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Fear
09-29-2006, 03:04 PM
I’m sure nobody can deny that lately the growth of illegal Muslim immigration in Europe has led to spreading popularity of nationalist ideas in our society. And as a result of it Europe has not only faced the growth of fanatically violent Muslim groups in our towns and cities, but also it has met with the strengthening of ultra-right parties and expansion of their representation in parliaments of some European countries (for instance, recent success of the ultra-Rights during regional elections in Germany). But it is a one-way ticket to changing of European humane traditions and values. And in this case enforcement of EU immigration laws is only one of ways for restricting Muslim immigration. I fully agree with those heads of European countries (France, Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal, Cyprus and Malta), who, acting together through the EU, have proposed to work out complex of urgent collective measures for stopping of illegal immigration in Europe. We should set a reliable defense screen on the way of illegal immigrants who then in most cases become the basis of various extremist organizations on our territory.

CheesyMuslim
09-29-2006, 03:17 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But yes I agree, do something, even if its wrong!
2. They will over run your who health care system with cranking out babies, fifteen per couple, then vote you out of office.
3. Baby Wars.
4. Never doubt me.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Elrathin
09-29-2006, 03:23 PM
1. But yes I agree, do something, even if its wrong!


So, then your in support of hate crimes against Muslims just because they are muslims then?

Mayberry
09-29-2006, 05:59 PM
Stopping illegal immigration is a hate crime? Defending your country and it's laws is a hate crime? I guess we should all just give up now, dissolve all nations and be one big happy New World Order then. BARRRRRRRFFFF!!!

Elrathin
09-29-2006, 06:58 PM
Stopping illegal immigration is a hate crime? Defending your country and it's laws is a hate crime? I guess we should all just give up now, dissolve all nations and be one big happy New World Order then. BARRRRRRRFFFF!!!


When you ONLY FOCUS ON MUSLIM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, YES IT IS A HATE CRIME. ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE FOUGHT, not just the Muslims.

Rider
09-29-2006, 07:38 PM
Elrathin wrote- When you ONLY FOCUS ON MUSLIM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, YES IT IS A HATE CRIME. ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE FOUGHT, not just the Muslims.

Actually no, it is not a hate crime. No statute exists that would make that action on the part of the federal government a hate crime. You might wish it to be, but it isn't.

Actually it would be an extremely rational policy.

Elrathin
09-29-2006, 07:40 PM
Elrathin wrote- When you ONLY FOCUS ON MUSLIM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, YES IT IS A HATE CRIME. ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE FOUGHT, not just the Muslims.

Actually no, it is not a hate crime. No statute exists that would make that action on the part of the federal government a hate crime. You might wish it to be, but it isn't.

Actually it would be an extremely rational policy.


Yeah so if police only arrested black people and excluded whites, it wouldn't be a hate crime and it would be a raitional policy using YOUR logic as well.

That is what I am getting at and that is what you are missing.Â*Â*Going after JUST MUSLIMS is not the answer to illegal immigration sorry.

Rider
09-29-2006, 08:17 PM
Elrathin wrote- Yeah so if police only arrested black people and excluded whites, it wouldn't be a hate crime and it would be a raitional policy using YOUR logic as well.

That is what I am getting at and that is what you are missing.Â*Â*Going after JUST MUSLIMS is not the answer to illegal immigration sorry.
Maybe I missed the point of this thread. I thought it was about Muslim immigration issues in Europe, not about illegal immigration per se. Going after Muslims would certainly be a rational approach to problems related to Muslim immigration, no?

As for the black/white/police blah, blah... where'd that come from?

Elrathin
09-29-2006, 08:20 PM
As for the black/white/police blah, blah... where'd that come from?


It's called a comparison, try it sometime.

Police arresting JUST BLACK people is similiar to only going after JUST MUSLIMS when the issue is much larger than that.

Labrocca
09-29-2006, 09:41 PM
Stopping illegal immigration is a hate crime? Defending your country and it's laws is a hate crime? I guess we should all just give up now, dissolve all nations and be one big happy New World Order then. BARRRRRRRFFFF!!!


When you ONLY FOCUS ON MUSLIM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, YES IT IS A HATE CRIME.Â*Â*ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE FOUGHT, not just the Muslims.


So let's turn them away with love so it's not a hate crime. :)

btw poster is most likely part of the propaganda campaign. Interesting post to get you guys to debate.


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bobbylien
09-30-2006, 12:41 AM
2. They will over run your who health care system with cranking out babies, fifteen per couple, then vote you out of office.

Most muslims are conservatives ya know chess. I have never met a liberal Muslim.

lily
09-30-2006, 01:36 AM
Ouch!