Iran warns of closing Hormuz Strait

[December]

If Iran blocks the Strait of Hormuz then US economy goes waaaaaaaay South. A civil disorder will follow, so start packing some dry food, fuel, medicine and weapons, people....


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Chief of Staff of Iran's Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi

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Iran warns of closing Hormuz Strait
Sat, 05 Jul 2008


Chief of Staff of Iran's Armed Forces says the Islamic Republic will close the Strait of Hormuz if its interests are placed in jeopardy.
"The Strait of Hormuz is a strategic waterway and it is therefore very important for us to keep it open," Major General Hassan Firouzabadi said on Sunday.
"It should be made clear that we will not allow anyone to pass through the waterway, if Iran's regional interests are jeopardized," he added.

Firouzabadi's remarks come after a recent New York Times report revealed that in the first week of June, the Israeli air force staged a maneuver off the southern Mediterranean Island of Crete in preparation for a war with the Islamic Republic.
According to the report, Israeli aircraft flew over 900 miles, roughly the distance from their airfields to a nuclear enrichment facility in the central Iranian city of Natanz.

Speaking one day after the 20th anniversary of the downing of an Iranian passenger plane by the US Navy in the Strait of Hormuz, Maj. Gen. Firouzabadi criticized Washington for bowing to Tel Aviv's every demand.
"The US military belongs to the government of the United States. Greedy warmongers like Bush and the Zionists must not be able to take advantage of this institution," said Firouzabadi.

The top Iranian commander said the US government is 'trapped in the jaws of global Zionism', concluding that the American nation and military forces should not be sacrificed for unworthy rulers serving the interests of Zionism.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=62662&sectionid=351020101

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www.russian-victories.ru

[Rage]

Thanks for the info. Too bad they wont.

[December]

Too bad they wont.

Why not?

[apdst]

Yeah, it is too bad they're not that stupid.

[December]

Yeah, it is too bad they're not that stupid.

Explain that.

http://www.russian-victories.ru

[apdst]

Explain it? Ok. Closing off the straits would be an act of war. At that point, we would have more than enough reason to stick missiles up their asses.

[Elrathin]

Explain that.

http://www.russian-victories.ru

Why are you listing so called Russian Victories, when it would be Iran that would be closing the strait? Something which by the way they do not have the authority nor military to enforce (at least for long).

[December]

Explain it? Ok. Closing off the straits would be an act of war. At that point, we would have more than enough reason to stick missiles up their asses.

Act of war against whom?

[December]

Why are you listing so called Russian Victories, when it would be Iran that would be closing the strait? Something which by the way they do not have the authority nor military to enforce (at least for long).

To show that Russia is behind Iran. Iran is Russia's ally.

Russia will use nuclear weapons if Iran attacked by ANY country. :)

[Elrathin]

To show that Russia is behind Iran. Iran is Russia's ally.

Russia will use nuclear weapons if Iran attacked by ANY country. :)

Russia would not be behind the illegal closing of a strait Iran is not in control of.

And Russia knows if it uses nuclear weapons, it will be annihilated as well.

[December]

Russia would not be behind the illegal closing of a strait Iran is not in control of.

Right.

And Russia knows if it uses nuclear weapons, it will be annihilated as well.

Russia WILL use nuclear weapons, Elrathin.
Wanna bet? Try to bomb Iran. :)

[Elrathin]

Russia WILL use nuclear weapons, Elrathin.
Wanna bet? Try to bomb Iran. :)

Well then Russia is willing to be a parking lot as well. Wanna bet?

The difference is Russian would not be stupid to back an illegal event that Iran is wanting to do. But hey if Russia is tired of living and wants to launch nukes, I'm sure the USA would be happy to oblige it straight to the backside of hell :)

[December]

Well then Russia is willing to be a parking lot as well. Wanna bet?


Some wars are fought covertly.
Here's a plan:

1. Israeli war planes bomb Iran's n. sites;
2. Iran blocks the strait with mines;
3. American ships are stuck;
4. There is panick in USA;
5. Israel wants to help US and strikes Iran's capital;
6. Iran uses its long range missles Shihab-3 to nuke Tel Aviv, Haifa and other cities;
7. Israel is gone, Iran opens the strait, America has no friend in the Middle East and its Navy goes back to US;
8. Later everyone starts asking - And where did Iran get the nukes? Wait a second.... From Russia?;

9. And Russia goes like - What? I have no idea what you people are talking about.... http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif

10. Then Russia moves in to the Middle East as a good guy to replace the USA.

11. And then all Arabs cheer and scream WELCOME, RUSSIA! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gif

[Elrathin]

Some wars are fought covertly.
Here's a plan:

...


6. Iran uses its long range missles Shihab-3 to nuke Tel Aviv, Haifa and other cities;

The minute Iran uses nukes against Israel, Iran is wiped off the face of the Earth. If Russia decides to join in, it will be wiped off the face of the Earth as well.

Enjoy Oblivion.

[December]

The minute Iran uses nukes against Israel, Iran is wiped off the face of the Earth. If Russia decides to join in, it will be wiped off the face of the Earth as well.

Enjoy Oblivion.

Get the facts - Russia WILL nuke ANY country if that country threatens her allies.
Iran is Russia's ally.

Russia ready to use nuclear weapons if threatened - army chief

14:01 | 19/ 01/ 2008

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MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's top military commander said on Saturday that the country is prepared to use its nuclear weapons to defend itself and allies in the event of a severe external threat.

The Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow: "We do not intend to attack anyone, but consider it necessary that all our partners clearly understand, and that no one has any doubts, that the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080119/97339084.html


FROM ISRAEL NEWS:

Russian army chief: We'll use nuclear weapons if threatened
General Yuri Baluyevsky says Moscow has no plans to attack anyone, but could use nuclear weapons in preventive strikes in case of a major threat

Associated Press Published: 01.19.08, 12:04 / Israel News

Russia's military chief of staff said Saturday that Moscow could use nuclear weapons in preventive strikes in case of a major threat, the latest aggressive remarks from increasingly assertive Russian authorities.
Foreign affairs minister meets with Russia's Lavrov in Moscow, slams shipments of fuel to Bushehr nuclear plant despite Tehran's refusal to stop enriching uranium.
"We have no plans to attack anyone, but we consider it necessary for all our partners in the world community to clearly understand ... that to defend the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, military forces will be used, including preventively, including with the use of nuclear weapons," General Yuri Baluyevsky said.


Russian army prepares for nuclear onslaught

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29/ 01/ 2008

MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti political commentator Andrei Kislyakov) - Barely a month into the new year, the military have already attracted a lot of attention. Following a mild verbal skirmish over ABM components after the holidays, Russian and foreign generals have decided to talk in the open.

In a move that mirrors recent discussion amongst Russia's own top brass, NATO's April summit in Bucharest is widely expected to discuss a report on a potential pre-emptive nuclear strike.

According to The Daily Telegraph, the authors of the report are convinced there is a real risk that terrorists could lay their hands on weapons of mass destruction in the near or immediate future. To counter this, the alliance may consider suppressing the enemy with nuclear weapons.

Though the report is likely to cause controversy in NATO countries, the authors appear to be merely echoing an idea originally broached by Russian Chief of General Staff Yury Baluyevsky. Speaking at a meeting of the Academy of Military Sciences on January 19, Gen. Baluyevsky declared that force should be used not only in the course of hostilities, but also to demonstrate the readiness of leaders to uphold their national interests. "We are not going to attack anyone," he reassured his audience, "but we want all our partners to realize that Russia will use armed force to defend its own and its allies' sovereignty and territorial integrity. It may resort to a pre-emptive nuclear strike in cases specified by its doctrine."

It is strange that many esteemed domestic military experts consider this statement simply a repetition of Russia's old military doctrine, which allowed it to use nuclear weapons first. Under the 2000 doctrine, Russia is ready to use nuclear weapons not only in retaliation against a nuclear attack, as was previously the case, but in response to "a large-scale conventional aggression in a situation critical for the national security of the Russian Federation and its allies." This certainly broadens the rules of engagement, but still does not envisage a pre-emptive nuclear strike without hostilities.

Gen. Balulevsky's announcement appears to change this, in which case Russia will need a new military doctrine. This is not a new task. In early March last year, the Security Council press service released a statement saying that the Security Council would revise the 2000 military doctrine to account for new realities. The statement added that the new doctrine would be drafted by the Security Council in conjunction with interested government bodies and a number of scientific institutions.

READ MORE - http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080129/97936766.html

[Elrathin]

Get the facts - Russia WILL nuke ANY country if that country threatens her allies.
Iran is Russia's ally.


And get the facts straight, the U.S. will nuke any country that nukes Israel.

If Russian and Iran wanna play endgame, fine, I'm not afraid to die. Are you? Bring it !

[apdst]

Russia WILL use nuclear weapons, Elrathin.

No they fuckin' won't! The Russians are all inbred mogoloids, but they're not that friggin' stupid. There's no way they'll start a shit storm like that over the likes of the Iranians.

[preservanation]

Some wars are fought covertly.
Here's a plan:

1. Israeli war planes bomb Iran's n. sites;
2. Iran blocks the strait with mines;
3. American ships are stuck;
4. There is panick in USA;
5. Israel wants to help US and strikes Iran's capital;
6. Iran uses its long range missles Shihab-3 to nuke Tel Aviv, Haifa and other cities;
7. Israel is gone, Iran opens the strait, America has no friend in the Middle East and its Navy goes back to US;
8. Later everyone starts asking - And where did Iran get the nukes? Wait a second.... From Russia?;

9. And Russia goes like - What? I have no idea what you people are talking about.... http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif

10. Then Russia moves in to the Middle East as a good guy to replace the USA.

11. And then all Arabs cheer and scream WELCOME, RUSSIA! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gifNice to see how you managed to disarm your emoticons as well.

December...you are a hoot, in the good sense.
Keep weaving your imaginary scenarios and please don't hesitate to share them with me.
I envy your imagination!
:clapper:
~p

[apdst]

Keep posting this sort of statements.....

And what's gonna happen?

[Phyxius]

To show that Russia is behind Iran. Iran is Russia's ally.

Russia will use nuclear weapons if Iran attacked by ANY country. :)

Unfortunately for Russia, so do we. And, unlike Russia, we've actually had the budget to MAINTAIN ours. Your military knows this, and that's why you'll stay out of it and bitch from the sidelines if something goes down. This isn't 1980, December. The days that RUSSIA (or any variant thereof) could stand toe to toe with the US are LOOOOOOOONG over. :fight:

[Rage]

Some wars are fought covertly.
Here's a plan:

1. Israeli war planes bomb Iran's n. sites;
2. Iran blocks the strait with mines;
3. American ships are stuck;
4. There is panick in USA;
5. Israel wants to help US and strikes Iran's capital;
6. Iran uses its long range missles Shihab-3 to nuke Tel Aviv, Haifa and other cities;
7. Israel is gone, Iran opens the strait, America has no friend in the Middle East and its Navy goes back to US;
8. Later everyone starts asking - And where did Iran get the nukes? Wait a second.... From Russia?;

9. And Russia goes like - What? I have no idea what you people are talking about.... http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif

10. Then Russia moves in to the Middle East as a good guy to replace the USA.

11. And then all Arabs cheer and scream WELCOME, RUSSIA! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gif

In a dream world maybe. The United States has the strongest Navy in this world. I don't care what anyone in this world says, I have family who have been in it. December, you think Russia is so much smarter than america? My father took pictures of you guys, IN YOUR HARBORS during the cold war and you never knew they were there.

The bombing of Russia wouldn't stop until its people have felt the hellish flames of our military might, and then drown in the waters of the ice caps as they melt over that country and then freeze.

I can paint you a better picture of slaughter and sorrow if you please. Post anything that Russia has that is superior to a dead possum catapult.

[Phyxius]

I find it interesting that this is one area that Democrats and Republicans can agree on here. It would be a VERY bad move for the Russians to even THINK about starting any shit with the United States... http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/Hasatude5150/bringit.gif

[Rage]

And libertarians. But I have to say, I think the democrats would only agree to it if the corporate tax was raised to 110% and the war lasted 50 seconds with no casualties. lol :jokes:

[BoogyMan]

Some wars are fought covertly.
Here's a plan:

1. Israeli war planes bomb Iran's n. sites;
2. Iran blocks the strait with mines;
3. American ships are stuck;
4. There is panick in USA;
5. Israel wants to help US and strikes Iran's capital;
6. Iran uses its long range missles Shihab-3 to nuke Tel Aviv, Haifa and other cities;
7. Israel is gone, Iran opens the strait, America has no friend in the Middle East and its Navy goes back to US;
8. Later everyone starts asking - And where did Iran get the nukes? Wait a second.... From Russia?;

9. And Russia goes like - What? I have no idea what you people are talking about.... http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif

10. Then Russia moves in to the Middle East as a good guy to replace the USA.

11. And then all Arabs cheer and scream WELCOME, RUSSIA! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_65.gif


Is this the equivalent of a "we will be seen as liberators" type of comment?

My, how some folks forget...

[Phyxius]

And libertarians. But I have to say, I think the democrats would only agree to it if the corporate tax was raised to 110% and the war lasted 50 seconds with no casualties. lol :jokes:

+1. That was funny... :madlaugh:

[Easy90]

It's Interesting that December has "the plan"....

I used to really be privy to "the plan" that the US had to destroy Russia (USSR)....
Glad we didn't actually have to use it...but I am sure it's still in the books.

The USSR had a "plan" to subdue Afghanistan too...and that little backward country kicked their worthless Bolshevik asses back to Russia. It took the US about what...5 days to overcome Afghanistan? And we had to fly missions from Missouri over there to do it...

[Elrathin]

Doesn't Russia first have to collect all the nukes they lost before they could launch an attack though? hehehe

http://www.news24.com/News24/AnanziArticle/0,,2-10-1462_1665376,00.html

[PostmodernProphet]

11. And then all Arabs cheer and scream WELCOME, RUSSIA!especially the Afghans.....


Quote:
Originally Posted by apdst http://www.democracyforums.com/images/democracy/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?p=208197#post208197)
Explain it? Ok. Closing off the straits would be an act of war. At that point, we would have more than enough reason to stick missiles up their asses.

Act of war against whom?

I guess that would depend on who's ship they attacked in closing off the straits.....UAE, perhaps.....Saudis?.....China?......US?.....half the countries in the world run ships through there.....

[jafar00]

Explain it? Ok. Closing off the straits would be an act of war. At that point, we would have more than enough reason to stick missiles up their asses.

If you don't want them to do it, then don't attack them.

[DamnYankee]

If Iran blocks the Strait of Hormuz then US economy goes waaaaaaaay South. A civil disorder will follow, so start packing some dry food, fuel, medicine and weapons, people....

It's going to take lots of those highly advanced Iranian speedboats to do the trick. Perfect time for our sailors to get a little target practice.

[apdst]

If you don't want them to do it, then don't attack them.

That's a moot statement. If we attacked them, they wouldn't have the combat power to close off the straits.

[December]

Iran said that it will close the strait of Hormuz IF "Iran's regional interests are jeopardized".
I assume they were referring to the Israel's threats to bomb Iran's n. sites. Could Israel actually in violation of all international laws bomb another country?
Well, Israel did it before in 1981:

1981: Israel bombs Baghdad nuclear reactor
The Israelis have bombed a French-built nuclear plant near Iraq's capital, Baghdad, saying they believed it was designed to make nuclear weapons to destroy Israel.
It is the world's first air strike against a nuclear plant.
An undisclosed number of F-15 interceptors and F-16 fighter bombers destroyed the Osirak reactor 18 miles south of Baghdad, on the orders of Prime Minister Menachem Begin.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm

So..... if the Jewish state did it before then they could do it again.
Now the question is - what will Iran do in response? I think Iran will mine the Strait of Hormuz. This will bring all oil shipment to US to a complete stop.

What do you think America is going to do in this situation??


Chief of Staff of Iran's Armed Forces says the Islamic Republic will close the Strait of Hormuz if its interests are placed in jeopardy.
"The Strait of Hormuz is a strategic waterway and it is therefore very important for us to keep it open," Major General Hassan Firouzabadi said on Sunday.
"It should be made clear that we will not allow anyone to pass through the waterway, if Iran's regional interests are jeopardized," he added.
The top Iranian commander said the US government is 'trapped in the jaws of global Zionism', concluding that the American nation and military forces should not be sacrificed for unworthy rulers serving the interests of Zionism.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=62662&sectionid=351020101

[PostmodernProphet]

Well, Israel did it before in 1981:not to mention 2007.....


What do you think America is going to do in this situation??

sweep the mines might be a good start....

[DamnYankee]

not to mention 2007.....

sweep the mines might be a good start....

Then sink the Iranian navy, whatever that is.

[preservanation]

Then sink the Iranian navy, whatever that is.Five screaming banshees in cigarette boats.
Iran will have to figure out how to run them on crude oil though...

[December]

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

08/ 07/ 2008

TEHRAN, July 8 (RIA Novosti) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Tuesday that the U.S. was currently incapable of launching an attack on the Islamic Republic, Iranian national media reported.
He made the remark in Kuala Lumpur, the capital of Malaysia, during a Developing Eight summit. It came amid growing speculation over a possible Israeli or U.S. attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

'The economic, political and military capacities of the U.S. will not allow [U.S. President] Bush to attack Iran," he said.

The Israeli Air Force conducted military exercises involving over 100 Israeli fighters in early June. The exercises were widely seen as a 'dress rehearsal' for an attack on Iran. George Bush has refused to rule out the "military option" in the long-running dispute over Iran's nuclear program.
Ahmadinejad said however that there were no signs of an imminent armed conflict, and labeled the rumors "propaganda."
The Iranian leader also said there were "many clever people in the U.S. and they will not allow President Bush to commit political suicide."

READ MORE - http://en.rian.ru/world/20080708/113527676.html

[Elrathin]

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

They said the same thing about Iraq. We toppled it in about 3 days.

We may not be able to clean the mess up we make, but we can sure bomb the hell out it and Iran is no different.

[December]

They said the same thing about Iraq. We toppled it in about 3 days.
We may not be able to clean the mess up we make, but we can sure bomb the hell out it and Iran is no different.

Iraq was isolated from the rest of the world for 13 years. Remember that? Does UN Food for Oil program ring a bell?
Iraqi army didn't even have spare parts to fix OLD Soviet tanks.

[jafar00]

They said the same thing about Iraq. We toppled it in about 3 days.

Yeah, after a decade of crippling sanctions and daily bombing runs whenever their radar painted your aircraft.

[potter]

Explain it? Ok. Closing off the straits would be an act of war. At that point, we would have more than enough reason to stick missiles up their asses.

Shooting down an Iranian airliner is also an act of war.

[December]

They said the same thing about Iraq. We toppled it in about 3 days.

Iraq was isolated from the rest of the world for 13 years. Remember that? Does UN Food for Oil program ring a bell?
Iraqi army didn't even have spare parts to fix OLD Soviet tanks.

Yeah, after a decade of crippling sanctions and daily bombing runs whenever their radar painted your aircraft.

Elrathin, how old are you? Did you know there were sanctions and Iraq could do anything to improve its military?

[Elrathin]

Elrathin, how old are you? Did you know there were sanctions and Iraq could do anything to improve its military?

December, I am older than you that is for sure for your rosey picture of Russia and Iran that is for sure. lol.

[Pookie]

Oh, poo. This is just a bunch of fear-mongering. Give it time, and wait and see. Iran won't do it.
And I repeat, give it time and we will see.
Purrs,
Pookie

[Matt W]

Mmm. Iran could do it, I'm sure, but that is asking for it's naval resources to be battered beyond all recognition by the US & Gulf States. As for nukes, all this rhetoric is somewhat unnecessary given that Iran doesn't have them...so long-range strikes on Tel Aviv, etc, as foretold by December, just won't happen.

[jafar00]

Mmm. Iran could do it, I'm sure, but that is asking for it's naval resources to be battered beyond all recognition by the US & Gulf States. As for nukes, all this rhetoric is somewhat unnecessary given that Iran doesn't have them...so long-range strikes on Tel Aviv, etc, as foretold by December, just won't happen.

Iran will launch missiles IF attacked, that is for sure. You can also say goodbye to the US fleet. It will last no more than 25 minutes.

[PostmodernProphet]

one thing for sure.....this threat to close the Strait is evidence that Iran must NOT be allowed a nuclear weapon.......if they had one, they COULD close the strait and nobody could stop them......

[preservanation]

Iran will launch missiles IF attacked, that is for sure. You can also say goodbye to the US fleet. It will last no more than 25 minutes.If this is true...then it's too late?
We should just let them continue to produce nuclear arms in the hope that as soon as they do...they'll turn into kittens?

This is an idle threat to buy time just so they can get stronger to the point that it really is too late.
Shut them down now.
Bush should support a strike now.
Obama, if elected, sure won't do it and the corrupt and ineffectual UN is only going to use the issue to line their own pockets and to strengthen more fascist dictators.
Israel...Pull the trigger.

[DANG]

This isn't 1980, December. The days that RUSSIA (or any variant thereof) could stand toe to toe with the US are LOOOOOOOONG over. :fight:
China also has interests in Iran. If we couldnt beat a broken Iraq......

[Elrathin]

If we couldnt beat a broken Iraq......

No, we beat Iraq militarily. What we couldn't do was clean up the mess. Bombing and destroying other conventional forces is a U.S. military specialty and they do it VERY well.

[DANG]

You guys are missing the operative term in the statement: Chief of Staff of Iran's Armed Forces says the Islamic Republic will close the Strait of Hormuz if its interests are placed in jeopardy. Thats a big IF.
Iran is not talking about pre-emptive action. Its talking DEFENSE.

Its OUR job (and Israels) to screw everything up. We have a history of butting in to other peoples business.

We could call it a pre-emptive war on terror. STAYING THE FUCK HOME!!
and MYOB!!

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/87/smallstopterrorvv1.jpg

[DANG]

No, we beat Iraq militarily.
We lost on every level when we shot the wrong target.

[Phyxius]

Iran will launch missiles IF attacked, that is for sure. You can also say goodbye to the US fleet. It will last no more than 25 minutes.

Ummmm. No.

As bad an idea as I think an attack on Iran would be, I have no doubts we COULD take it. Holding it would be another problem, but taking it? Nah. We'd do it with as many or fewer casualties as the first two weeks of this war. There's not a single piece of real-estate on the planet the American miltary couldn't take. It's HOLDING that real-estate that's the sticky part...

[brien]

Many leaders of Iran are puffed up wanna be's whose self importance is only exceeded by the amount of oil under their asses. And as for Russia, the Russians beat themselves with totalitarian communism in the Soviet Union without the US ever firing one round of ammunition, and they are supposed to be the smart guy here? Please.

Russia isn't going to risk global warfare over oil, or Iran, in the ME They have all the oil in their own backyard their economy ever needs right now. So then, what is their interest in the ME? To merely say they are allies of Iran isn't enough. They have no strategic interest in the ME except to oppose the US and the West.

European NATO nations draw far more oil from the ME than does the US, so if Iran foolishly tries to block the Straits of Hormuz, they will be confronted by the NATO nations in the UN immediately and if they didn't back down, they would be summarliy defeated and left to lick their wounds as did Saddam when he invaded Kuwait.


Wanna see the European Union nations come together to oppose Iran, and its allies in the ME, then block the Straits, and watch the polarization begin against countries like Iran, Syria, and Russia.

[PostmodernProphet]

European NATO nations draw far more oil from the ME than does the US, so if Iran foolishly tries to block the Straits of Hormuz, they will be confronted by the NATO nations in the UN immediately and if they didn't back down, they would be summarliy defeated and left to lick their wounds as did Saddam when he invaded Kuwait.

my assumption would be that European nations would ship their ME oil north through the Suez Canal rather than south through the Straits and around Africa......