Bob Barr - How a Republican Took our Party

[Burning Giraffe]

In 2004, the Libertarian Party disgraced itself by nominating the wacky Michael BADnarick. Offering nothing but disaster, Badnarick and his crowd got smacked down by the party elites, who swung wildly (too wildly) in the other direction. And, because Wayne Root delegates handed Barr his victory over the truly wonderful Mary Ruwart, we've got to deal with Root too. Ugh.

But, its not as bad as all that. Bob Barr, Republican though he may be, is a thousand times better than John McCain or Chuck Baldwin; and that being that case, is one thousand times (+ one) better than Senator Obama. I see nothing but upside in voting for Bob Barr. It's basically just voting for a Republican who, if he were still a member of the Republican Party, would make the Republican Party respectable again. Sure he's a bit socially conservative, voting for the Patriot Act and so forth, but for the most part, he supports 80% of our political platform.

Now go look at McCain and Obama - how close are they to representing our positions?

[Milton Bradley]

I can't vote for anybody that would sign The Patriot Act.

[Buck Laser]

Personally, I think the libertarians deserve Bob Barr.

[Burning Giraffe]

I can't vote for anybody that would sign The Patriot Act.

Well, then you are writing someone in?

[PatrickHenry]

The Intolerable Act was ramrodded through a scared Congress.

Every Rep should have read it and debated it before they voted, but 2001's autumn was assaulted by the false-flag terrors of Arabs and anthrax.

So I think if a member is willing to recant, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, Milton.

[Milton Bradley]

The Intolerable Act was ramrodded through a scared Congress.

Every Rep should have read it and debated it before they voted, but 2001's autumn was assaulted by the false-flag terrors of Arabs and anthrax.

So I think if a member is willing to recant, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, Milton.


Did he change his position?


I thought I just read that he supported The Patriot Act.


If so, any enemy of the Constitution is an enemy of mine.

[Defensor]

In 2004, the Libertarian Party disgraced itself by nominating the wacky Michael BADnarick. Offering nothing but disaster, Badnarick and his crowd got smacked down by the party elites, who swung wildly (too wildly) in the other direction. And, because Wayne Root delegates handed Barr his victory over the truly wonderful Mary Ruwart, we've got to deal with Root too. Ugh.

But, its not as bad as all that. Bob Barr, Republican though he may be, is a thousand times better than John McCain or Chuck Baldwin; and that being that case, is one thousand times (+ one) better than Senator Obama. I see nothing but upside in voting for Bob Barr. It's basically just voting for a Republican who, if he were still a member of the Republican Party, would make the Republican Party respectable again. Sure he's a bit socially conservative, voting for the Patriot Act and so forth, but for the most part, he supports 80% of our political platform.

Now go look at McCain and Obama - how close are they to representing our positions?
How is Bob Barr at all better than Chuck Baldwin? :confused:

Baldwin's no libertarian but neither is Barr.

[Osborn F. Enready]

I couldn't vote for Baldwin due to his parties official stance on abortion, religion, etc.

[NortheastCynic]

Personally, I think the libertarians deserve Bob Barr.Okay, I'll be the one to ask. Why is that?

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[IndieVisible]

... Now go look at McCain and Obama - how close are they to representing our positions?

Obama is closer then McCain for me. Problem for me is I have no party that fits me perfectly. I am Liberal in almost every thing except abortion and guns. I can't understand why the conservatives should have exclusive rights on those issues.

I never liked the Libertarian Party. Too conservative for me. They closed the deal for me when they nominated Howard Stern for Governor. They lost all credibility for me. They are no different then the dems or reps. They will do any thing to get elected. This year they have a Republican. Whats next? They claim to be the third largest party, may be but that means 900 members here in NYS lol. I really wish we had a real alternative. Liberal yet anti abortion and pro guns. Oh well.

[Defensor]

Obama is closer then McCain for me. Problem for me is I have no party that fits me perfectly. I am Liberal in almost every thing except abortion and guns. I can't understand why the conservatives should have exclusive rights on those issues.

I never liked the Libertarian Party. Too conservative for me. They closed the deal for me when they nominated Howard Stern for Governor. They lost all credibility for me. They are no different then the dems or reps. They will do any thing to get elected. This year they have a Republican. Whats next? They claim to be the third largest party, may be but that means 900 members here in NYS lol. I really wish we had a real alternative. Liberal yet anti abortion and pro guns. Oh well.

So you're not a libertarian to begin with anyway? And Howard Stern is too conservative for you? :confused:

[william the wierd]

Barr is a gimmick to get past the 5% barrier against state funded (subsidized) primaries, ballot access and the rest of the paraphenalia needed to pick up the more libertarian members of the first major party to stumble. With primaries to weed out the terminally strange and raise name recognition then the 20% more or less libertarian voters should provide us with a base to build on. Anyone north of 50/50 on the world's smallest political quiz is a possible supporter and Barr qualifies as a party leader on that basis.