Iran successfully tests long-range missile

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Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps has successfully test-fired new long and mid-range missiles in response to threats coming from US and Israel.
The IRGC tested the Shahab 3 missile, which can hit any targets within a range of 2,000 kilometers on the second day of a military exercise dubbed The Great Prophet III.

Shahab 3 is equipped with a one-ton conventional warhead.

Nine highly advanced missiles with improved accuracy were simultaneously tested including the Zelzal and Fateh missiles with ranges of 400km and 170km respectively .
The Great Prophet III is a joint maneuver carried out by the IRGC naval and ground forces in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz region.
Press TV correspondent reporting from the site of the maneuver says the missiles could strike any target within the specified range regardless of climate conditions or the time.

IRGC Naval Commander Morteza Saffari said various missile, rocket and torpedo launchers as well as military vessels and land-to-sea missiles were tested during the exercise.
"The IRGC Navy is carrying out this maneuver to show it is fully prepared to counter any possible enemy aggression or adventurism," said Saffari.

"The maneuver also sends out a reassuring message to regional countries that together we can secure the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz without the presence of foreign forces," he added.
Meanwhile, IRGC Air Force Commander Hossein Salami told Press TV that the aim of the exercise was to demonstrate 'just how strong-willed the Islamic Republic is in defending its sovereignty against any challenges by those enemies that have used harsh and threatening words against Iran in recent weeks.'

The IRGC is conducting the maneuver amid growing speculation about a possible Israeli military strike against Iran.
Israeli military conducted a Mediterranean maneuver last month -- an apparent rehearsal for a potential attack on Iran's nuclear sites.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=63074&sectionid=351020101

[Elrathin]

Wow, now they are as effective as the U.S. was back in 1960 lol.

[Wndrtch]

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:38:51

Good for them. So now Iran can defend itself against Zionist terrorist regime of Israel.


Iran successfully tests long-range missile

http://www.presstv.com/photo/20080709/jalili20080709093257484.jpg

Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps has successfully test-fired new long and mid-range missiles in response to threats coming from US and Israel.
The IRGC tested the Shahab 3 missile, which can hit any targets within a range of 2,000 kilometers on the second day of a military exercise dubbed The Great Prophet III.

Shahab 3 is equipped with a one-ton conventional warhead.

Nine highly advanced missiles with improved accuracy were simultaneously tested including the Zelzal and Fateh missiles with ranges of 400km and 170km respectively .
The Great Prophet III is a joint maneuver carried out by the IRGC naval and ground forces in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz region.
Press TV correspondent reporting from the site of the maneuver says the missiles could strike any target within the specified range regardless of climate conditions or the time.

IRGC Naval Commander Morteza Saffari said various missile, rocket and torpedo launchers as well as military vessels and land-to-sea missiles were tested during the exercise.
"The IRGC Navy is carrying out this maneuver to show it is fully prepared to counter any possible enemy aggression or adventurism," said Saffari.

"The maneuver also sends out a reassuring message to regional countries that together we can secure the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz without the presence of foreign forces," he added.
Meanwhile, IRGC Air Force Commander Hossein Salami told Press TV that the aim of the exercise was to demonstrate 'just how strong-willed the Islamic Republic is in defending its sovereignty against any challenges by those enemies that have used harsh and threatening words against Iran in recent weeks.'

The IRGC is conducting the maneuver amid growing speculation about a possible Israeli military strike against Iran.
Israeli military conducted a Mediterranean maneuver last month -- an apparent rehearsal for a potential attack on Iran's nuclear sites.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=63074&sectionid=351020101

But, but, but we're peaceful.

What missles? Oh, THOSE missles. Well, heh, those are part of our new sanitation system. What did you think they were for?

:help:

[DamnYankee]

Thankfully Iran is not a serious threat. According to Obama anyway.

[DANG]

Only question remains;
How bad does Darth Cheney want those Iran oil fields?


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You think he will peacefully surrender the reins of power after all his hard work of surrounding the treasure?
Or is it a coincidence that Iraq and Afghanistan geograhically squeeze Iran like a sponge?



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[Wndrtch]

Only question remains;
How bad does Darth Cheney want those Iran oil fields?

About as bad as China, India, England, France, Germany, etc...

You think he will peacefully surrender the reins of power after all his hard work of surrounding the treasure?

Are you suggesting Cheney won't leave without a fight? :fight:

Give me a break.

Or is it a coincidence that Iraq and Afghanistan geograhically squeeze Iran like a sponge?

Finally, a Liberal who gets it! :clapper:

Yes, we went to Iraq so our diplomacy with Iran would have teeth to back it.
Iran was ALWAYS the main issue, but Iraq also gives us access to Syria, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia, so it was of strategic importance in the region.





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[micfranklin]

Finally, a Liberal who gets it!

Yes, we went to Iraq so our diplomacy with Iran would have teeth to back it.
Iran was ALWAYS the main issue, but Iraq also gives us access to Syria, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia, so it was of strategic importance in the region.

Now I find that just funny.

[DANG]

About as bad as China, India, England, France, Germany, etc...China and Russia have been there a lonnnng time. THEY actually went in like civilized people.... INVITED. ....Through the front door.
Not with guns blazing while the innocent village is asleep. LIKE WE DO!

China Daily (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/31/content_387140.htm)

China, Iran sign biggest oil & gas deal
(CRI)
Updated: 2004-10-31 08:51


China's oil giant Sinopec Group has signed a US$70 billion oil and natural gas agreement with Iran, which is China's biggest energy deal with the No. 2 OPEC producer.

Under a memorandum of understanding signed Thursday, Sinopec Group will buy 250 million tons of liquefied natural gas over 30 years from Iran and develop the giant Yadavaran field.

Iran is also committed to export 150,000 barrels per day of crude oil to China for 25 years at market prices after commissioning of the field.

Iran's oil Minister Bijan Zanganeh, who is on a two-day visit to Beijing pursuing closer ties, said Iran is China's biggest oil supplier and wants to be its long-term business partner.

Official figures show that China imported 226 million tons of oil in2003, about 13 percent of which coming from Iran.

Beijing expects to secure foreign energy supplies by the deals for its economy, which has turned China into a major oil importer but suffers severe power shortages.THATS DIPLOMACY.
What we do is , like.... knocking off gas stations on a giant scale.
Our military industrial complex is profit driven and devoid of moral and constitutional limitations. Evil, pretty much.

Oh yeah, Russia has similar deals working WITH Iran.





Are you suggesting Cheney won't leave without a fight? :fight: Damn, you've broken the code!!

Yes, we went to Iraq so our diplomacy with Iran would have teeth to back it.Diplomacy? ..... or armed robbery? (Plenty of clues in Iraq)
Iran was ALWAYS the main issue, but Iraq also gives us access to Syria, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia, so it was of strategic importance in the region.Strategic and grotesque. Hegemony and empire has always met with disaster.
There is no "Noble cause" for an assault on Iran.
Just try telling cheney that. To him profit is GOD.

[December]

Wow, now they are as effective as the U.S. was back in 1960 lol.

Elrathin, I am not familiar with US missile capabilities during the 60s.
Would you please explain how effective they were?




Iran: Ballistic might, solely defensive

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:19:39

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Iran's Defense Minister, Mostafa Mohammad-Najjar

Iran's Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad-Najjar says the country's missile capabilities will be used to protect the nation from invaders.

"Our missile capacity is just for defensive purposes, to safeguard peace in Iran and the Persian Gulf region," said Brigadier General Mohammad-Najjar on Wednesday.

"Our missiles will not be used to threaten any country, they are only intended for those who dare attack Iran," he added.
Brig. Gen. Najjar made the remarks shortly after Iran successfully launched nine long- and medium-ranged missiles. The Shahab-3, capable of hitting targets within a range of 2,000 kilometers, was among the missiles test-fired.

The test came one day after a senior Iranian official warned of an immediate retaliation should Israel or the US attack the country.

READ MORE -- http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=63130&sectionid=351020101

[December]

Thankfully Iran is not a serious threat. According to Obama anyway.

I think you are wrong. Obama says that Iran a "great threat". So Obama is a Zionist.

Obama wants sanctions for Iran while McCain wants shield

By Andy Sullivan
Wed Jul 9, 9:13 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama called Iran a threat that should be contained with diplomacy and tighter sanctions on Wednesday, and Republican John McCain said Tehran's missile test proved the need for a missile defense shield in Europe.

Obama, who called Iran a "great threat" on ABC's "Good Morning America, said President George W. Bush has not backed up confrontational rhetoric with economic sanctions. Obama cited reports indicating that U.S. exports to Iran have increased during Bush's years in office.

McCain, who has called Obama's willingness to meet with U.S. foes such as Iran naive, said the Iranian tests proved the need for a missile-defense shield in Europe.

"Working with our European and regional allies is the best way to meet the threat posed by Iran, not unilateral concessions that undermine multilateral diplomacy," McCain said in a prepared statement.
The United States on Tuesday signed a pact to build part of the missile shield in the Czech Republic. The Bush administration also wants to install facilities in Poland, although talks have stalled.
These efforts have angered Russia, which has said it will respond militarily if a shield is deployed near its borders.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/usa_politics_iran_dc

[Wndrtch]

I think you are wrong. Obama says that Iran a "great threat". So Obama is a Zionist.

Obama wants sanctions for Iran while McCain wants shield

By Andy Sullivan
Wed Jul 9, 9:13 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama called Iran a threat that should be contained with diplomacy and tighter sanctions on Wednesday, and Republican John McCain said Tehran's missile test proved the need for a missile defense shield in Europe.

Obama, who called Iran a "great threat" on ABC's "Good Morning America, said President George W. Bush has not backed up confrontational rhetoric with economic sanctions. Obama cited reports indicating that U.S. exports to Iran have increased during Bush's years in office.

McCain, who has called Obama's willingness to meet with U.S. foes such as Iran naive, said the Iranian tests proved the need for a missile-defense shield in Europe.

"Working with our European and regional allies is the best way to meet the threat posed by Iran, not unilateral concessions that undermine multilateral diplomacy," McCain said in a prepared statement.
The United States on Tuesday signed a pact to build part of the missile shield in the Czech Republic. The Bush administration also wants to install facilities in Poland, although talks have stalled.
These efforts have angered Russia, which has said it will respond militarily if a shield is deployed near its borders.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/usa_politics_iran_dc

Yah, he says that NOW. Before it was unconditional tea and crumpets.

He fliped on Iran, and he will be flipping on Iraq soon too. Probably sometime after he vists there.

[brien]

The US will probably do nothing with regard to this incident.

It is Israel that one needs to monitor. Iran doesn't threaten the US with its missles, but it has, through its leader, expressed a will to "wipe Israel off the map", a threat taken very seriously in Israel. Iran may want to monitor the skies above its nuclear power plants very carefully in the future.

[December]

........but it has, through its leader, expressed a will to "wipe Israel off the map", a threat taken very seriously in Israel.

No... No... No....
Iran's President did NOT say that. Please, do not repeat the Zionist propaganda.

We discussed that alread. Here's what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad have said: "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".
As you can see he did not speak about Israel and he did not even use the word map.

READ MORE -- http://democracyforums.com/showthread.php?t=14904

[brien]

It has been widely reported, as seen here in the W.P., that he used the phrase "wiped off the map". He also said the solution was to "destroy Israel", and this is what matters here. This is what was reported in the W.P.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/03/AR2006080300629.html

Ahmadinejad: Destroy Israel, End Crisis

By SEAN YOONG
The Associated Press
Thursday, August 3, 2006; 10:49 AM

PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday the solution to the Middle East crisis is to destroy Israel. In a speech during an emergency meeting of Muslim leaders, Ahmadinejad also called for an immediate halt to fighting in Lebanon between Israel and the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah.

"Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate cease-fire must be implemented," he said.


Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad smiles during a meeting with Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade, unseen, in Tehran, in this Tuesday, June 27, 2006 file photo. Ahmadinejad on Tuesday rejected a U.N. Security Council resolution that would give his nation until Aug. 31 to suspend uranium enrichment. Instead, Ahmadinejad insisted Tehran would pursue its nuclear program.

Ahmadinejad, who has drawn international condemnation with previous calls for Israel to be wiped off the map, said the Middle East would be better off "without the existence of the Zionist regime."

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So, it seems as though the W.P. is reporting that he has used the phrase "wiped off the map", so are they Zionists as well?

[IndieVisible]

So is this suppose to say Iran is not a threat then? Oh gee I feel so much better, NOT!

[December]

It has been widely reported....

Well.... I know that, of course. That is why I am telling you that the Zionist media mistranslated his quote on purpose.
Do you understand that he NEVER said that?

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".
As you can see he did not speak about Israel and he did not even use the word map.

READ MORE -- http://democracyforums.com/showthread.php?t=14904

[December]

So is this suppose to say Iran is not a threat then? Oh gee I feel so much better, NOT!

What exactly are you referring to, IndieVisible?

[brien]

So is this suppose to say Iran is not a threat then? Oh gee I feel so much better, NOT!

Iran is sabre rattling, probably for several reasons here, of which I care not to speculate, but one thing I know for sure, if they were going to attack Israel, they wouldn't be talking about it or firing dummy missiles, they would just do it.

Iran reminds me of the playground bully who eggs on anyone just to pick a fight. I remember him(the bully) clearly saying; "Ca mon, hit me.... hit me, just once."

And when you decked him with a sock on the jaw, he went off home crying to his mother.

[IndieVisible]

What exactly are you referring to, IndieVisible?

Testing long range missiles. Like they only want nuclear power for energy, and they would never use it for weapons :)

[brien]

Well.... I know that, of course. That is why I am telling you that the Zionist media mistranslated his quote on purpose.
Do you understand that he NEVER said that?

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".
As you can see he did not speak about Israel and he did not even use the word map.

READ MORE -- http://democracyforums.com/showthread.php?t=14904

I understand what he means, and what was reported and verified, in the world press; his clear intention by his own words, is to destroy Israel. It can't be more clear to me.

[December]

I understand what he means, and what was reported and verified, in the world press; his clear intention by his own words, is to destroy Israel. It can't be more clear to me.

Do you understand that it was mistranslated?

[brien]

Do you understand that it was mistranslated?


So you say, but I haven't seen any proof for your statement. I provided you proof of what I wrote by citing credible sources and I am comfortable with them.

[Shoey]

*BREAKING NEWS* Israel bombs Iran back to the stone age, live report at Bedrock coming soon.....

[Wndrtch]

Do you understand that it was mistranslated?

Do you understand the intent is the same? :love:

[IndieVisible]

Oh sure, Iran would like to kiss and make up and live happily ever after with Israel. They are such misunderstood people. They only have the best intentions and wish no one any harm whatsoever. :madlaugh:

[lily]

Last week Israel flew planes and had a military exersise over Iran.......all was good. Today Iran tests missles, and it's some kind of catastrophe..........I don't get it.

[BoogyMan]

Lily, it validates the concerns many have that a nutjob like Ahmadinejad will get his hands on the controls of a nuclear weapon. If Ahmadinejad were sane, it would be a different discussion.

[lily]

Well.......I don't exactly think Olmert is all there either. Israel is the one that has had more conflicts........and did military exersizes over Iran, just last week I suppose Iran could just ignore it, but if Israel is showing what it's got, why not Iran?

As has already been shown by Dang...........unlike the propaganda we've been fed, China and Russia seem to get what they want with diplomacy.....so here's hoping that Obama gets elected, otherwise it'll be more of the same, that is if Bush doesn't start this war before he leaves office and leaves the mess for someone else to clean up........and don't think he won't he doesn't have anything to lose. He's already screwed the Republican pary every which way from Sunday.........but then all of this may be moot.......as I believe Iran's elections are next year.

.......also i fyou think Ahmadinejad is calling the shots...........

[apdst]

THEY actually went in like civilized people.... INVITED. ....Through the front door.
Not with guns blazing while the innocent village is asleep. LIKE WE DO!

Either you were sleeping during the 80's, or you weren't born yet.

[Wndrtch]

Well.......I don't exactly think Olmert is all there either. Israel is the one that has had more conflicts........and did military exersizes over Iran, just last week I suppose Iran could just ignore it, but if Israel is showing what it's got, why not Iran?

I agree with you lily, Iran had every right to show their cards. I'm rather glad they did, because it's always a mistake to show your opponants what you can do. It's a strategic error on their part.

It also validates the need to be on thier boarders. Notice how Obama did a 180 on them? Don't worry though, I'm sure Hamas will still endorse him.

As has already been shown by Dang...........unlike the propaganda we've been fed, China and Russia seem to get what they want with diplomacy.....

So didn't we for a time, but things change. Iran is now run by a bunch of 17th Century apocalyptic theocrats, who support Islamic terrorist activity around the Globe. In order for diplomacy to work peacefully, there needs to be a reasonable expectation that the other side is interested in a peaceful outcome as well, and not just using the moment to stall for more time.

Besides, I thought Liberals hated the idea of religion-controlled governments? Why are you folks so focused on supporting this one?


so here's hoping that Obama gets elected, otherwise it'll be more of the same...

Hopefully, it will be more of the same.


November 13, 2007
U.S. Thwarts 19 Terrorist Attacks Against America Since 9/11
by James Jay Carafano, Ph.D.
Backgrounder #2085

Criticisms of post-9/11 efforts to protect the United States from attack range from claims that America is more vulnerable than ever to the contention that the transnational terrorist danger is vastly over-hyped.[1] A review of publicly available information on at least 19 terrorist conspiracies thwarted by U.S. law enforce*ment suggests that the truth lies somewhere in between these two arguments.

U.S. agencies are actively combating individuals and groups that are intent on killing Americans and plot*ting mayhem to foster violent extremist political and religious agendas. A review of the data suggests several important conclusions:

Combating terrorism is essential for keeping Amer*ica safe, free, and prosperous.


Counterterrorism operations have uncovered threats that in some cases, although less sophisticated than the 9/11 attacks and at most loosely affiliated with "al-Qaeda" central, could have resulted in signifi*cant loss of life and property if they had been con*ducted successfully.


The best means to prevent terrorist attacks is effective intelligence collection, information sharing, and coordinated, determined counterterrorism opera*tions that can stop attacks before they are mounted.


Effective operations often require federal, state, local, and international cooperation.
Few of the planned attacks were potentially as dev*astating in scope as the September 11, 2001, attacks on Washington and New York. In addition, the suc*cessful interdiction of these efforts offers no guaran*tee that future attacks will also be prevented.

Nevertheless, the government's success in pro*tecting the homeland argues that vigilant and proac*tive counterterrorism operations are an essential part of keeping America safe in the 21st century. Future efforts to mitigate the threat of transnational terrorism should follow the example set by post-9/11 operations by respecting both the rule of law and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and the necessity of conducting concerted efforts to seek out and frustrate terrorist conspiracies before they come to fruition.

If care to actually READ about the plots, here.

http://www.heritage.org/research/HomelandDefense/bg2085.cfm

[AlanC]

Well.......I don't exactly think Olmert is all there either. Israel is the one that has had more conflicts........and did military exersizes over Iran, just last week I suppose Iran could just ignore it, but if Israel is showing what it's got, why not Iran?

As has already been shown by Dang...........unlike the propaganda we've been fed, China and Russia seem to get what they want with diplomacy.....so here's hoping that Obama gets elected, otherwise it'll be more of the same, that is if Bush doesn't start this war before he leaves office and leaves the mess for someone else to clean up........and don't think he won't he doesn't have anything to lose. He's already screwed the Republican pary every which way from Sunday.........but then all of this may be moot.......as I believe Iran's elections are next year.

.......also i fyou think Ahmadinejad is calling the shots...........

The "diplomacy" used by the Russians and the Chinese is to sell Iran weapons and nuclear technology and build it for them. I'm sure that if we wanted to do the same, Iran may have dealt with us as well.

But the point of both our negotiations and Europe's has been to get them to give up the idea of a nuclear weapons program, not develope it. Selling them the technology they want is not diplomacy.

[heyjude]

All I see is two countries threatening to attack Iran without provocation. The US and Israel. I have not seen Iran threatening anyone. Only to protect themselves if they are attacked. The US apparently thinks it is provocation if a country tries to defend itself. God help anyone who gets in Bush/Cheney's path on the way to capturing and holding the world's oil supply.

[piratemonkey]

It appears that the test may have not have gone as well as claimed:

As the above illustration shows, the second missile from the right appears to be the sum of two other missiles in the image. The contours of the billowing smoke match perfectly near the ground, as well in the immediate wake of the missile. Only a small black dot in the reddish area of exhaust seems to differ from the missile to its left, though there are also some slight variations in the color of the smoke and the sky.
Maybe they'll use Photoshop instead of nukes to defeat us.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/in-an-iranian-image-a-missile-too-many/

[4Reaganomics]

Photoshop, you're kidding. They aren't that advanced yet. They just scooped up Windows 95 and will use Microsoft Paint.

[Wndrtch]

All I see is two countries threatening to attack Iran without provocation.

http://msfriendly.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ostrich_head_in_ground_full.jpg

[AlanC]

I would say that since the fourth missile in the actual photo is still on the launcher, it didn't fire as planned and so they just duped over it.

Does that mobile launcher look familiar to anyone?

Not too much skill there, but then, what do you really expect?

Middle Eastern countries have been promising the annihilation of Israel since it was formed. To claim that the Iranian government and ruling Imams want to peacefully co-exist with Israel is to ignore the last 70 years of history completely.