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December
07-03-2008, 10:07 PM
The Russian president is right - the USA must mind its own business and should not stick its nose into every hole it can find.....
Thu, 03 Jul 2008
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Russian president Dmitry Medvedev
Moscow scoffs at a US call on the G8 to exclude Russia for its different democratic values from those of the group's other seven members.
"It's totally obvious that any notion of excluding Russia or putting pressure on Russia appears simply not serious," Russian president Dmitry Medvedev was quoted by AFP as saying on Thursday.
In October 2007, US Republican presidential candidate John McCain said that if elected he would push to exclude Russia from the Group of Eight to punish Moscow for rolling back political freedoms.
Speaking to journalists, Medvedev earlier said the US in 'essentially a depression' is in no position to advise other countries on their affairs.
He added that a revived Russia had a right to assume a larger role in a world economic system that should no longer be dominated by the United States
Medvedev argued that the question of democracy was irrelevant to the G8 and, that the United States had more pressing matters to attend to.
“The Group of Eight exists not because someone likes or dislikes it, but because objectively, they are the biggest world economies and the most serious players from the foreign policy point of view,” the Russian president stressed.
Medvedev also warned against any attempts to put restrictions on his country for it would 'damage the entire world order'.
"I am sure that any administration of the United States of America, if it wishes to succeed, among other things, in overcoming essentially a depression that exists in the American economic market, must conduct a pragmatic policy inside the country and abroad," he added.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=62371§ionid=351020602
BoogyMan
07-04-2008, 12:57 AM
Putin's sock puppet, Medvedev, speaks!
I don't guess Medvedev knows what a depression is.
Egads.....
December
07-05-2008, 04:07 PM
Dmitry Medvedev's interview with G8 media
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/07/02/world/02medvedev-600.jpg
Part 1
YouTube - Dmitry Medvedev's interview with G8 media, Part 1
The U.S reserves the right to jam our hot boot up Medvedev's sliver spooned ass. Of course we can advise.
December
07-06-2008, 10:29 PM
McCain would exclude Russia from G8 nations
Mon Oct 15, 2007
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain said on Monday if elected he would push to exclude Russia from the Group of Eight conclave of major industrial nations to punish Moscow for rolling back political freedoms.
"We need a new Western approach to this revanchist Russia," McCain wrote in a Foreign Affairs magazine article outlining his views on foreign policy looking ahead to the November 2008 election. The Group of Eight, known as the G8, includes the United States, Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Canada, Japan and Russia. Their leaders gather each year in one of their countries to discuss major economic and political challenges facing the globe.
Russia is a fairly recent entry into the group, joining the Group of Seven in 1997, and President Vladimir Putin played host to the annual G8 summit in St. Petersburg in 2006.
READ MORE - http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1536962020071015?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
I have a message for Mr.McCain - Hey, John McCain, shut the f*ck up!
July 6, 2008
Sunday
Dmitry Medvedev arrived in Japan to attend the G8 summit.
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The G8 summit will be held on July 7–9 in Toyako, island of Hokkaido.
http://kremlin.ru/eng/sdocs/themes.shtml#203707
Russia's Medvedev arrives for G8 summit in Japan
17:42 | 06/ 07/ 2008
TOYAKO (Japan), July 6 (RIA Novosti) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev arrived on Sunday in Japan's northernmost Island of Hokkaido for a summit of the G8 group of industrialized nations.
The annual summit of the Group of Eight leading industrialized nations - the U.S., the U.K., Italy, Canada, Russia, France, Germany and Japan will be held on July 7-9 to discuss the world economy, environmental concerns, African development and other pressing issues.
As part of the G8 summit, Medvedev is to meet with U.S. President George W. Bush, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, French President Nicholas Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda, and South Korean President Lee Myung-bak.
At a meeting with his U.S. counterpart, Medvedev is expected to discuss security, U.S. missile shield plans for Europe, trade and energy issues, presidential aide Sergei Prikhodko said on the eve of the summit.
READ MORE - http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080706/113224169.html
December
07-07-2008, 05:07 PM
Bush is known in Europe and the rest of the world as goofy clown.
John McCain (if elected) will be known as angry clown. In fact, DMITRY MEDVEDEV is already laughing at him saying that It is very clear that the idea of excluding Russia or putting pressure on Russia simply cannot be taken seriously.
Source:
Interview with journalists from the G8 countries
July 3, 2008
Recorded on July 1 in Moscow
CLIFFORD J. LEVY: Mr President, I want to ask a question about John McCain. You know that McCain proposed excluding Russia from the G8. Do you think that if McCain wins the election it will be difficult to establish good relations between Russia and the USA?
DMITRY MEDVEDEV: I think that the American economy’s ability to resist crises, and this is something the treasury secretary, Mr Paulson, spoke eloquently about yesterday, is linked to the fact that overall, the United States tries to follow a balanced policy. This policy should not depend on who stands at the helm. I do not want to comment therefore on individual statements related to the election campaign. As far as I know, no one has said anything specifically about this lately. It is very clear that the idea of excluding Russia or putting pressure on Russia simply cannot be taken seriously. The G8 does not exist because of someone’s likes or dislikes, but because these are objectively the biggest economies and biggest players in terms of foreign policy influence. Attempts to restrict anyone in this capacity would at the very least be damaging to the entire world order.
I think there is nothing more I can really say on this subject. I am sure that any administration in the United States, if it wants to achieve success, including in overcoming what is essentially a depression on its economic market today, will have to follow a pragmatic line both at home and abroad.
http://kremlin.ru/eng/speeches/2008/07/03/1850_type82916_203509.shtml
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Medvedev brushes aside Russia's critics ahead of G8
YouTube - Medvedev brushes aside Russia's critics ahead of G8
Truth_and_Power
07-07-2008, 05:17 PM
Will the russian people be the last to be free?
December
07-07-2008, 05:21 PM
Will the russian people be the last to be free?
I think you are confused.
Russia is no longer under Zionist control. America is still under Zionist control. Zionist McCain is not happy about Russia being free so he makes angry but silly statements. :)
In Russia John McCain is known as angry clown.
Truth_and_Power
07-07-2008, 05:35 PM
I think you are confused.
Russia is no longer under Zionist control. America is still under Zionist control. Zionist McCain is not happy about Russia being free so he makes angry but silly statements. :)
In Russia John McCain is known as angry clown.
I understand it's important to call people names and such.. but atleast here we have some chance to vote for a candidate we approve of. In russia you have.. whoever they give you.
heyjude
07-07-2008, 05:42 PM
It is up to the Russian people to decide what sort of government they want. And yes, they do have the power to change. They have done it before. They will embrace democracy at their own speed, when they are ready.
We have the obnoxious habit of trying to force our will on other people. This only increases resentment. The dislike of the US in Russia is very high at this time, and the harder we push, the more Russia will resist. The quickest way to get what we want is to leave the people in Russia alone, and they will proceed at their own pace. In other words, MOOB.
December
07-07-2008, 06:07 PM
I understand it's important to call people names and such.. but atleast here we have some chance to vote for a candidate we approve of. In russia you have.. whoever they give you.
Zionism is political movement and not name-calling. You have been on this forum since May 2007, so you should know it by now. As for McCain being an angry clown well, this is how people in Russia describe him.
Again, Russia is FREE from Zionist control, Russia is moving forward and America is moving to the opposite derection and this is what makes Zionists like McCain angry.
Medvedev: U.S. plans to deploy AMD in Lithuania "unacceptable"
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Russian President Dmitry Mevedev has expressed his concern to George W. Bush over Washington's plans to use Lithuania as a launchpad for its missiles. The two presidents discussed the countries' long-running dispute on the first day of the G8 summit in Japan.
Leaders of the world's eight biggest powers have gathered at a resort in Hokkaido, Japan, for talks likely to be dominated by rising food prices and the global economy.
Medvedev told George W. Bush at their one-to-one meeting that the idea of creating a missile base in Lithuania as an alternative to plans for Poland would be 'absolutely unacceptable' to Russia.
Russian Presidential aid Prikhodko also stressed the discussions on missile defence had produced "no real progress," but said "working-level contacts on this problem are ongoing."
The two presidents also discussed Iran, Georgia and mutual trade and investment.
The annual summit brings together the leaders of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United States. This year, leaders of another 15 countries including several African states have been invited.
Japan had put climate change high on the summit's agenda, but global economic troubles and rising food prices are widely expected to overshadow other issues.
For Russian President Dmitry Medevedev it's the first summit as the country's leader.
On the sidelines of the summit, he met British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. The relations between the two countries are at a low point, strained by issues like the British Council row, the Aleksandr Litvinenko case and the latest TNK-BP dispute.
READ MORE - http://russiatoday.com/news/news/27086
From Yahoo News:
Bush: Russia's new president is 'smart guy'
In their first sit down as heads of state, Bush called Medvedev a "smart" guy who is well versed in foreign policy. Medvedev casually referred to Bush as "George." Yet they inched no closer on the missile defense issue during their more than hour-long discussion on the sidelines of a summit here.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080707/ap_on_re_as/bush_g8
heyjude
07-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Did Bush look into his eyes and see his soul and declare it good?
Truth_and_Power
07-07-2008, 06:40 PM
Russia's government may be free from the nasty jews and their marionette strings, however the russian people are not free at all. Myself, I'm more concerned with the lives of people than the farings of governments and so forth..
December
07-07-2008, 07:37 PM
......... however the russian people are not free at all. Myself, I'm more concerned with the lives of people than the farings of governments and so forth..
Well, I am not sure why do you concern about Russian people, but sounds like you have very little idea about today's Russia.
Now, do you have an opinion about the subject in question?
Topic of this thread - Russia: US in no position to advise.
Do you support John McCain's call to exclude Russia from G8 and why?
December
07-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Did Bush look into his eyes and see his soul and declare it good?
Bush said that Medvedev is very clever. I think you missed it:
From Yahoo News:
Bush: Russia's new president is 'smart guy'
In their first sit down as heads of state, Bush called Medvedev a "smart" guy who is well versed in foreign policy. Medvedev casually referred to Bush as "George." Yet they inched no closer on the missile defense issue during their more than hour-long discussion on the sidelines of a summit here.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080707/ap_on_re_as/bush_g8
But why does it matter what Bush has to say? Here are videos for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhbPVrb5KM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnjuJ1pbmc
December
07-07-2008, 07:52 PM
Medvedev: U.S. plans to deploy AMD in Lithuania "unacceptable"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39aZSm9hx4
Truth_and_Power
07-07-2008, 08:01 PM
Could you do me a favor and stop reposting the same articles in what ideally would be an actual debate? I do agree that we should treat non-democracies differently. When will russia let its people vote on candidates of their choosing?
December
07-07-2008, 09:40 PM
Truth_and_Power, are you avoiding my questions?
Do you support John McCain's call to exclude Russia from G8 and why?
December
07-08-2008, 04:51 PM
After the end of the Second World War (WWII) Russia (as USSR back then) still didn't sign a peace treaty with Japan. So technically speaking, Russia and Japan are still at war with each other....
July 8, 2008 13:00
Tuesday
TOYAKO ONSEN, HOKKAIDO, JAPAN. Dmitry Medvedev met with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda.
Dmitry Medvedev and Yasuo Fukuda continued discussions on a peace treaty.
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July 8, 2008
TOYAKO ONSEN, HOKKAIDO, JAPAN. Meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda.
The Russian head of state confirmed the conviction in Russia that patient and peaceful dialogue with Japan would resolve the territorial problem. On the Russian side, it was stressed that an atmosphere of trust between Russia and Japan is crucial for resolving such a difficult problem. Such trust can be established by the expansion of economic, regional and other ties.
A significant part of the conversation was devoted to cooperation in investment. The Russian side welcomed the decision of the Japanese Lending Bank to allocate resources to finance the second stage of the Sakhalin-2 project. Dmitry Medvedev welcomed the Japanese side's plans to get involved in the programme for development of the Russian Far East and Eastern Siberia. Dmitry Medvedev and Yasuo Fukuda were in favour of extending programmes for cooperation in adjacent areas of Russia and Japan.
The Prime Minister of Japan raised the issue of green investment, investments in environmentally safe production and the usefulness of Japanese experience in this field.
There was also a discussion of transport routes and the use of Russia's Trans-Siberian Railway.
Dmitry Medvedev and Jasuo Fukuda agreed to meet in the context of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, which will be held in November in Peru.
Dmitry Medvedev thanked Yasuo Fukuda for the assistance that Japanese doctors are currently providing a Russian boy from Sakhalin. Vladimir Novikov suffered severe burns as a result of a fire a few days ago and was taken to a burn center on the island of Hokkaido for an operation.
READ MORE -- http://kremlin.ru/eng/sdocs/news.shtml#203827
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Presidential Candidate John McCain: "We need a new Western approach to this revanchist Russia"
READ MORE - McCain would exclude Russia from G8 nations http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1536962020071015?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
http://www.johnmccain.com
December
07-09-2008, 08:02 PM
Dmitry Medvedev's G8 speech
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aA7APRCrZyk
Presidential Candidate John McCain: "We need a new Western approach to this revanchist Russia"
READ MORE - McCain would exclude Russia from G8 nations http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1536962020071015?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
http://www.johnmccain.com
brien
07-09-2008, 09:29 PM
As if the Russians are in a position to advise anyone on anything? The Russian President would do well to mind his own business as well, as it seems his population puts more faith in alcohol they they probably do in him. They may have solved all of their domestic problems in their own drunken stupors, but they aren't fooling anyone but themselves. LOL Happy days are here again comrade! Salude!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article1647475.ece
The TimesApril 13, 2007
Russians have gone on an alcohol binge remarkable even by their own formidable standards, according to the country’s chief public health officer.
The average Russian consumes almost three times as much alcohol as he did 16 years ago. A report by Gennadi Onishenko, head of the consumer protection agency, found that Russians drink 15 litres (26 pints) of pure alcohol per year, or half a pint a week, compared with 5.4 litres in 1990. That far exceeds the estimate of 9.7 litres made in 2005. The study calculated that at least 2.3 million people in Russia were alcoholics, and blamed rising mortality rates, particularly among men, on drink.
It voiced alarm that more children were becoming dependent on alcohol, noting that the age at which juveniles started to drink had slipped from 16 to as low as 13. “The ever-higher consumption of alcohol by adolescents and women is especially worrying,” Mr Onishenko said.
While Russians’ love for vodka is undiminished, beer consumption has risen sharply, encouraged by advertisements portraying it as fashionable, the study notes. The popularity of beer among the young created further potential for “mass alcoholism”.Sales of beer and other lower alcohol drinks have tripled since 1998 and accounted for 75 per cent of the 12 billion litres of alcohol sold in Russia last year. Vodka represented 16 per cent of sales by volume, double the level for wines.
Deaths caused directly by alcohol poisoning fell but alcohol-related illnesses continued to account for one in eight of all deaths in Russia.
Alcohol dependence is seen as central to the country’s demographic crisis; the population is declining by 700,000 a year and male life expectancy has fallen to less than 59 years, compared with 72 for women. Russia also suffers significant economic damage because of alcohol abuse among workers.
Mr Onishenko called for a campaign to reduce alcoholism and to improve education. His appeal is likely to fall on deaf ears. Soviet leaders, notably Mikhail Gorbachev, tried without success to curb Russians’ thirst for alcohol.
The Government’s strict licensing system, introduced under pressure from President Putin, prompted concern that poorer people were risking their lives by drinking cleaning fluids as vodka prices rose to pay for the new licences.
Round of drinks
Annual alcohol consumption, litres per head
15: Russia
11.2: UK
9.8: Australia
8.4: US
7.6: Japan
1.5: Turkey
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